Someone doesn't understand Japanese drinking culture.
Also, I printed this particular story out with my printer just so I could smile as I tossed every page individually into my fireplace. So satisfying. :D
Oh, and btw: what I just talked about isn't something that's made mention to people from outside Japan. I, thankfully, learned from someone who came from there because she wanted to escape her own culture, and her western husband who explained the intricacies of it to me with better clarity.
Put lightly, Japanese culture is morbidly complex and revolves around a lot of don't-ask-don't-tell/what-happens-in-Vegas type behavior. The sad part about this relationship is that the boyfriend can't culturally ask about what happened at this party unless the girlfriend opens up about what happened or someone does something drastic like sending him videos or pictures of the incident. He culturally MUST accept that ANYTHING could have happened, or else he's the bad guy. Meanwhile, women who cheat and are broken up with because of their cheating are often viewed as the blameless party by their peers, especially if they can concoct a reason for their cheating. In Japan, it's often said that, if a woman cheats, it's the man's fault because he was inadequate in some fashion.
That said, cheating only becomes a serious problem once people are married, wherein people who do cheat can actually go to prison for breaking their marriage contracts. It doesn't happen as much as one might think, but it happens.
tl;dr Japanese relationships on a cultural level require extreme levels of resolve and trust and you're in the wrong if you react in a manner that can be interpreted as jealousy.
tl;dr Japanese culture is a complicated mess designed to work against you in favor of shitty people.
Japanese drinking culture forbids you from refusing drinks poured/opened for you by others unless you are leaving the party entirely. It's considered a serious offense if you outright refuse someone's "good will" in this case and can cause a lot of other social problems, hence why she got so drunk. She even stated at the beginning that there was no going back now because she accepted their party invitation.
They don't just stack the drinks. They just keep pouring after you finish the drink. Every time a drink is finished, it's filled. It's Japanese cultural behavior. Younger generations tend to push others into finishing a drink, though, so it becomes a game of peer pressure and drink watching vs. alcohol content and personal constitution.
The biggest problem with her situation is that she likely went with a male acquaintance, which gets into even more complexities with Japanese cultural behavior surrounding parties. Like, if a guy invites you to a party, as a guy, and you deflect saying you have stuff to do or you generally have things to do, it's not an automatic that your S/O isn't going, either. She has to make the conscious decision to deflect. Sadly, this can be interpreted as clingy-ness on either side of the couple's relationship by others, which then bogs down into even more cultural stigmas.
Surely in that case one would just drink slowly enough that they don't finish their drink until they can handle another? Or is it common practice to just stack up a bunch of drinks in front of someone and expect them to drink them all?
It's common sense we're talking about here.
Regardless of what culture you are, I'm sure getting drunk to the point of losing your mind and let yourself get gangbanged is not considered normal. If "culture" is something you must follow no matter what might happen to you next, then ok. :)
That's very informative, thank you for that. I guess I'll have to second guess living down there then. Especially if I plan on going to social events to make new acquaintences and friends. I don't even do much of that down here in the states since I don't drink alcohol at all. Never have except that one time on my 8th bday, but that's another story...
I see, but if that's how it is, she could have either refused from the start (which she didn't), or stopped when she feels like she couldn't chug one more down (which she should have). Aren't there plenty of legit reasons to leave, having a headache, maybe? People can't force you to drink when you aren't feeling well, that would be messed up. It's not like we haven't seen mangas where someone leaves a drinking party due to personal reasons and it doesn't seem rude or unacceptable to others for me.
Additionally, they are college students, which I assume is much more open-minded, and would not use it against each other later on. Anyway, it's still a good fap, what I wanted to say is just that situation was totally avoidable.
Genryuusai, it's not that simple. We're talking levels of offense equivalent to burning bridges and destroying working relationships. It doesn't help that we don't know the full context of the party and why it was happening, but the headache excuse would only work if someone said something to offend you and you didn't want to be in their company anymore.
Like I said, the cultural dynamics surrounding this kind of a social situation are infinitely more complicated than they appear. This situation was a lot more unavoidable than you might think once she conceded to going. Also, it's pretty clear that these dudes wouldn't have let a mere headache get in the way of their plans, anyways. They set the story up in just that fashion so that it would be a perfect storm.
Can anyone explain the final panel? Is the boyfriend sending a picture that means he's coming to get her or that he is leaving her? That's the impressions I got from it, though a text message of a picture of a bike is pretty ambiguous to me.
It's not a text, Shiho's boyfriend is calling her. At the very bottom of the phone screen there's a button that says "Answer", but it's cut off; the artist basically drew it "out of bounds". I'm updating the chapter so that you can see like a third of the button, which is about all you can get without cutting off the top of Shiho's head.
This is the type of thing that would probably get fixed if/when Aiue Oka releases a tankoubon.
The mindbreak was great and so was the art but at the back of my mind throughout the whole thing i was thinking to myself "why would some guys plan a trip in a way in which 4 of them end up sharing a girl?" Like if it was a party and stuff, sure. But a trip? something you have to plan with details, lodging etc? You are suposed to plan it in a way in which each dude gets to take a drunk girl to his room....
Well, coming from the interview...certainly seems like they got that "despair" just right.
Her being forced to watch the recordings of a version of herself that has thrown away all her inhibitions, her principles, her devotion to her bf and their relationship, and any and all significance that went with all that, to shamelessly partake in unscrupulous, carnal debauchery...put it well over-the-top. For her, I imagine it also really drives in the question of the validity of her will. I could really feel her being rent apart by questions of significance regarding everything she had, everything she’s done, what’s been done to her, and everything that’s currently taking place. It’s like she’s being crushed underneath the weight of this fate that has been "thrust" upon her and the force of a revelation she’s not prepared for. Funny (or sadder) thing is, it could be that even drunk, if the bf was there with her—her affections for him may have turned her base copulatory instincts in a direction that honored her commitment she made with him (without/besides him intervening and protecting her as he most definitely should as a good bf, a general person who gives a fuck about theirs, and somebody who understands the effects of being drunk). But…that’s not what happened.
Well...I guess that description isn't exactly wrong.
Also, I think releases like this would make guys more paranoid about letting their girlfriends go on trips without them...
Sure, her bf told her to enjoy the trip but I don't think he meant "Drink yourself silly around 10+ guys at an all night party"...
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Also, I printed this particular story out with my printer just so I could smile as I tossed every page individually into my fireplace. So satisfying. :D
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That said, cheating only becomes a serious problem once people are married, wherein people who do cheat can actually go to prison for breaking their marriage contracts. It doesn't happen as much as one might think, but it happens.
tl;dr Japanese relationships on a cultural level require extreme levels of resolve and trust and you're in the wrong if you react in a manner that can be interpreted as jealousy.
tl;dr Japanese culture is a complicated mess designed to work against you in favor of shitty people.
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The biggest problem with her situation is that she likely went with a male acquaintance, which gets into even more complexities with Japanese cultural behavior surrounding parties. Like, if a guy invites you to a party, as a guy, and you deflect saying you have stuff to do or you generally have things to do, it's not an automatic that your S/O isn't going, either. She has to make the conscious decision to deflect. Sadly, this can be interpreted as clingy-ness on either side of the couple's relationship by others, which then bogs down into even more cultural stigmas.
*The more you know.*
Regardless of what culture you are, I'm sure getting drunk to the point of losing your mind and let yourself get gangbanged is not considered normal. If "culture" is something you must follow no matter what might happen to you next, then ok. :)
Additionally, they are college students, which I assume is much more open-minded, and would not use it against each other later on. Anyway, it's still a good fap, what I wanted to say is just that situation was totally avoidable.
Like I said, the cultural dynamics surrounding this kind of a social situation are infinitely more complicated than they appear. This situation was a lot more unavoidable than you might think once she conceded to going. Also, it's pretty clear that these dudes wouldn't have let a mere headache get in the way of their plans, anyways. They set the story up in just that fashion so that it would be a perfect storm.