what anime or manga that people rave about...

Naruto
Bleach (okay not true I liked it at first...)
Death Note

there a lot of hate for the mainstream

I really liked Code Geass...

Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, blahblahblah. Basically anything that drags on forever

Also, like Kgods, I can't get into Fullmetal Alchemist for some reason.

Back in high school, everyone I hung out with was way into Negima, and I was too for a bit, until the series changed its direction. Then I dropped it like a hot potato.

Naruto starts out shallow, generally unlike able characters, no real story line for more than 100 episodes, and basically jumped the shark with all the fillers

What the fuck are you on? :|

And on topic, Katekyo Hitman Reborn. It doesn't matter how good the series is now if you have to crawl through a mountain of shitty chapters and episodes to get there.

well now where to start...

I like Bleach and Naruto, but those damn never ending fillers!!! so I quit watching...
Zero no Tsukaima and Toradora, I'm sure I've mentioned before how much I hate Tsunderes, and Louise and Taiga are two main examples on why I HATE them, nothing would give me more pleasure than watching them both die nice and slowly... sorry thats how I feel...
K-On!, oh K-On! you started off so great, but did it really need a second season? Now I cant help but hate 80-90% of the characters.
Rosario+Vampire and To Love-Ru... I like the mangas, but I absolutely DETEST the anime. GOD DAMN WHO WROTE THAT CRAP!?!?!?! AND THEN THEY GIVE R+V A 2ND SEASON!?!?!?! and I thought season 1 was bad... and now... To Love-Ru is getting a second season... [size=5](Which I will be watching... god I hate myself...)[/h]

There's allot more, but I'll post them later...

a lot of drugs just to watch the first ep and not kill myself in the process

Full Metal Alchemist. I remember saying the title sounded cool, but after 10 episodes it got bloody boring. Same for KHR, that little dude with the fucked up voice pisses me off.

Also, I think Naruto is overrated, Bleach is fine(if it's not fillers), and One Piece was only interesting at the start.

I don't really see how Bleach and Naruto are overrated since everyone is always complaining about them. Lol. You can just skip the filler arcs too, it's what I do and it's why I still watch Bleach and am thinking about finishing Naruto. As for FMA, yes I could never get into FMA either. Then came Brotherhood and I don't know, for some reason I just couldn't stop watching. I want to get into One Piece, but at this point, fuck, it's so far in. DeathNote manga was way better in my opinion. Anime wasn't that great. As for another overrated anime that I don't like, I guess I'll go with Haruhi. I just do not want to watch that at all and after hearing about that Endless Eight bullshit, I don't plan to ever.

Naruto is meh. Bleach is worse. I gotta say, K-ON is pretty over rated too. Other than that no complaints.

i damn near had a fist fight with someone when i said that... i think some people like it just because of the hot doujin action here.

I will admit, there are some pretty hot K-ON dojins. All its good for really.