Embraced (short story)
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yurixhentai
desu
So I don't tend to come to this section much - I used to lurk and read it a lot but I haven't done so for a while. I don't think I've ever made a thread in here, so here goes!
This is intended to be a short story so I didn't want to give too much description of things. I've also tried to make the story ambiguous, so I hope people can pick up on that. It can be read in a couple of ways. I think the lack of detail and ambiguity suits this short story much better as it can leave more up to the imagination. I'd rather not give a set "this is what happened" answer, but rather discuss the possibilities.
Anyway:
This is intended to be a short story so I didn't want to give too much description of things. I've also tried to make the story ambiguous, so I hope people can pick up on that. It can be read in a couple of ways. I think the lack of detail and ambiguity suits this short story much better as it can leave more up to the imagination. I'd rather not give a set "this is what happened" answer, but rather discuss the possibilities.
Anyway:
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Xenon
FAKKU Writer
Hey, yxh (We have someone who frequents the section that I already call "Yuri"). Very happy to see something from you.
If you would like it, I can report to you all errors, typos, and grammatical fixes I can find just like I do when I judge contest entries here. I would be more than happy to provide that assistance for you if you want, even if it's a draft.
Just give me the signal and I'll plug it into Word and repost it here for you.
If you would like it, I can report to you all errors, typos, and grammatical fixes I can find just like I do when I judge contest entries here. I would be more than happy to provide that assistance for you if you want, even if it's a draft.
Just give me the signal and I'll plug it into Word and repost it here for you.
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yurixhentai
desu
Xenon wrote...
Hey, yxh (We have someone who frequents the section that I already call "Yuri"). Very happy to see something from you.If you would like it, I can report to you all errors, typos, and grammatical fixes I can find just like I do when I judge contest entries here. I would be more than happy to provide that assistance for you if you want, even if it's a draft.
Just give me the signal and I'll plug it into Word and repost it here for you.
If you have time that would be awesome! Thanks a lot! Anything to improve what I have is a big help, especially those kind of fixes.
I think I might start posting more often. I haven't written that much, though I do write a lot of Haiku and Waka poetry in English (some in Japanese). But I've got a few ideas in mind for some more short stories, so we'll see how it goes.
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Xenon
FAKKU Writer
I think that would be great, it would be amazing to see something like a poetry collection thread from you. You should go for it and post some of the stuff you like.
About this story in general, I think it's quite interesting. It's a bit hard to imagine what sort of time period this fictional world is, that there's a village and they don't really know what's beyond the next mountain, but still have the technology to have photographs and such things. That being said, I do enjoy things that reference the supernatural, like you did with the succubus. Although it was a bit of a disconnect with the story, what the succubus has to do with anything in the world and what awaits the two in the south, I'd be interested to read more about once you've developed it, and for that, I wish you luck. All my corrections will be posted in images below this for your benefit.
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About this story in general, I think it's quite interesting. It's a bit hard to imagine what sort of time period this fictional world is, that there's a village and they don't really know what's beyond the next mountain, but still have the technology to have photographs and such things. That being said, I do enjoy things that reference the supernatural, like you did with the succubus. Although it was a bit of a disconnect with the story, what the succubus has to do with anything in the world and what awaits the two in the south, I'd be interested to read more about once you've developed it, and for that, I wish you luck. All my corrections will be posted in images below this for your benefit.
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yurixhentai
desu
Xenon wrote...
I think that would be great, it would be amazing to see something like a poetry collection thread from you. You should go for it and post some of the stuff you like.About this story in general, I think it's quite interesting. It's a bit hard to imagine what sort of time period this fictional world is, that there's a village and they don't really know what's beyond the next mountain, but still have the technology to have photographs and such things. That being said, I do enjoy things that reference the supernatural, like you did with the succubus. Although it was a bit of a disconnect with the story, what the succubus has to do with anything in the world and what awaits the two in the south, I'd be interested to read more about once you've developed it, and for that, I wish you luck. All my corrections will be posted in images below this for your benefit.
Disclaimer: For those unaware, the Track Changes mode in Word 2007+ provides an efficient and handy method to review written material. The black vertical line to the left of the written lines indicate a change edited in the corresponding horizontal written line. All font that is red are direct changes to the original text. Words and letters that have strike-through are suggested removal and those with an underline are suggested additions. Comments, as you can see, highlight an appropriate area and are placed in the right-hand margin followed by a dotted line corresponding to the correct comment.
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Thank you so much for the corrections, I will go through and edit them in. Regarding the tense, I was indeed having trouble with it. I wasn't sure if I wanted to set it in the past or in the present and I think I ended combining the two due to the different possible routes I could have taken the story. If I leave the story as it is I think I would like it to be in the present tense.
I also agree with the disconnect regarding the time period. The initial image I had in mind was some kind of feudal society and was possibly thinking of including a king and tax collector (I was going to hint at the village being due a visit from the tax collector, and that would have implied a possible reason as to why the village was destroyed). But I decided not to go with those two things. But the image I still want to keep is that they are in the past with things like swords, bows, the local blacksmith etc. Maybe instead of a photograph it could be a painting of the family, or maybe he simply thinks of his family.
I imagine the story to probably low fantasy rather than high fantasy, since the existence of a succubus is probably not a normal thing in this world. Although, from the ambiguities it could be. For exmaple:
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As for a poetry thread, I might make one!
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I'm having trouble deciding what I think about this. It is up my alley. I like the supernatural, I like fairy tale-esque stories, but I think this could have been executed better, particularly in the ending. I'm not quite sure what happened there.
A couple of other things in no particular order of importance:
Given what I know about the succubus and her actions, I have a hard time imagining her awakening with a fright. It feels out of character.
There are instances where you could use less words to describe the actions the characters are performing, such as:
You could replace "She then started to move," with, "She moved." Or really, you could delete that part entirely and start with, "She placed . . ."
A couple of other things in no particular order of importance:
He then proceeded to grab the hand of his succubus who awoke with a fright . . .
Given what I know about the succubus and her actions, I have a hard time imagining her awakening with a fright. It feels out of character.
There are instances where you could use less words to describe the actions the characters are performing, such as:
She then started to move: she placed her hands on the ground and stood up.
You could replace "She then started to move," with, "She moved." Or really, you could delete that part entirely and start with, "She placed . . ."
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yurixhentai
desu
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
I'm having trouble deciding what I think about this. It is up my alley. I like the supernatural, I like fairy tale-esque stories, but I think this could have been executed better, particularly in the ending. I'm not quite sure what happened there.A couple of other things in no particular order of importance:
He then proceeded to grab the hand of his succubus who awoke with a fright . . .
Given what I know about the succubus and her actions, I have a hard time imagining her awakening with a fright. It feels out of character.
Thanks for the reply!
I'll try to explain what I meant with my choice of having her waking with a "fright".
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d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
There are instances where you could use less words to describe the actions the characters are performing, such as:She then started to move: she placed her hands on the ground and stood up.
You could replace "She then started to move," with, "She moved." Or really, you could delete that part entirely and start with, "She placed . . ."
I think I could agree with this. My aim was to have that scene play out slowly. It might have been better if I had said that "She then started her approach". I was trying to suggest an impending and inevitable event. But the use of less words might make it better, so I may consider just using "She placed..."
Again, thanks for the feedback. If there's anything else then please feel free to comment on it, or if you have any questions or other confusions then let me know.
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I'll try to explain what I meant with my choice of having her waking with a "fright".
I think your reasons behind the word choice and what the possibly happens in the last paragraph are solid, but I just can't bring my self to agree. I don't know what it is. But I just don't like it. I suppose it's just not for me.
Again, thanks for the feedback. If there's anything else then please feel free to comment on it, or if you have any questions or other confusions then let me know.
Will do.
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yurixhentai
desu
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
I'll try to explain what I meant with my choice of having her waking with a "fright".
I think your reasons behind the word choice and what the possibly happens in the last paragraph are solid, but I just can't bring my self to agree. I don't know what it is. But I just don't like it. I suppose it's just not for me.
That's fair enough, but could you elaborate? I'm interested in hearing how you would change it. I'm not asking you to rewrite the story, I'm just interested in your opinion. Do you think she should stick to being the dominant one? Or should she never show any kind of weakness (e.g. because she doesn't have any)? Should I even state in the story that she's
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d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
Again, thanks for the feedback. If there's anything else then please feel free to comment on it, or if you have any questions or other confusions then let me know.
Will do.
Thanks!
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yurixhentai wrote...
That's fair enough, but could you elaborate? I'm interested in hearing how you would change it. I'm not asking you to rewrite the story, I'm just interested in your opinion.The way I see it, what you essentially have is an extreme coming of age story. In the beginning, he doesn't know what it means for a man and a woman to be in an intimate relationship, and he'd rather play around than learn skills essential for survival like how to use a sword. And then that all goes to shit and he's forced to become a man who's prepared to go fight. When I look at like this, I get that from the ending, however it feels muddled to me, if that makes sense. I get the feeling that when this boy wakes up after having sex next to the corpses of his family, he has an incredibly cathartic realization of what his life's like now and what he has to do, but you don't do the best job that you could to show that.
I have no idea how I'd change the ending though. I'd have to think about that more.
Do you think she should stick to being the dominant one?
Not necessarily, but I think there should be a smoother transition. It shouldn't be the case that she's in charge the night before, and now the boy turned man is capable of giving her a fright, especially when you consider she isn't disturbed by the destruction of the village. You don't even have to make it to where he becomes the dominant one by the end of the story. You could just lay a hint or two to show that the dynamic of their relationship has begun to change.
Should I even state in the story that she's . . .
That brings up an interesting point that Xenon touched upon briefly. You could have done more to ease readers into the fact that she's a succubus, and the supernatural elements of the world in general. I'm not saying that you should, but you could.
It is a little jarring when at the very end, you call her a succubus with zero preamble.
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yurixhentai
desu
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
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Thank you for the feedback. I've taken into account your criticisms and also some opinions of other people that have read it.
After some thinking, I have decided that I too do not like that she awakes with "fright". I also agree that me having said she was a succubus was a bit too sudden. Or at least not in the right place. I have decided to eliminate saying that she is one explicitly, but you can still think of her as one. Also, I took into account Xenon's highlighting of the whole photograph thing. I have decided to eliminate the photograph. I also received a criticism from the missus that I should have a smoother transition into the boy going into manhood. I'm thinking of taking that into consideration.
For now, I have written a new ending. Whether or not I stick with it will depend on any other changes I decide to make, but this is an alternate ending I had in mind that I wanted to try writing, so would appreciate any feedback. It's quite different from the other ending and kind of wraps up an unanswered question in the story (i.e. what happens with the path to the northern village). It is to be read after the "Two corpses... first light" paragraph.
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Xenon
FAKKU Writer
yurixhentai wrote...
It was dark, very dark in the forest, so much so that the man could not even see is feet - or what was in front of him.Obviously should be "his."
I'm not certain about this new ending. Before it displayed that their decision to go south was entirely his innovation as a new man, but now it seems topsy-turvy, that he led her north (which she was initially fine with until he wanted to escape) only to feign interest and is now being led south by her (if she wanted to go south, why would she agree to go north?) as if he was a slave, even if he was completely dominated sexually at first. I don't think that's how you wanted it to seem necessarily. If you want him to grow, I say let him grow. Your wife though, bless her understanding offer of critique, I think has a point. He should grow, but in steps at a time. The whole concept of "coming of age" when you think about it, was a social construct as if there was a finite time when one stopped being a boy and suddenly became a man. I don't know about a lot of you, but I'm fairly certain it's a longer process than that and everyone is different. I say if you want to write this boy/man more realistically, it helps to become him and see yourself as him. What would you do in these situations? Find those answers and write out those feelings. That is how I find the inspiration and drive for the way my characters act, personally, but I'm certain you'll find your method eventually.
Keep on with it, I'm looking forward to a continuation.
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yurixhentai
desu
Xenon wrote...
yurixhentai wrote...
It was dark, very dark in the forest, so much so that the man could not even see is feet - or what was in front of him.Obviously should be "his."
I'm not certain about this new ending. Before it displayed that their decision to go south was entirely his innovation as a new man, but now it seems topsy-turvy, that he led her north (which she was initially fine with until he wanted to escape) only to feign interest and is now being led south by her (if she wanted to go south, why would she agree to go north?) as if he was a slave, even if he was completely dominated sexually at first. I don't think that's how you wanted it to seem necessarily. If you want him to grow, I say let him grow. Your wife though, bless her understanding offer of critique, I think has a point. He should grow, but in steps at a time. The whole concept of "coming of age" when you think about it, was a social construct as if there was a finite time when one stopped being a boy and suddenly became a man. I don't know about a lot of you, but I'm fairly certain it's a longer process than that and everyone is different. I say if you want to write this boy/man more realistically, it helps to become him and see yourself as him. What would you do in these situations? Find those answers and write out those feelings. That is how I find the inspiration and drive for the way my characters act, personally, but I'm certain you'll find your method eventually.
Keep on with it, I'm looking forward to a continuation.
Thanks for the reply! (and the correction!)
Indeed, one way I wanted to take the story was down a kind of coming of age path. The new ending was just another route I had in mind that in the end tells a completely different story. Although, I must not have told it very well as your interpretation was not the message I was trying to convey. I believe the girl knew the path would no longer be there, hence the "slight grin". The man, having ultimately chosen his path (one with the girl/south) was hoping he could take her to the north where they could live successfully. He did indeed smile when he saw how beautiful she was when she was asleep, so he was hoping it could work. However, that is a different path, and not the one he had chosen, that's why the connecting path disappeared. The girl knew this and just cruelly played along, knowing that he would still be hers. Also, the line "the man could not even see his feet - or what was in front of him" is meant to echo something from earlier in the story: when he was a boy and was climbing the southern mountain for the first time he could not see his feet for the darkness. This is happening again at the end, except he also cannot see what is in front of him; literally he cannot see for the mist and darkness, and metaphorically because he does not know which life path he is going down. He cannot see his future, or refuses to see it.
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yurixhentai
desu
I am still going to rewrite the coming of age ending, so don't worry! Should have that up soon.
I wish I could edit the thread title as I have come up with a name. Pretty frustrating. Maybe I'll re-post the story in a new thread once it's 100% complete. This could be a work-in-progress thread.
I wish I could edit the thread title as I have come up with a name. Pretty frustrating. Maybe I'll re-post the story in a new thread once it's 100% complete. This could be a work-in-progress thread.
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I finally got around to catching up on this topic.
Being able to get people to feel what you want to is an important skill to have, but at the same time, it's possible to control everyone's feelings. There's always going to be someone who interprets something differently, and I think that's perfectly alright because not everyone is going to be impacted in the same way by the same story.
Having said that, my initial thought on the second draft of the ending was essentially the same as Xenon's, and if you are absolutely averse to it, and you don't want people to get that out of your story, then yeah, I think it needs changes, which you do in the latest draft. I think it does a much better job of conveying what you want it to.
I also like how you bring back that thing from the beginning of the story where the villagers think the path between villages will vanish.
I like it better than the original ending, but I do have some issues with it, like the succubus wearing a shirt. She didn't care much about wearing clothes before. Why would she decide to put a shirt on now?
You still have that strange thing going on where it could be a time jump, but it might not be. If you're cool with that, leave it in by all means, but I still don't like it.
Getting more technical, you end the first paragraph with him taking her by the hand, and you begin the second paragraph by pointing out that he's holding her hand. That's a bit redundant.
At the bottom of the page, there's a feint pink bar with edit and delete options on the left. Hit edit, and you can change the thread title from there.
yurixhentai wrote...
Although, I must not have told it very well as your interpretation was not the message I was trying to convey.Being able to get people to feel what you want to is an important skill to have, but at the same time, it's possible to control everyone's feelings. There's always going to be someone who interprets something differently, and I think that's perfectly alright because not everyone is going to be impacted in the same way by the same story.
Having said that, my initial thought on the second draft of the ending was essentially the same as Xenon's, and if you are absolutely averse to it, and you don't want people to get that out of your story, then yeah, I think it needs changes, which you do in the latest draft. I think it does a much better job of conveying what you want it to.
I also like how you bring back that thing from the beginning of the story where the villagers think the path between villages will vanish.
I like it better than the original ending, but I do have some issues with it, like the succubus wearing a shirt. She didn't care much about wearing clothes before. Why would she decide to put a shirt on now?
You still have that strange thing going on where it could be a time jump, but it might not be. If you're cool with that, leave it in by all means, but I still don't like it.
Getting more technical, you end the first paragraph with him taking her by the hand, and you begin the second paragraph by pointing out that he's holding her hand. That's a bit redundant.
I wish I could edit the thread title as I have come up with a name. Pretty frustrating. Maybe I'll re-post the story in a new thread once it's 100% complete. This could be a work-in-progress thread.
At the bottom of the page, there's a feint pink bar with edit and delete options on the left. Hit edit, and you can change the thread title from there.
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yurixhentai
desu
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
Being able to get people to feel what you want to is an important skill to have, but at the same time, it's possible to control everyone's feelings. There's always going to be someone who interprets something differently, and I think that's perfectly alright because not everyone is going to be impacted in the same way by the same story.For sure, I definitely love hearing different interpretations, and I tried writing it in a way hoping for that. Although it can be disappointing when little things are missed, so I guess I need to highlight them a bit better. But I don't like having to write with everything laid out. With most literature I've studied you really have to dig for significance, and it can also be fun interpreting significance in your own way. It's obviously important to remember that nothing in a text is an accident; everything is deliberate, and I tried to make sure I showed that.
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
Having said that, my initial thought on the second draft of the ending was essentially the same as Xenon's, and if you are absolutely averse to it, and you don't want people to get that out of your story, then yeah, I think it needs changes, which you do in the latest draft. I think it does a much better job of conveying what you want it to.I also like how you bring back that thing from the beginning of the story where the villagers think the path between villages will vanish.
I like it better than the original ending, but I do have some issues with it, like the succubus wearing a shirt. She didn't care much about wearing clothes before. Why would she decide to put a shirt on now?
Thanks!
As for the shirt, that was more a thing for the alternate ending but I'd like to work it into the main story better. It's something I don't think I will remove. It's also something I don't think I will detail in an explanation but leave it up to other people to interpret/find significance as they wish. If they don't have any then that's fine, it can be dismissed. I will say though that it's a man's shirt in the boy's house, so it's clearly hinted as being the father's, or even another soldier's. Depending on how it's read there is a reason it's there and significance in her wearing it.
I don't know if you've read anything by Angela Carter or not, but when writing this story I realised it felt like something out of it her book of short stories "The Bloody Chamber". There is a story in there called The Snow Child where something like this happens in which the furs the Countess is wearing are put onto the naked girl. There is significance in it, and I have the same intentions. Again, everything is there for a reason.
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
You still have that strange thing going on where it could be a time jump, but it might not be. If you're cool with that, leave it in by all means, but I still don't like it.Getting more technical, you end the first paragraph with him taking her by the hand, and you begin the second paragraph by pointing out that he's holding her hand. That's a bit redundant.
Do you mean the part where it says "It had already been years the man thought..."? I think how I feel about that now is that years have passed since he has been with the girl, and the pronoun changed because that was the day he had become of age. I don't think the other wider interpretation I explained before works any more due to some changes, so think of it as a time leap not having happened in the sentence. Instead, it was just because he became of age that day.
I cleared up the repetition, I didn't realise I had done that so thanks for the spot!
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
At the bottom of the page, there's a feint pink bar with edit and delete options on the left. Hit edit, and you can change the thread title from there.Thanks, I think I had forgotten about that.
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yurixhentai
desu
I have put up the full story into the opening post with the corrections, edits and changes. I'd like to thank Xenon and d(^_^)(^_^)d for their corrections and feedback that have made the story so much better.
I would say it is now finished, but if there are any mistakes (including grammatical) then do let me know. And if I decide to change anything then I will make an update. Enjoy!
I would say it is now finished, but if there are any mistakes (including grammatical) then do let me know. And if I decide to change anything then I will make an update. Enjoy!
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Xenon
FAKKU Writer
My opinions on this new ending align with d's in that I like it more, but that may just be because it is more direct. If he wanted to go north because he believed they could live there peacefully, why could they not live in the south peacefully? Is that where the destructive armies come from? The story needs to do better at mentioning it beforehand, unless it was something I missed. Nonetheless, here are the fixes I noticed in this new ending:
When he came of age.
Honestly, the middle section isn't necessary because it's implied if he pulls her along that he's in front. Also, this is the beginning of a new paragraph, so the subject must be specified. "The man began to walk north..."
Widened is more appropriate with past tense.
yurixhentai wrote...
The boy then remembered that today was the day when came of age.When he came of age.
yurixhentai wrote...
He began to walk north holding the girl's hand, he ahead of the girl and she behind, pulling her along.Honestly, the middle section isn't necessary because it's implied if he pulls her along that he's in front. Also, this is the beginning of a new paragraph, so the subject must be specified. "The man began to walk north..."
yurixhentai wrote...
Her face turned to surprise, her eyes widening at this unexpected reaction.Widened is more appropriate with past tense.