[Locked] FAKKU State of the Union 2016
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I'm not sure if this has been suggested before in this thread, but here's my two cents:
I'd like to have the ability to buy and download individual magazine chapters, just like one buys and downloads digital book copies. This will allow users to pay only for what they want, and will solve the Paypal payment problem for subscriptions. I would rather spend one or two bucks to buy the handful of chapters that interest me, than spend a dozen to just read hundreds (can you even download chapters with subscriptions? I'm not sure).
The only potential problem I see with this is how to handle future book releases that may contain chapters that a user has already bought. That's way into the future though, and there are certainly many solutions to this.
I'll mention one last thing: I was never a FAKKU user (never even lurked here) and the only reason I became one was the fact that FAKKU allowed me to buy uncensored and translated, physical and digital copies of books by artists whose work I've enjoyed for many years. I know there are lots of others like me out there, and I'm sure that they'd be willing to support their favorite artists, as well as the people that enabled them to do so, if they are given the chance to do so in a way that's convenient to them.
I'll certainly be sticking around to see where FAKKU goes from here.
I'd like to have the ability to buy and download individual magazine chapters, just like one buys and downloads digital book copies. This will allow users to pay only for what they want, and will solve the Paypal payment problem for subscriptions. I would rather spend one or two bucks to buy the handful of chapters that interest me, than spend a dozen to just read hundreds (can you even download chapters with subscriptions? I'm not sure).
The only potential problem I see with this is how to handle future book releases that may contain chapters that a user has already bought. That's way into the future though, and there are certainly many solutions to this.
I'll mention one last thing: I was never a FAKKU user (never even lurked here) and the only reason I became one was the fact that FAKKU allowed me to buy uncensored and translated, physical and digital copies of books by artists whose work I've enjoyed for many years. I know there are lots of others like me out there, and I'm sure that they'd be willing to support their favorite artists, as well as the people that enabled them to do so, if they are given the chance to do so in a way that's convenient to them.
I'll certainly be sticking around to see where FAKKU goes from here.
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luinthoron
High Priest of Loli
Zelamir wrote...
and will solve the Paypal payment problem for subscriptions.Sadly, it will not. Paypal was recently removed from digital only book purchases as well, they do not want to be used for non-physical adult purchases.
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Good on you Jacob and good on Fakku! I understand that this is a move towards legitimacy and collaboration with artists in order to change already conceived notions of western readers. I am from of the school of thought which believes all forms of expression should be free, but I understand that the artists who create these works aren't doing it for expression. Your move will definitely save Fakku any legal troubles in the future, which is definitely the smartest decision you can make.
Now my questions are these: Are you in contracts with the publishers and artists?
Does your business have a system to pay the artist per view?
If not, wouldn't a system like that truly support your argument that you are giving your up most support to those artists?
I can probably understand that your answer would probably sound like this:
Although Fakku supports artists, we are fundamentally a business and it is not feasible to pay every artist per every view. So, though we claim to want to change the viewpoint of Japanese Manga and Hentai Manga artists we do not see the logic of going bankrupt or crippling our own industry by paying every artist via contracts based on views.
Then I'm sure you'll explain that you have contracts with the publishers that allows you to buy content and give a certain percentage of your subscription fees to the publishers in order to maintain legal and financially productive agreements for both parties.
Now the publishers will then send a percentage of that, very small percentage, to the artist who will then scrape buy and Google him or herself, fulfilling an egotistical desire for public recognition, in hopes that their web pages will be the first thing they see. Unfortunately, for some reason, Google works on most viewed or searched pages and they can allow a person or company to purchase better placement on browsing inquiries, which defeats the Googling oneself for pity notion.
Anyways, I digress, I hope Fakku can pay the artist for what they are worth and for bringing such entertainment to this wonderful community that you have developed. I applaud your move, again, a great business decision and I really hope it truly is recognized as an olive branch from the Western fan base to the Eastern artists.
Now my questions are these: Are you in contracts with the publishers and artists?
Does your business have a system to pay the artist per view?
If not, wouldn't a system like that truly support your argument that you are giving your up most support to those artists?
I can probably understand that your answer would probably sound like this:
Although Fakku supports artists, we are fundamentally a business and it is not feasible to pay every artist per every view. So, though we claim to want to change the viewpoint of Japanese Manga and Hentai Manga artists we do not see the logic of going bankrupt or crippling our own industry by paying every artist via contracts based on views.
Then I'm sure you'll explain that you have contracts with the publishers that allows you to buy content and give a certain percentage of your subscription fees to the publishers in order to maintain legal and financially productive agreements for both parties.
Now the publishers will then send a percentage of that, very small percentage, to the artist who will then scrape buy and Google him or herself, fulfilling an egotistical desire for public recognition, in hopes that their web pages will be the first thing they see. Unfortunately, for some reason, Google works on most viewed or searched pages and they can allow a person or company to purchase better placement on browsing inquiries, which defeats the Googling oneself for pity notion.
Anyways, I digress, I hope Fakku can pay the artist for what they are worth and for bringing such entertainment to this wonderful community that you have developed. I applaud your move, again, a great business decision and I really hope it truly is recognized as an olive branch from the Western fan base to the Eastern artists.
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Zelamir wrote...
I'm not sure if this has been suggested before in this thread, but here's my two cents:I'd like to have the ability to buy and download individual magazine chapters, just like one buys and downloads digital book copies. This will allow users to pay only for what they want, and will solve the Paypal payment problem for subscriptions. I would rather spend one or two bucks to buy the handful of chapters that interest me, than spend a dozen to just read hundreds (can you even download chapters with subscriptions? I'm not sure).
The only potential problem I see with this is how to handle future book releases that may contain chapters that a user has already bought. That's way into the future though, and there are certainly many solutions to this.
I'll mention one last thing: I was never a FAKKU user (never even lurked here) and the only reason I became one was the fact that FAKKU allowed me to buy uncensored and translated, physical and digital copies of books by artists whose work I've enjoyed for many years. I know there are lots of others like me out there, and I'm sure that they'd be willing to support their favorite artists, as well as the people that enabled them to do so, if they are given the chance to do so in a way that's convenient to them.
I'll certainly be sticking around to see where FAKKU goes from here.
Tottally agree
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Mr.Everwood
will see you now ;)
adaw31 wrote...
Mr.Everwood wrote...
It's not like Crunchyroll died after they decided to have people pay for the content. People in Japan have to pay for it and they don't seem angry about it.So comments like Nobody will pay to fap, does this just come from a very low opinion on erotic art and sexuality in the first place?
Thing is though is that there is still a free option to Crunchyroll where they just have to wait a week later and its loaded with ad's everywhere and they can only view videos in sd quality. In my opinion it was unwise to remove all of that content without something to fill in that gap.
You can still read western hentai for free.
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OtakuSenpai
The Overseer
Blastonite wrote...
13 a month is a little too ridiculous unless you enjoy reading/fapping that often. Personally I only come over a few times a week so 13 is very hard for me
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The problem is with them not with us nor with you Fakku. They don't release their works properly; that is outside their country. They don't love the people who love their works. They simply don't love us back.
Everyone knows how they hog Japan stuff with themselves. Their games are exclusive to them, mangas and other goodies as well. Not knowing we love their goods MORE THAN their own people do. How could we play and buy their games if they are in Japanese? How do we buy mangas LEGALLY if they are not even available or even if they are, they stay in Japanese. NOT EVERYONE OF US KNOWS HOW TO READ THEIR LANGUAGE.
We love their works. We even pirate them just to play their games, read their mangas, watch animes. We help each other out. We simply love them! And it's not our fault why we do this ILLEGALLY. They forced us to. If they hadn't then this shouldn't be a problem now.
I am a new subscriber. Having noticed that everything's starting to become either for users only or dubbed 'Fakku books', I started to register. I would love to pay but isn't $12 too much..? Shouldn't there be a method where we pay for the series we specifically like? And it's per month for crying out loud. I don't even own any of the payment methods that are available. By the time I decided to create one, this showed up. Everything that is not licensed are removed. WHERE'S THE PURPOSE OF SUPPORTING THE ARTISTS NOW?
Forgive me if I am contradicting something. I just simply don't like whatever is happening.
Fakku, you were doing a great job supporting the artists and hey, they should be the one thanking you for having their works included in your massive library. The path you're taking now is different from where you used to be.
You shouldn't be the one making solutions. They are the problem. The way they release their works ARE the problem. You shouldn't be dealing with this on your own. And besides, no one would react negatively if whatever you're doing is correct, right?
We react like this because we love this site. Think this through Fakku.
Everyone knows how they hog Japan stuff with themselves. Their games are exclusive to them, mangas and other goodies as well. Not knowing we love their goods MORE THAN their own people do. How could we play and buy their games if they are in Japanese? How do we buy mangas LEGALLY if they are not even available or even if they are, they stay in Japanese. NOT EVERYONE OF US KNOWS HOW TO READ THEIR LANGUAGE.
We love their works. We even pirate them just to play their games, read their mangas, watch animes. We help each other out. We simply love them! And it's not our fault why we do this ILLEGALLY. They forced us to. If they hadn't then this shouldn't be a problem now.
I am a new subscriber. Having noticed that everything's starting to become either for users only or dubbed 'Fakku books', I started to register. I would love to pay but isn't $12 too much..? Shouldn't there be a method where we pay for the series we specifically like? And it's per month for crying out loud. I don't even own any of the payment methods that are available. By the time I decided to create one, this showed up. Everything that is not licensed are removed. WHERE'S THE PURPOSE OF SUPPORTING THE ARTISTS NOW?
Forgive me if I am contradicting something. I just simply don't like whatever is happening.
Fakku, you were doing a great job supporting the artists and hey, they should be the one thanking you for having their works included in your massive library. The path you're taking now is different from where you used to be.
You shouldn't be the one making solutions. They are the problem. The way they release their works ARE the problem. You shouldn't be dealing with this on your own. And besides, no one would react negatively if whatever you're doing is correct, right?
We react like this because we love this site. Think this through Fakku.
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OtakuSenpai
The Overseer
You know that a good percentage of at least 700,000 last I checked with the government stating 1.5 million people to join in within Japan are their industry? They (the Hikikomori) are generally into hentai manga and things of that nature, buying all the toys of their waifus. Over here it's more natural for us to divulge into video games (Steam) and the like, usually it's not x-rated content.
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Hanayome
Ultimate Laziness
was_left_unnoticed wrote...
The problem is with them not with us nor with you Fakku. They don't release their works properly; that is outside their country. They don't love the people who love their works. They simply don't love us back.Everyone knows how they hog Japan stuff with themselves. Their games are exclusive to them, mangas and other goodies as well. Not knowing we love their goods MORE THAN their own people do. How could we play and buy their games if they are in Japanese? How do we buy mangas LEGALLY if they are not even available or even if they are, they stay in Japanese. NOT EVERYONE OF US KNOWS HOW TO READ THEIR LANGUAGE.
What do you mean you love them more than they do lol. If you really loved their games, manga and whatnot you would've already learned Japanese solely to play those games (after importing them of course). Japanese fans are pretty rabid to defend their favorite publishers (Japanese Alicesoft fans).
As for Japan "hogging" everything, they're made in Japan for Japanese fans. The cost to localize manga/games that are not already insanely popular (AoT, SAO stuff like that) with low chance of success would probably bankrupt companies. That and with the rampant piracy culture in the west, I'm not surprised that Japanese companies just see us as leeches who don't want to pay for anything.
was_left_unnoticed wrote...
We love their works. We even pirate them just to play their games, read their mangas, watch animes. We help each other out. We simply love them! And it's not our fault why we do this ILLEGALLY. They forced us to. If they hadn't then this shouldn't be a problem now.
They don't force you to do anything. You can import all of these things even if you don't know Japanese. A lot of hardcore fans for artists already import their doujins and tankoubans.
was_left_unnoticed wrote...
I am a new subscriber. Having noticed that everything's starting to become either for users only or dubbed 'Fakku books', I started to register. I would love to pay but isn't $12 too much..? Shouldn't there be a method where we pay for the series we specifically like? And it's per month for crying out loud. I don't even own any of the payment methods that are available. By the time I decided to create one, this showed up. Everything that is not licensed are removed. WHERE'S THE PURPOSE OF SUPPORTING THE ARTISTS NOW?
$12 is the cost of going to Mcdonalds twice a month or getting coffee for a few days. As for unlicensed content, the artists wouldn't get any of the money from the subscription if they were included. It would be like Doujin-Moe who does a similar thing but pockets all the money since they don't own any licenses.
And after the whole speech about how much you love Japan, $12 is too much?
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Hi, there're some essential things I want to discuss with you.
First, although your purpose when eliminating free contents is good, you and Fakku surely have to encounter the two most deadly obvious disadvantages:
1. People having no income (such as students) and people who prefer free things would leave this site immediately without reading your post, and the number of them could be thousands.
2. You can foreseen that: Limited contents cannot satisfy viewers or subcribers here. You must enhance your process ten times or more, it's an emphasis; otherwise you will lose it all.
Secondly, I want to support you so bad, but I have no income. I still have to rely on my parents and over 12 dollars (250.000VND) /month with a Vietnamese kid like me is an expensive offer. So if I can help anything, such as voting or telling people your desires, I will.
First, although your purpose when eliminating free contents is good, you and Fakku surely have to encounter the two most deadly obvious disadvantages:
1. People having no income (such as students) and people who prefer free things would leave this site immediately without reading your post, and the number of them could be thousands.
2. You can foreseen that: Limited contents cannot satisfy viewers or subcribers here. You must enhance your process ten times or more, it's an emphasis; otherwise you will lose it all.
Secondly, I want to support you so bad, but I have no income. I still have to rely on my parents and over 12 dollars (250.000VND) /month with a Vietnamese kid like me is an expensive offer. So if I can help anything, such as voting or telling people your desires, I will.
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was_left_unnoticed wrote...
The problem is with them not with us nor with you Fakku. They don't release their works properly; that is outside their country. They don't love the people who love their works. They simply don't love us back.Everyone knows how they hog Japan stuff with themselves. Their games are exclusive to them, mangas and other goodies as well. Not knowing we love their goods MORE THAN their own people do. How could we play and buy their games if they are in Japanese? How do we buy mangas LEGALLY if they are not even available or even if they are, they stay in Japanese. NOT EVERYONE OF US KNOWS HOW TO READ THEIR LANGUAGE.
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That's just a lot of projecting, sorry.
https://twitter.com/Souryu_STD/status/677934591890489344
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12$ is cheap. Thats fact. Its just how much you can stomach paying for porn when you never did before would form the result of your decisions.
Those who never paid for a sub for porn will always complain of the price. They dont even know what that price is worth. Again, its not their paychecks that gets smaller when it should get bigger.
Those who never paid for a sub for porn will always complain of the price. They dont even know what that price is worth. Again, its not their paychecks that gets smaller when it should get bigger.
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OtakuSenpai
The Overseer
hgatedc wrote...
12$ is cheap. Thats fact. I decided to do the math and even with conversion, $18 CAD is only 1.5% of my income over 2 weeks. 100 / 1.5 = 66.6 * 18.42 = (Not important) :P
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Great job Fakku. I fully support your decision. At first I was like everyone who leeches of but then you created fakku books which I never would thought would happen. I immediately jump on and bought a few books. Although I have been buying alot of H-comic every month none of them was translated so I was glad when you add x-Eros, subbed immediately. Having to pay for translated content is way better. Most people who never work for their money would never know how to appreciate stuff let alone thinking free things are best. If everything was free nothing new will ever come to be. That on a side note, content is lacking but hopefully more will come. I for one will continue my support for you. Been here since 2011 and will be ongoing.
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You guys reminded me Cruncyroll (Back in the old times, it was an illegal site). You are doing good, do your best to create a legal platform that easy to access (Damn, region locks) and cheap.
Also, I can see the hate of people, because the site turned to the Legal.
Also, I can see the hate of people, because the site turned to the Legal.
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OtakuSenpai wrote...
UraharaChan wrote...
remember, currency exchange + credit card payment are uncrossable barriers for some of us :<Depends where you're from. I'm from Canada, and debit cards are Visa-enabled automatically now when you get a bank account. If not, you just go into your branch and ask fora Visa-enabled debit card and /gg. Also, here, at least in Canada, minimum wage is 11.75. The subscription translates into an hour and a half of work per month for many people. (Currency conversion) and most people should be fine with that. Even the subscription for crappy indie games on HumbleBundle is around the same price. ie: Pay $12 US to get 5+ games/mo that you'll never play just for epeen on Steam. People actually pay for this.
I work two jobs as an adult to support my habits that I know cost me money.
that's nice - for me, it isn't as simple. not only it doesn't translate to a 1,5h of work to afford it (it's about 12h of work), but also my bank, and all the other banks give credit cards to people who meet certain requirements - requirements which I do not meet, and will not be able to for many years to come. finally, I have no way of knowing whether the CC I will get (theoretically OFC) will even be elligable for the transfer
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N0idas
sadi0N
Is the uncensored tag needed anymore now that it is only subscription manga(which is as far as I know, all uncensored) on the website?
Since you release two magazines a month, would it not make sense to give an option to subscribe to one magazine instead of both? If both magazines are $12, then one magazine could be $7-8?
Since you release two magazines a month, would it not make sense to give an option to subscribe to one magazine instead of both? If both magazines are $12, then one magazine could be $7-8?
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This update has now also taken a lot of tags out of play. The ones I can think of off the top of my head are basically anything related to yaoi (trap included. Sure there's like 4 doujins but that's not much), pegging, shota and a bunch of others. Sure these are not the most popular tags since they all contain males receiving rather than giving, but still. Goodbye Fakku, it was a good run. I'll come back occasionally to check how things progress / change, but I won't subscribe anymore on those off months where I have a bit of spare money :/
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The subscription idea was the biggest issue I have here. However, if you guys can give us the option to buy the translated comics as an alternative that would bring me back to purchasing more of your content. From a few perspectives, it may be a waste of money buying each comic individually. But, to me, it's worth the investment.
Now, some people here brought this up that piracy is going to be the main concern if users were to buy the translated magazines I brought up earlier then post it to competing H-manga sites. Let me say this: people will find ways to pirate stuff even from subscription based sites like Fakku no matter what. You can't stop it no matter how hard you try. You just have to hope the marketing can win consumers as well as pirates who get their H-manga and doujins for free.
With that being said, I'll continue to lurk and hope Jacob and the staff can sell the translated comics individually.
Now, some people here brought this up that piracy is going to be the main concern if users were to buy the translated magazines I brought up earlier then post it to competing H-manga sites. Let me say this: people will find ways to pirate stuff even from subscription based sites like Fakku no matter what. You can't stop it no matter how hard you try. You just have to hope the marketing can win consumers as well as pirates who get their H-manga and doujins for free.
With that being said, I'll continue to lurk and hope Jacob and the staff can sell the translated comics individually.