[Locked] FAKKU State of the Union 2016
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Eternal! wrote...
Arcanesin wrote...
My objection to most of the arguments on here about having to pay is that its mostly just one thing, that its now Pay vs Free.recently here in the UK they introduced a charge of 5p for a carrier bag in supermarkets now, and its astounding how many people now refuse to use them. and this isnt simply a moral outrage at being charged, it is because it was once free and now isn't, much the same as Fakku is doing.
Except that was deliberate. That tax was to help the environment, not raise money
true but the point remains that vast swathes of the general public refused to buy them because they now had to pay, and now people on here being asked to pay for premium content is getting peoples backs up for much the same reason.
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Bladesaber
Vanilla Enthusiast
Arcanesin wrote...
Eternal! wrote...
Arcanesin wrote...
My objection to most of the arguments on here about having to pay is that its mostly just one thing, that its now Pay vs Free.recently here in the UK they introduced a charge of 5p for a carrier bag in supermarkets now, and its astounding how many people now refuse to use them. and this isnt simply a moral outrage at being charged, it is because it was once free and now isn't, much the same as Fakku is doing.
Except that was deliberate. That tax was to help the environment, not raise money
true but the point remains that vast swathes of the general public refused to buy them because they now had to pay, and now people on here being asked to pay for premium content is getting peoples backs up for much the same reason.
The problem with that thought process is, the content was going to go away eventually either way. I don't really understand this thought process of "well it was free so wtf wai." Fakku got a takedown notice, i.e. Full legal claims by the owners (Wani) to take down content. This is not normally negotiable in any way, you take it down (or don't and face legal action) and that's that. Eventually, all the content you have can be claimed if they care enough, and with how big Fakku is, companies were starting to notice and take action. This is and will always be the only way free hentai will go, it just might take longer in other places. What we had on here, with a very very small fraction (3 specifically which are still here btw), was all illegally obtained material that was being redistributed through fakku and other sites. None of it, with the sole exceptions being the books, subscription content, and the 3 doxy hentais, was legally Fakku's to have on here. It was just there, and for awhile nobody happened to notice or care. Jacob happened to be very lucky/smart and took a chance when the Wani takedown happened, and turned what would eventually be the death of the site anyways, into a chance at quality LEGAL hentai that would have no reason to be taken down.
Yes it is behind a paywall, yes it does suck that there aren't any free material or as massive a library as it had, but you cannot legitimately tell me we had any right to have anything on there, it wasn't ours and we didn't own it. We have some claim to the content now being produced on here, and it will eventually grow back into the mammoth collection it once was, especially (as other people have said) now that there aren't any scanlations or illegal content on here. You just have to suck it up and be patient.
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Zizi wrote...
Eternal! wrote...
Kisuka wrote...
When exporting your collections / favorites, the removed content will now be in your export.Oh thank fuuuuuuuck for that <3
*dances*
I'll dearly miss good old Fakku, but this was the most important thing for me ^^
I can't pretend I'm happy with the loss of everything Fakku started out as, and the main stuff that made it such a great site, but ultimately this is Jacob's site and his decision.
It has been a pleasure and a privilege being here, and I'm sorry it all had to end like this, but good luck in your future endevours.
The only thing I was really upset about was not bothering to tell us before wiping out the favourites, which made (I'm sure) a lot of us feel that everything we'd invested in the site was meaningless and we simply weren't valued.
So thanks for being nice~
I would however strongly recommend putting a post or advert about this somewhere obvious (rather than just page 19 of a massive thread) so people get a chance to hear about it.
P.S. Just one ore thing... anyone know how best to go about reading the exported file?
Search for JSON parser and use your favorite one.
Oh Zizi you're too perfect <3
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...so, basically this has become another pay-per-read website. That's a shame. But a lot of free website are out there, some even with the exact same content as this (some even with the exact graphic interface, almost). I was already unhappy about all the pay-per-read contents, but at least there was some balance before.
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Was a subscriber, currently not.
I understand why you removed the content, it makes sense. The artist deserve their due because the work is amazing. This is why I paid in the past. The thing is for a monthly service it is kind of pricey so I see myself paying for a month every 2nd or 3rd month.
Fakku really needs to get the 3-6-9-12 month subscription options going because that would make it much more appealing to me. Sign be up for a 12 month with a discount today!
I understand why you removed the content, it makes sense. The artist deserve their due because the work is amazing. This is why I paid in the past. The thing is for a monthly service it is kind of pricey so I see myself paying for a month every 2nd or 3rd month.
Fakku really needs to get the 3-6-9-12 month subscription options going because that would make it much more appealing to me. Sign be up for a 12 month with a discount today!
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I have a question am trying to RE up my subscription but i get a message
There was a problem.
You are banned from subscribing to FAKKU.
I havent done anything wrong so am asking if this is a problem for other people.
There was a problem.
You are banned from subscribing to FAKKU.
I havent done anything wrong so am asking if this is a problem for other people.
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Let me first start off by saying I have not been an active member in the FAKKU community since joining and creating an account some years ago. My participation extended only to 2 "Request" forum posts and the occasional poll submission. Let me also say that I will continue to subscribe to FAKKU solely because of the good cause behind the decision that was made and because of the high quality content it affords. Even if in one month only 8 chapters are released on this site, I still find that to be a fair price for what is provided.
That being said, I am not without my concerns and opinions that I would like to voice.
1. The removal of all unlicensed content in my favorites folder came as a surprise to me. While I have been aware of their decision to remove unlicensed content for many months, I was not made aware of this. Call it lack of attentiveness, lack of participation, etc., I simply did not know and did not make use of features that would enable me to export the titles of that LENGTHY list.
The only reason I knew of the plan to remove content at all was because it had a link at the top of the home page like this one, and even then I skimmed through it. Was it posted there that an export feature was added and should be used? Was it given a link at the top of the home page? Regardless, I honestly didn't suffer much since everything I favorited here I also favorited elsewhere (hentai2read.com) so I technically still have a list.
I bring this up as a concern because there clearly exists a lack of community involvement from a number of frequent visitors, subscribers or not, and there are things that could be done to prevent that. Giving important posts like this and the content removal post bigger banners is one possible solution. The point being that while FAKKU has been transparent about this decision for a long time, it surprised too many people and that should not have happened.
2. While I will continue to support FAKKU, I do believe this decision was improperly timed to prevent substantial backlash from the community. Related to the previous issue, even users that were aware well in advance have legitimate concerns over the amount of content that is no longer available on their favorite, or one of their favorite platforms. What percent of all content was removed compared to what is currently available? What are the traffic statistics , revenue, and projections for FAKKU? I ask this since I would sincerely like to know how things are looking and whether my subscription actually means anything at all of this site truly is dying, which seems to be a legitimate concern. Could FAKKU have worked out a deal to licence more publications prior to the cleanse? If the existence of the unlicensed content was an issue, could it have been negotiated that content they are removing be ready to upload after the unlicensed versions were removed?
I might not have explained this well, but basically what I am saying is could FAKKU have secured licenses to content so that when the cleanse occurred, they could immediately, or even later on, return a sizable amount of content back to the site legitimately? If not, why? Was it to secure a gesture of good faith to potentially secure more content? Was this what they actually planned and we just haven't gotten the increase yet? Will FAKKU have a comparable content amount? If so, when can this be expected to occur? If not, why should I or others stick around?
3. Not much is known about the future plans of FAKKU. The biggest reasons for the loss of approval from the community is the loss of a lot of content and the loss of information for their favorited titles. While it has been stated that FAKKU is working on "big things" it is not at all clear what those are or if it will address these 2 issues. Perhaps it would silence many naysayers if more about these plans are revealed so that people know now whether FAKKU is worth the subscription. The biggest selling points of FAKKU were the abundance of content, amazing platform, and awesome community. They lost one of them (content), and the other 2 depended on that large content pool to be worthwhile.
Also, if "big plans" are in the works, why weren't they released prior to the cleansing of content? If they are truly worth the subscription from us as consumers, how come these weren't released prior to the removal so that it would negate or mitigate concerns from the community? I am not sure what sort of timetable FAKKU was under when implementing this decision or why it needed to occur when it did, but it seemed rushed and without much support for the site after the change was made. This is very concerning to me since even if it is not true, it gives the appearance of desperation, instability, and dire circumstances. This is because I don't believe FAKKU would make this decision without other features or content to keep their consumer base if they could have. Since I believe this, then I must also believe it was outside their control or poorly managed, neither of which is good. I would hate to see the site die because I truly love this site and what it plans to achieve in the future, but the present state of affairs leaves too much to chance and not enough on solid support and planning.
It literally feels like FAKKU is starting fresh with hardly a candle to its previous content size while asking for money to legitimize the industry in the States, and if that's all this is without actually giving consumers more for that cost then I can hardly say I don't understand why people aren't on board. This is a sad truth that either FAKKU did not fully appreciate, or they do and have plans to deal with it. I only wish that those plans were released prior to this decision rather than after.
Let me reiterate that I am, and will continue to be a subscriber, but I do wish for these questions and concerns to be answered not simply for my sake, but for the sake of the community. I wish FAKKU the best and I hope for its continued growth and longevity.
That being said, I am not without my concerns and opinions that I would like to voice.
1. The removal of all unlicensed content in my favorites folder came as a surprise to me. While I have been aware of their decision to remove unlicensed content for many months, I was not made aware of this. Call it lack of attentiveness, lack of participation, etc., I simply did not know and did not make use of features that would enable me to export the titles of that LENGTHY list.
The only reason I knew of the plan to remove content at all was because it had a link at the top of the home page like this one, and even then I skimmed through it. Was it posted there that an export feature was added and should be used? Was it given a link at the top of the home page? Regardless, I honestly didn't suffer much since everything I favorited here I also favorited elsewhere (hentai2read.com) so I technically still have a list.
I bring this up as a concern because there clearly exists a lack of community involvement from a number of frequent visitors, subscribers or not, and there are things that could be done to prevent that. Giving important posts like this and the content removal post bigger banners is one possible solution. The point being that while FAKKU has been transparent about this decision for a long time, it surprised too many people and that should not have happened.
2. While I will continue to support FAKKU, I do believe this decision was improperly timed to prevent substantial backlash from the community. Related to the previous issue, even users that were aware well in advance have legitimate concerns over the amount of content that is no longer available on their favorite, or one of their favorite platforms. What percent of all content was removed compared to what is currently available? What are the traffic statistics , revenue, and projections for FAKKU? I ask this since I would sincerely like to know how things are looking and whether my subscription actually means anything at all of this site truly is dying, which seems to be a legitimate concern. Could FAKKU have worked out a deal to licence more publications prior to the cleanse? If the existence of the unlicensed content was an issue, could it have been negotiated that content they are removing be ready to upload after the unlicensed versions were removed?
I might not have explained this well, but basically what I am saying is could FAKKU have secured licenses to content so that when the cleanse occurred, they could immediately, or even later on, return a sizable amount of content back to the site legitimately? If not, why? Was it to secure a gesture of good faith to potentially secure more content? Was this what they actually planned and we just haven't gotten the increase yet? Will FAKKU have a comparable content amount? If so, when can this be expected to occur? If not, why should I or others stick around?
3. Not much is known about the future plans of FAKKU. The biggest reasons for the loss of approval from the community is the loss of a lot of content and the loss of information for their favorited titles. While it has been stated that FAKKU is working on "big things" it is not at all clear what those are or if it will address these 2 issues. Perhaps it would silence many naysayers if more about these plans are revealed so that people know now whether FAKKU is worth the subscription. The biggest selling points of FAKKU were the abundance of content, amazing platform, and awesome community. They lost one of them (content), and the other 2 depended on that large content pool to be worthwhile.
Also, if "big plans" are in the works, why weren't they released prior to the cleansing of content? If they are truly worth the subscription from us as consumers, how come these weren't released prior to the removal so that it would negate or mitigate concerns from the community? I am not sure what sort of timetable FAKKU was under when implementing this decision or why it needed to occur when it did, but it seemed rushed and without much support for the site after the change was made. This is very concerning to me since even if it is not true, it gives the appearance of desperation, instability, and dire circumstances. This is because I don't believe FAKKU would make this decision without other features or content to keep their consumer base if they could have. Since I believe this, then I must also believe it was outside their control or poorly managed, neither of which is good. I would hate to see the site die because I truly love this site and what it plans to achieve in the future, but the present state of affairs leaves too much to chance and not enough on solid support and planning.
It literally feels like FAKKU is starting fresh with hardly a candle to its previous content size while asking for money to legitimize the industry in the States, and if that's all this is without actually giving consumers more for that cost then I can hardly say I don't understand why people aren't on board. This is a sad truth that either FAKKU did not fully appreciate, or they do and have plans to deal with it. I only wish that those plans were released prior to this decision rather than after.
Let me reiterate that I am, and will continue to be a subscriber, but I do wish for these questions and concerns to be answered not simply for my sake, but for the sake of the community. I wish FAKKU the best and I hope for its continued growth and longevity.
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I understand the decision, but I am not finding anything that justifies the subscription.
Yet.
I will be checking back at a later date. Best of luck.
Yet.
I will be checking back at a later date. Best of luck.
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OtakuSenpai
The Overseer
Saying that you will lose respect or your parents will be upset because you fap the hentai is not a quantifiable excuse. If you have people in your life who genuinely are like that, who will judge you based on what you do behind closed doors(unless you're a pedo), they aren't true friends and parents especially should be a lot more uncaring about what you jerk your tiny pecker off to at night. lol
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Vanilj
Vanilla makes right.
There is no point in me writing what other users have already written in different words, but I do need to emphasise one thing.
I subscribed because Fakku always have been the biggest english hentai community.
With thousands upon thousands of great works, amazing users and good moderators.
I get the whole law abiding citizen stuff and I support that, but you promised me updates and new content regularly.
Not only is the site updated scarcely, but when I go to tags and click on mostergirls, I get one (1(ONE)) result.
That's like answering the "give me one reason to stay on fakku" question literally.
Seriously, for 12.95$ a month, you guys have to to better.
It's been several weeks now and so far I'm not impressed.
I'm sorry to tell you this because I love you guys and your ideas! <3
It's breaking my heart, but if I don't see a major change no later than the last of February, then I'm switching supplier.
I subscribed because Fakku always have been the biggest english hentai community.
With thousands upon thousands of great works, amazing users and good moderators.
I get the whole law abiding citizen stuff and I support that, but you promised me updates and new content regularly.
Not only is the site updated scarcely, but when I go to tags and click on mostergirls, I get one (1(ONE)) result.
That's like answering the "give me one reason to stay on fakku" question literally.
Seriously, for 12.95$ a month, you guys have to to better.
It's been several weeks now and so far I'm not impressed.
I'm sorry to tell you this because I love you guys and your ideas! <3
It's breaking my heart, but if I don't see a major change no later than the last of February, then I'm switching supplier.
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While I wasn't very active on FAKKU (at least not logged in with this Account) I have been her for, about seven(?) years. I am sad about it's 'decline' (I will use this term in lack of a more suitable word).
Obviously I understand why you have to take this steps and I am glad that you willingly take that path that might lead to complete ruin, it approves that you are 99,9% convinced that it is the right thing to do. Nontheless I feel like you missed a thing (I don't know about other users stating the same thing; I did not read through all previous comments): Availability.
I love Hentai to death and I am willing to buy some of the crappy as hell german DVDs -- god dammit they are just so bad! -- that appear from time to time. I am also willing to buy japanese Doujinshi, DVD's and Eromangas whenever I get ahold on one although I can't read japanese Kanji at all. Heck I even pay for Mangagamer-Translation-VN's. But even with all efforts I am still just able to catch the smallest glimpse of the things that are out there. The very, very least amount of Doujinshi ever finds its way into my range and so I have to resort to piracy to keep up with all the new stuff and my hobby.
It pains me to say this but the whole hentai-(and even Anime as a whole)buiseness outsite Japan is unescapable downward spiral. Weare willing to pay but most things don't come across the oceans and if they do, they are incredible expensive or 'outdated'. Thats why so many of us watch animes and read manga for free, knowing that this will not make the publishers more willing to give actual publishing a try. And with this we have to resort to piracy again...
I wish you the very best. Many joyful memories link me to FAKKU but I don't think that I will be able to follow your new path. Most likely I will buy some English Paper-Back Manga in the near future(and I hope that there are many more to come) but thats about it.
Obviously I understand why you have to take this steps and I am glad that you willingly take that path that might lead to complete ruin, it approves that you are 99,9% convinced that it is the right thing to do. Nontheless I feel like you missed a thing (I don't know about other users stating the same thing; I did not read through all previous comments): Availability.
I love Hentai to death and I am willing to buy some of the crappy as hell german DVDs -- god dammit they are just so bad! -- that appear from time to time. I am also willing to buy japanese Doujinshi, DVD's and Eromangas whenever I get ahold on one although I can't read japanese Kanji at all. Heck I even pay for Mangagamer-Translation-VN's. But even with all efforts I am still just able to catch the smallest glimpse of the things that are out there. The very, very least amount of Doujinshi ever finds its way into my range and so I have to resort to piracy to keep up with all the new stuff and my hobby.
It pains me to say this but the whole hentai-(and even Anime as a whole)buiseness outsite Japan is unescapable downward spiral. Weare willing to pay but most things don't come across the oceans and if they do, they are incredible expensive or 'outdated'. Thats why so many of us watch animes and read manga for free, knowing that this will not make the publishers more willing to give actual publishing a try. And with this we have to resort to piracy again...
I wish you the very best. Many joyful memories link me to FAKKU but I don't think that I will be able to follow your new path. Most likely I will buy some English Paper-Back Manga in the near future(and I hope that there are many more to come) but thats about it.
Greetings from Germany (sorry for my bad orthography and grammar)
Illusionmaker
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Here a idea where everyone can win and should be easy to add. if you was to create a free to view page or filter where content can be uploaded for everyone to see sub or none then it can provide a promotion of content creators who may not be known yet or see what some who do only upload subscribe only content can show off some work so they buy there books. it should be easy to add via html and css! also id say look into advertisement on the page maybe to the side so non sub work can still get a percentage of money and give you guys some also.
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First of all, I'd like to say I'm really glad you're going in the direction you've wanted to bring this, and I'm glad all the artists and such are going to get paid. I've been a fan of this site for a while before I made this account, maybe two years total.I can't help with your goals now, but I'll be lurking until I can sub. And I really hope this becomes a success. Even without seeing the new content I know it's worth the money, from history and because you guys listen to your community and genuinely seem to care about what they want to see, how they feel about the changes, and even silly things, like which cock size is generally liked more. It's great a website built to see Asuka in the nude has blossomed into a business, where I can see ads at the bottom with somebody cosplaying Asuka as she's blowing a guy.
My only suggestion, really, is to maybe consider paying for a subscription to only one of the magazines you have published for a lower price than subscribing to both. Some of the content for some of the money, for the less financially-abled.
Hope you all the success, and looking forward to when I can be a part of it.
My only suggestion, really, is to maybe consider paying for a subscription to only one of the magazines you have published for a lower price than subscribing to both. Some of the content for some of the money, for the less financially-abled.
Hope you all the success, and looking forward to when I can be a part of it.
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Lemonian wrote...
I don't have a problem with what happened, but still 2 problems.1. I have been looking into becoming a subscriber, but as I saw on the forum at some point that they will add other ways of payments after months you guys still haven't done. I would like a paypal way of paying, since I have no creditcard.
2. I think the price is too high for some people, if there were like tiers of subscriber. What I would like to pay for it for 1 month would be around. 8-9 dollar.
Anyway, those are my thoughts and I hope for the love of god a paypal method comes.
AGREED!