Hello new mobile site layout!

@Kisuka as a web developer I can't agree with your words. Let's face it Fakku gets high ratting on Google one way or another due to the never ending hits and flow of users who visit every day or few times a day to checkup on new things that been added. With that said Google indexes Fakku often and assures high page rank.

If you bothered to take a look at Alexa and other traffic analytical tools you will see Fakku data is in the green or up. Not negative or down, meaning there is no problem with visitors.

Now regarding Google and mobile sites. Google likes Mobile sites as there is ever growing use of mobile devices and need for sites operating well on this devices is important. However outside of mobile design compatibility Google also takes into consideration many variables such as mobile site speed, css/js file size, how optimized the assets are for mobile (images, css, js).

Thing I found interesting is that I never seen you around and I will assume your a new member of Fakku team. However it kind of ticked me off that a developer disregards users with "not sure if it can be done". Oh it can be done. I wonder what would you say about working with server-side encryption being processed by a client side and outputting decrypted results in client browser without direct data injection but instead injecting it into a element and keeping it secure as it would not pop up in source code. Or writing a web encryption that would allow files encrypted on a server to be easily decrypted on a desktop with a program or a terminal using sequence of openssl commands. You will probably be lost beyond this world, I on other hand have been writing PHP code for past 7 years of my life as a hobby and for past 2 years been working with PHP data encryption along with other programming languages, and encryption is frustrating. But a basic style switcher? Really? I will take my patriotic duty to be an asshole and provide you with some examples of what a casual developer would do to solve this magically complex issue with everything being blamed on Google.

1 - A developer would create a link in the bottom of the footer linking to a script that would create a signed cookie telling the server-side that the client wants to load desktop.css instead of mobile.css. This is useful for guests. And guess what many sites have option to switch to mobile and Google is A-OKAY with that, nor do bots follow it. And if you wanted you could create it as a AJAX modal prompt asking users to confirm there choice, something a Google bot is not capable of nor would the link be indexed as it would look something like this https://fakku.net/# since it was an AJAX call to jQuery to execute DOM and load the modal window.

2 - A developer would then think what can be done for registered user or users who deny cookies in there browsers? Well boy that's easy one. Create a database record. All it takes is really one SQL record here is a quick user table I did in Workbench



See is_desktop_view (INT) now lets see how it would actually need to be. It would need to be an integer with length of 1 since we are using 1 and 0. A default value would be 0 meaning :false (mobile css would load when on mobile device and signed in) else if value is 1 meaning :true (desktop css would load when on mobile device ignoring the default value aka 0).

In this case its a win-win for everyone and its nothing overly complex. Guests get there cookies to act as local storage for there preferences and registered users get database to pull there preferences which can also be stored to browser via HTML5 IndexedDB or HTML5 Local.Storage API's which are supported by all current browser last time I checked.

So with that said there is nothing overly complicated about making users have desktop css over the mobile css nor is there anything related to Google to use as scape goat. I hope this was a valuable lesson, and do not take it to heart my ass like behavior. I don't like developers saying that simple things are impossible.

What I don't understand is why I can't force Chrome to use the Desktop version of the website on my phone. I've *never* encountered this in god knows how many years I've used Android/Chrome, so... was it done on purpose? The comments about Google indexing certainly make it look that way...

I'm not one to over-react, but being forced to use the mobile version of Fakku has really put me off even coming onto the site -- it just feels too cramped, pretty much *all* text is cut off with an "..." and ironically it actually looks/works WORSE on my tablet (which is my main device for using Fakku) despite having a bigger/higher resolution screen, with the above problems being amplified, despite these changes supposedly being implemented to make the website fit better to your device's screen size.

The method of Full Site request on mobile is quite easy. By default your mobile browser tells Fakku that you are using Chrome Mobile / Ver / Build from iOS or Android / Ver / Build. Now the Full Site request works by spoofing that record and telling the website server that you are coming from Chrome / Ver / Build from OS X or Windows, but in most cases it will be listed as Other operating system.

Since the server gets this it pulls up the needed data. However with Fakku its not possible as it reading something called queries in the CSS (style sheet) this queries tell the web browser to render the webpage this way or that way based on the pixel size of the screen and settings since this stylesheet is one for both desktop and mobile your phone can't get the full since there being executed from one file. The browser full version function would work if there were two files.



media="screen" refers to desktop/laptops/tv's/monitors so it would be called for this type of devices and
media="handheld" is self explanatory

Web developers use media="print" to make a very simple page design for printing instead of printing all the images and not needed junk. But I think the current developer did not consider this, or is not aware of this magical things that existed since HTML4 (HTML5 current standard).

I'll add in an option at the bottom of the page to revert back to the desktop view, it won't be difficult to do. Possibly have it done by the end of today.

The mobile version is obviously a work in progress, I'll start helping out and by the end of this week we'll have it looking really good.

Do not click the search bar at all unless you need to search something, as the auto result drop down thing obscures all the screen and scrolls down with the header, blocking all view even if you can scroll down... And you can't get rid of it unless you hit enter and go to a page you didn't mean to go.
At least not with an iPhone and Chrome.

Thanks for the updates on the phone view. As a person who mostly uses fakku on phone I'm sure you will get a great design eventually. But for now a I'm happy to see the implement of a desktop version

@c1ph3r I was not disregarding the users. I stated "not sure if it can be done" simply because it was late and I hadn't considered it yet. I said that as "I'll look into it" type of response. I apologize if it came off as me just disregarding the suggestion, that was not my intention. Of course I know it CAN be done. But I hadn't begun playing around with the idea yet. I also didn't want to give a for-sure answer yet as I hadn't talked with Jacob yet on if we wanted to offer both options.

I never said Google is not indexing us properly right now. They will be changing their algorithm soon (Source) to take responsive design into the calculation. We had already begun seeing FAKKU results falling lower than some other scanlation sites (that were mobile friendly) that we were previously ahead of.

Yes, I'm a new employee at FAKKU. I started in January and I've known Jacob for a few years now. My first large commit was the Collections system. Previously I was the IT Manager for Digital Manga, Inc for about a year. Before that I was the Director of IT for SPJA / Anime Expo, and before that... a developer at a web hosting company.

In terms of side work... I've been heavily involved with the C written Ragnarok Online emulation project, eAthena, since 2004. I also used to operate a furry social networking website. So there, now you know who I am, nice to meet you.

Thank god. Fakku had become nearly unusable for me on my phone.

I did go over your portfolio being the stalker that I am. However I tend to have a short fuse and start bashing others quite fast, just to later apologize. And I'm partially sorry for bashing you there. I did not look into your professional profile and git projects before I originally posted. Google has made massive changes to Penguin and Panda algorithms to be more critical and that is a major blow to many SEO Guru's and Veterans. First Google added ssl secured sites at higher advantage and now the mobile wars, but even so desktop workaround is quite simple and is 15 min tops.

Welcome to Fakku as a new developer and I hope we will be getting more features added in near future. I'm not a big C fanatic as its pain in the ass and eAthena is generally a pain in the ass. I'm a PHP and ASP.NET MVC4 C# - VB.NET developer. I ran two encrypted file sharing sites before Mega on the web and I generally focus most of my time creating encrypted websites and applications with encrypted database communication with either SERPENT cipher or AES-128/256 bit ciphers. Just like you I been a developer of a web hosting company based out of Miami which I still maintain allot of code since there entire site operates on encrypted protocols internally to assure up-most security. As of now I'm working on my own project a bug tracker since I hate most bug trackers out there. And also a developer for a video game community fan site. I'm also a member of Pirate Party of Canada :)

And this is little bit about me.

To be honest although I liked the other one a bit better this layout isn't bad, my only real problem with it is once you pick a forum (feedback, books,etc) the next pages titles don't text wrap. there's just the first two words of the title, for this one it is like hello new mob.... It makes it difficult to tell what forum your actually clicking on unless you rotate the screen everytime.

That'll be fixed on Monday :) Been working on random bits of forum clean up on mobile this weekend.

Well that's the pretty much 99% of my remaining problems so after that's fixed I'll be pretty happy. It's nice to see you guys working so hard to fix any issues :)

Your (all users) user experience is one our top priorities :) We want to make sure all have a pleasant experience using FAKKU on whatever device they visit it on.

This is the only problem I have with the mobile layout.

While new layout is not a bad thing and it looks pretty good, I have some problems with it on my ipad. I liked old reader mode better (even with ad re-directs) as the new one won't show me the name of a doujin with a hyperlink back to comments section. I tried opening it in desktop mode but it made ads unskippable and just broke reader mode.
Second thing is forum avatars, they are WAY too big and because of that people's posts sometimes look messed up. Oh, and the signature section is "sticking out" from posts sometimes. But other from these things, everything is great. Thanks for your hardwork!

It definitely is better then the last one. It look good the bar is not to big. Not much to complain about. But would still like a desktop version because I like to see others avatars.l,but you are definitely going the right way with the layout.