Antw0n wrote...
Flaser wrote...
VampyBunny wrote...
I dont know about SEED and Destiny since im not really a fan of it. I only like them because of the cool MS' but for 00 only two Zakus? I really think that 00 was great from season 1 to season 2, also the movie although the movie was a bit...uhh... but still it was awesome!
I also liked AGE, at first I thought it wont work but it turned out pretty great but not that great.
The characters were cliche,
the Gundams invincible...
HURR MY GUNDAM GETS COLORFUL THAT MAKES IT INVINCIBLE DURRRRRRR
Besides the plot-armor I love the Gundams in SEED. Some of the best ever.
It's SEED's story and characters that make it shit.
Antw0n I was talking about Gundam 00.
At least SEED had a well defined plebothium "powering" the special ability with caveats and stuff, a'la Evangelion.
Frankly, I liked SEED, it's not as bad a show as some people make it out to be. It had OK characters, decent plot and initial mecha designs (frankly the Strike was a nice concept with its mission packages) were actually inspired. The whole super-angular aesthetic was also a nice change.
The bad? It didn't have a character comparable to Char Aznable, who was a complex character with varied flaws and motivations. Beside the much maligned Flay Alster most of them were too much of goody too shoes. The other problem was the MC was developed too much into a Jesus figure. Frankly, as long as he had flaws, even Kira "Jesus" Yamato could be entertaining to watch.
SEED Destiny? It's a mess. The plot doesn't hold together, the director just *couldn't* do characterization and finally they side-lined their whole main cast to pander to the fans of the old show. What's infuriating is how much better the whole debacle could've been... if there was a talented director in the seat, like they had for the ONA Stargazer (we learned more about the MC in a single episode and had a better sympathy for him, even though he was a brainwashed zealot then we had during the entire run of Destiny for Shin Asuka).
Those are the story problems. Just like the original Gundam, both SEED, Destiny and later on 00 suffer from the design by committee problems of focusing on merchandising, that is toy like mobile suit designs (as model kit sales are the *only* measure how Sunrise judges its own shows) and later own moe character designs when the otaku merchandising really took off. (00 is as oddity, as for once they try to change tactics when they realized they had a lot of female fans).