NasuVerse (Tsukihime and Fate) VS To Aru Index-Verse

Who would win in an fight and why?

Define who.

inb4 Awakened Touma and Awakened Accelerator.

Well, The Twenty-seven Dead Apostle Ancestors are a force to be reckoned with :P

All of them.



Awakend Touma? I haven't followed Index in a few months so you'll have to tell me about him. Though i am well aware of Awakened Accelerator and Fiamma of the Right

Index-verse because Fiamma's power was described as playing Rock-Paper-Scissors and Fiamma could just throw "win". That and the chairman of Academy City, upside down tank guy, is pretty scary.

Hmmm, in my opinion, I think Legendary Souls cant fight againts Saints, Man-made Angel/Kazakiri, and that specific existence hiding in Touma's right arm... even a god like tamamo-no-mae wont stand a chance(<--fate/extra)

what no Kara no Kyoukai , Ryougi Shiki is enough.

Seconded.
She can kill anything in a single blow.
Which reminds me, if she uses a rifle, then aims at the target's point of death, would that also be an instant death as well?

Won't stand a chance against Awakened Accelerator.

insta-kills wins... though the actual battle maybe a little short... in battle scene 90% talk 9% readying stances and 1% actual attack(s)...

lol I just favor Touma's Visual Novel Luck Skill

Has to be a sharp object. I'm not sure if a point of a bullet is enough.

Just to clarify: Angel Accelerator doesn't cause instant death with his wings. They just move at crazy fast speeds and kills any threat.

I would think the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception (MEoDP) kind of an end all as it shows the death of every object, person, or place. Especially if we consider the two MEoDP user's dot seeing abilities.



So two people exist in Nasuverse who can defeat any living thing, Tohno Shiki and Ryougi Shiki. Ryougi Shiki having the true MEoDP can kill anything including non-living objects. I doubt Tohno could get through Accelerator's shield but I'm pretty sure Ryougi could.

If that isn't enough, Ryougi Shiki still has everything trumped:



/thread.

Reading this thread makes me cringe.

...even if you don't pull all kinds of reality warping shit out, you guys forget that the Nasuverse has a number of guys/girls with powers that reverse causality. Heck, IMHO even Bazette could kill accelerator and someone like Kuzuki could beat up Touma.

Let's not forget that Servants can dodge bullets, (heck so can vampires and great deal of powered up entities in Nasuverse), move *faster* than bullets and normal (i.e. non-magical) stuff can't really hurt them.

So like, I've been reading around type moon wiki and ...


Type Mercury or ORT

"It does not have Gaia's concept of death, which makes it immune to abilities such as Mystic Eyes of Death Perception."



Also look up for Type Venus, not sure what her abilities are though

If they can get make contact with Accelerator.

Yes, Touma could be easily beaten to a pulp by psychical attacks, but there are other characters that can beat Bazette and Kuzuki.

And there's also Saints, God's Right Seat, and other Level 5.

Nope. Bazette's attack works by reversing causality, striking before her opponents attack even starts:

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Fragarach

"It warps causality to always strike the opponent in the heart with a needle thin concentrated blast right before they unleash their ultimate attack. The condition for its use is that the opponent must use their strongest attack, and Fragarach must be used directly after the enemy's strike. It would normally be that Fragarach would kill the enemy, and the opponent's attack would also simultaneously destroy Bazett. Despite being released afterward and no matter how fast the opposing attack is cast, Fragarach always strikes first by changing the flow of time to rewrite events so that it makes it own strike against the enemy before the opposing move was ever made in the course of the world."

The Nasuverse is full of mindbending hacks like this. In this case, Bazette doesn't need to be in contact with her opponent. (Read the interim patch of Fate/Hollow Ataraxia).

My problem with this is, "What if her opponent never used/needed his/her strongest attack to defeat her?"
Basically if it was just a fight with enforcement magic.

Accelerator - He only needs to touch her to screw her up. It's possible, since he can fly at high speeds.
Acqua of the back - can just use his Ascalon while being powered by his Stigma
Vento of the front - Can just use her Divine Punishment to Knockout possibly anyone who thinks negatively about her.
Kanzaki Kaori - Amaskusa Sword fighting Style + Stigma, is enough to defeat her.

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Honestly, the lack of "strongest attacks" definition in To Aru Index, is what makes this thread, not fun. Just like a previous thread about Darth Vader Vs Saber, where people just post in "Force Choke FTW" lol

Actually she attacks the point of origin instead of point of death , she can even kill immortals like Arcueid that Tohno/nanaya can't kill.

Bezette couldn't beat Angel Accelerator. As Kaimax stated, all he would have to do was move up to her (which is at super human speeds) and touch her. Not his strongest attack I would assume.



I think the wings of Angel Accelerator are supposed to be moving faster than bullets.

The only reason I bring up Ryougi is because it's the end to this thread. I'm sure there are reality marble users (another reality warper) from Nasuverse who could defeat people from Index. Let's not forget the Types who are considered gods in Nasuverse who could just stomp bitches.

Nasuverse is known for having characters holding crazy hacks ace in the hole in their pockets. Not many other universes could probably beat it lol.

P.S.

Holy shit Kaimax, 10,000 posts. You've been busy while I was gone. :P