A new rule to the VN uploads section.
Should we allow officially licensed VNs in the uploads?
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I voted for "NO"
Please don't use excuse such as "But innumerable other website do it?!"
That's what jerks said when they cut in queue, disobey the traffic light, litter the floor, smoke in public place, etc. Their excuse is "But many other people do it too!"
Please don't use excuse such as "But innumerable other website do it?!"
That's what jerks said when they cut in queue, disobey the traffic light, litter the floor, smoke in public place, etc. Their excuse is "But many other people do it too!"
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I see the merits of both sides, but honestly, the Koihime Musou experiment basically showed how much this matters to the companies that translate the games. It doesn't seem like that helped drive sales for them at all, really. What I would suggest, however, is making the recommendation that you put a link to the official website into a hard rule.
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I voted yes for the simple fact that i could still download these games on piratebay or torrents. Also what happened to the video section?
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I vote yes.
This pretty much sums it up:
Personally, I wish I had the money to buy most of what I've read/played, but that's not really going to happen anytime soon. Will definitely get ef once it's released in English, though, whether it's uploaded here or not. Even though I've already played through NNL's original fan release.
Your plan in all honestly kills the industry even further. I'm not spending a $30 on a VN I might not like. The world isn't "buy and try" anymore its "try and buy".
Besides, if someone can't get it here then they will just go elsewhere to find it. Not helping the situation at all.
Side note: Sitting next to my copy of fate/stay night that I downloaded first.
This pretty much sums it up:
luinthoron wrote...
I'm going to vote yes. It was tried with Koihime Musou, and even the extra incentive of getting a voice patch if there are enough sales did not help them reach the goal. People who'd buy the VN will still do so even if it is uploaded here, maybe even more likely since they've actually had the chance to try it. People who don't want to buy it will find another place for downloading it anyway.Personally, I wish I had the money to buy most of what I've read/played, but that's not really going to happen anytime soon. Will definitely get ef once it's released in English, though, whether it's uploaded here or not. Even though I've already played through NNL's original fan release.
Sindalf wrote...
You seem to assume that a download means a lost sale. You also seem to assume that the person who downloaded the VN wouldn't go and buy it later because they liked it enough. Some people do this some people don't. Most if not all people in this day and age on the internet will just skip over something if they can't try it out first for free and then determine if it was worth their money. Your plan in all honestly kills the industry even further. I'm not spending a $30 on a VN I might not like. The world isn't "buy and try" anymore its "try and buy".
Besides, if someone can't get it here then they will just go elsewhere to find it. Not helping the situation at all.
Side note: Sitting next to my copy of fate/stay night that I downloaded first.
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Im going to vote yes. Although a bit selfish my reason is.(So sayeth yoda.) I do love these english games, but I feel if we could even help by this forum a little would be enough. Although saddening, I would atleast like to get :::INFORMATION::: on the new english Vn's coming out by these companies. The only reason Im able to play things like kira kira, conquering the queen and other is because of this forum. If I dont get mah updates I could be missing out on a lot! So maybe making a thread about info on the new stuff coming out would be nice if you decide to ban em. Kinda funny and sad though, that even if you ban it here, there are tons upon bunds of places you can get these games anyways. So I vote yes on this forum :D.
Edit: SHiiiiiIIiIt Meant to vote no. Fck my reading abilities.
Edit: SHiiiiiIIiIt Meant to vote no. Fck my reading abilities.
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Gravity cat
the adequately amused
I'm torn between saying yes or no. Officially licensed means it's almost guaranteed to be good quality, but if it's fan-made and free, then the quality could go down.
Plus there's the issue of officially licensed losing money.
Plus there's the issue of officially licensed losing money.
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Im going to vote yes.
With the prices they charge for their translated games which are REALLY high in comparison to alot of other forms of media, not knowing if it is going to be any good or not makes me not wan't to buy it.
Plus i would only really be intrested in buying a Physical copy which will cost LOADS to get it to the uk.
If they had a place that sold physical copies from like europe then i would buy quite a few vns that are out.
With the prices they charge for their translated games which are REALLY high in comparison to alot of other forms of media, not knowing if it is going to be any good or not makes me not wan't to buy it.
Plus i would only really be intrested in buying a Physical copy which will cost LOADS to get it to the uk.
If they had a place that sold physical copies from like europe then i would buy quite a few vns that are out.
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tswarthog
The Iconoclast
I voted yes on this one.
I love having the physical copy of games, music, ext however the prices for visual novels are just on another planet for no real reason. I would gladly pay for the actual product if this was not the fact. Because of this, if fakku were to stop uploading licensed products It will only take me an extra 5 seconds to find another means of obtaining what I want.
I love having the physical copy of games, music, ext however the prices for visual novels are just on another planet for no real reason. I would gladly pay for the actual product if this was not the fact. Because of this, if fakku were to stop uploading licensed products It will only take me an extra 5 seconds to find another means of obtaining what I want.
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I Voted yes!
I think banning legal VN won't benefit both sides, FAKKU will lose many traffic, and the company profit won't increase that much.
I love to get a hard copy myself if I love the game, and since it's hard to find a good games based on the review, the only option left is to try it first, and this is where FAKKU came in!
BTW I have Yume miru, and Ever 17 since I LOVE IT!!
I think banning legal VN won't benefit both sides, FAKKU will lose many traffic, and the company profit won't increase that much.
I love to get a hard copy myself if I love the game, and since it's hard to find a good games based on the review, the only option left is to try it first, and this is where FAKKU came in!
BTW I have Yume miru, and Ever 17 since I LOVE IT!!
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I vote yes.
I understand the reason for not wanting officially translated VN, but if only at Fakku it won't get even close to the desirable outcome, because people just simply going to find another forum, and banning certain games from being uploaded is kinda defeats the whole purpose of having user uploads section, in my opinion anyway.
I understand the reason for not wanting officially translated VN, but if only at Fakku it won't get even close to the desirable outcome, because people just simply going to find another forum, and banning certain games from being uploaded is kinda defeats the whole purpose of having user uploads section, in my opinion anyway.
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Maybe we could add some advertisements.
1. Downloaders have to click the advertisement links before downloading. (If not, the download links won't appear.)
2. All the money got from the ads will goes to fakku and be shown in the web. (real time)
3. Any of the chosen/appointed moderator will go and buy their game using this fund.
4. The game bought will be auctioned by fakkuers and the money got from auction will go back to the fund.
This way we will not lose money, just a bit of our time while they can get some little more money.
1. Downloaders have to click the advertisement links before downloading. (If not, the download links won't appear.)
2. All the money got from the ads will goes to fakku and be shown in the web. (real time)
3. Any of the chosen/appointed moderator will go and buy their game using this fund.
4. The game bought will be auctioned by fakkuers and the money got from auction will go back to the fund.
This way we will not lose money, just a bit of our time while they can get some little more money.
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YES and NO
Yes. Honestly I buy something if I know it's good and either I already played/watched everything. so without this VN section..... actually the whole pirate thing.. I wouldn't even know these games/shows exist.
No.. because what if these companies who creates these VN does a simul-release from the japanese releases with English subtitles on it that would be perfect. I will give them their money and voting NO will be a great help to them. but if they're not planning to do it, then.. YES.
Yes. Honestly I buy something if I know it's good and either I already played/watched everything. so without this VN section..... actually the whole pirate thing.. I wouldn't even know these games/shows exist.
No.. because what if these companies who creates these VN does a simul-release from the japanese releases with English subtitles on it that would be perfect. I will give them their money and voting NO will be a great help to them. but if they're not planning to do it, then.. YES.
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What I find funny is I made mention of this when near when the site came online and was effectivly ignored and told it doesnt matter. Now that Fakku is selling it its an issue.
I just find it ironic.
I just find it ironic.
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Of course I same like the rest of you friends who want jastusa/mangagamers keep exist and produce VN without anything decrease.
I vote Yes!!, sorry but only Yes for this situation. Why? simple this method doesn't have any effect. let's say it's only have 1% chance people will go buys mangagamers games after official game being banned on fakku. Second if official VN get banned where people find topic or info about official VN game since no one wants uploads and created topic(www.vndb.org of course I know) what I really means it how we encounter VN prob(take example full screen raidy2) and there no guarantee mangagamer will not make VN voiceless(where voice patch info and voice patch download)
I think more effective if put a large advertisement mangagamers and Jast on fakku so people more familiar about them and can buy product from them, if possible give mangagamers or Jast free of charge.
or Second, put this words on fakku home/ first page "Please support mangagamers to translated new japanese game by buying their product" or use another words(nah sorry I'm not good with words).
or final, since Jacob start Store, why not add Official VN game to list for sale. since I working in someone store(real world), I think goods that Jacob sell to minimum (no offend sir, more exact salute for the idea to open the store).
This only the way my fool brain can think past 2 days,
it's not an order, it's not making fun of, It's just advice from little friend
sorry if I wrong...
I vote Yes!!, sorry but only Yes for this situation. Why? simple this method doesn't have any effect. let's say it's only have 1% chance people will go buys mangagamers games after official game being banned on fakku. Second if official VN get banned where people find topic or info about official VN game since no one wants uploads and created topic(www.vndb.org of course I know) what I really means it how we encounter VN prob(take example full screen raidy2) and there no guarantee mangagamer will not make VN voiceless(where voice patch info and voice patch download)
I think more effective if put a large advertisement mangagamers and Jast on fakku so people more familiar about them and can buy product from them, if possible give mangagamers or Jast free of charge.
or Second, put this words on fakku home/ first page "Please support mangagamers to translated new japanese game by buying their product" or use another words(nah sorry I'm not good with words).
or final, since Jacob start Store, why not add Official VN game to list for sale. since I working in someone store(real world), I think goods that Jacob sell to minimum (no offend sir, more exact salute for the idea to open the store).
This only the way my fool brain can think past 2 days,
it's not an order, it's not making fun of, It's just advice from little friend
sorry if I wrong...
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I don't think it matter much at this point. Fileshare providers are getting shut down or are cracking down on what can be shared now. 99% of the links on here are dead. We'll be going back to torrents & IRC until the government goes after those as well.
But for arguments sake. I don't care much either way. What's not made available here can be found on hongfire or somewhere else. If you do go through this I would also suggest as others have to make more of an effort to showcase what companies are releasing games, what games are being released, & where to legally acquire them.
But for arguments sake. I don't care much either way. What's not made available here can be found on hongfire or somewhere else. If you do go through this I would also suggest as others have to make more of an effort to showcase what companies are releasing games, what games are being released, & where to legally acquire them.
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i vote yes because i think if it's licensed, the advertisement for the game is lowered and i wouldn't know half of the games existed if it wasn't for fakku. how about where the links go you add the link to the website that is selling it legally? that would benefit both parties and allow people to still try the game.
Side note: piracy is only a issue now because of lack of distribution in certain areas of the world and lack of quality products. that and lack of money at the time to buy the product at the time.
Side note: piracy is only a issue now because of lack of distribution in certain areas of the world and lack of quality products. that and lack of money at the time to buy the product at the time.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
I don't even think this is a issue in the most part. It's not a valid reason to buy or not to buy a game to support the industry.. because weebs will buy it anyways. I play a good majority of untranslated vn's before it was douche back by jast or mangagamers. The only english vn i want to play is the my girlfriend is the prez.. but i rather play a demo before i pay good money on something that could be a pile of shit or fucking awesome. It's not like there isn't a copy or pirated shit out there... But the point is... if the companies go after the place where it hosting from and anywhere that has the links or how to get the links or how to crack serials or no cd mod a game... lord or fapping coke addicted god will lose money and probably his freedom in jail.
That the only answer there is.. will the owner of this site get in trouble.. yep.. he has in the past.. that why we have no anime or hentai user upload section. That wasn't filled with licensed animu or pronz.. maybe like 15-20% of them was.. a like from the old past shit. We need a cleaner on this site.. his job.. check if something is licensed.. then remove it. Then we can upload more stuff.. and ventrally be remove for safety reasons.
So allow jacob to do his job and his decision on what best for here and leave it at that. It's not like our opinion on his site matter anyways. Also unban guro.
That the only answer there is.. will the owner of this site get in trouble.. yep.. he has in the past.. that why we have no anime or hentai user upload section. That wasn't filled with licensed animu or pronz.. maybe like 15-20% of them was.. a like from the old past shit. We need a cleaner on this site.. his job.. check if something is licensed.. then remove it. Then we can upload more stuff.. and ventrally be remove for safety reasons.
So allow jacob to do his job and his decision on what best for here and leave it at that. It's not like our opinion on his site matter anyways. Also unban guro.
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I voted yes but after some additional thought would probably change my answer to no given the chance. While it probably won't make any real change in their sales it's probably better to err on the side of caution considering recent events and the possibility of a shitstorm in the near future.
Regardless of what's decided though I'd like to make a suggestion, since like many I come to fakku for any news on VNs being translated it would be nice if there was some sort of the sticky at the top of the section. I realize there's already the translated and master list ones but I'm thinking something more along the lines of a possible officially translated/licensed thread with a synopsis of each game, links to where it can be purchased, and maybe some cg or an OST download to get a feel for the game.
Regardless of what's decided though I'd like to make a suggestion, since like many I come to fakku for any news on VNs being translated it would be nice if there was some sort of the sticky at the top of the section. I realize there's already the translated and master list ones but I'm thinking something more along the lines of a possible officially translated/licensed thread with a synopsis of each game, links to where it can be purchased, and maybe some cg or an OST download to get a feel for the game.
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I liked what we tried with koihime musou. I think that they should allowed to be uploaded and locked till a certain amount of time has passed before people can view the upload. It encourages people to pay for the game. They then have 3 options, pay for the game, use a different source, or wait.
Ideally Fakku would be awesome enough to have it's own teams, paid/non paid to translate/license them. Hopefully some day in the future ^^.
Ideally Fakku would be awesome enough to have it's own teams, paid/non paid to translate/license them. Hopefully some day in the future ^^.