System for Mute Certain Tags and Artists

Hello,

I searched for a topic in this forum but couldn't find something similar like that - so I I will open a new one.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a system that you can actually block certain tags, or artist?

Like for exmaple the artist "doxy". Personaly speaking I don't like this artist style at all and don't want to see any content from him in the feature since they don't fit my taste (also personaly I think western cartonist don't have much a place here if the style isn't even like the one of Japanese - but thats only personally).

That would go for tags as well. Don't like oppai? - mute and so on.

It would be nice to have some sort of such system in the near future of this website. Since the tastes are very different, so the content, I can at least view what I want to see and mute what I dislike.

Just an fyi there will be more western art on here over time. Not to say it will eclipse the Japanese hentai that will be released, but western art is something that fakku wishes to promote since hentai isn't exclusive to Japan only. There are amazing artists all around the world that release great content. Also gives them a chance to grow as artists.

I get you don't like them personally and that's fine, you don't have to (same as I'm not a fan of Attack on Titan or MLP). I just feel it's an insult to say western artists shouldn't be given a chance and are compared to Japanese artists in such a way. Artists don't want to be the same and some pride themselves on being different from Eastern based art; it shows individuality and creativity. Usually the artists don't mind feedback good or bad, but saying they aren't worth being on here because it isn't Japanese art is disrespectful (or rather just sad to hear people actually say). Doesn't help the artist grow in any way.

Maybe that what fakku wants to do. Sure why not. It's also nice for the artist. But sadly I just don't like the different style.

It's not a real insult if I just don't want to see western artist do their own design. No, but personaly speaking I just don't like much any other comic adult content like the Japanese style.

I have seen a lot of western stuff and most of them were bad. So I went with mute/ignore them since they are just not my taste.

Also I never said they are not worth of not being on fakku.

Fakku is for me more a Japanese Style themed adult comic website (which they also have that books and magazines right now). Even if Fakku wants to change that (which is okay if they want to support different artists) I want also a working system where I can mute certain things, exp. artist or tags.

PS:
Doxy has some nice stuff (sometimes) but all uploaded here are 0 my taste.

Edit:
Also when a Japanese suddenly draws MLP or whatever kind of western cartoon even in Japanese style, I won't like it.
Also why so harsh on being that? I pay here a good amount of money and I think I can choose what I want and what I don't want. Since I think a system where I could select what I want to buy and what not wouldn't work here, I should have at least a mute function.

Its not about artists, its also about tags:
I hate NTR and I don't like guro at all - why should I still see them?
Thats all.

Simply a system that let me mute certain tags/artist. I mean, we already have a follow/favorite thing here going.

I never referred to the idea you wish to be considered and implemented. I honestly don't care about blocking/blacklisting things personally, so if others wish to chime in on that they can have at it. My main focus was this statement as quoted. As I said it's fine to say western art isn't your preference, but you did make the comment you don't think western art should be on here. A lot of western artists and non artists such as myself see this as an insult because you compare something without merit. To say you think the art style is bad is fine, to say you like the eastern art style is fine, but to say it isn't like another art style is an insult to an artist. The point being an artist strives for their own style, not the style set before them.

Also whether or not a person pays means nothing on posting in the forums since the forums are free to all. I just post my personal opinions much like you do. So take whatever I say with a grain of salt.

Maybe you need to chill a bit since you seem one of those western artist I dislike been shown here?
With beeing paid I mean I have this subs-feed monthly. Not forum wise.

Anyway it's my personal opinion, if you think thats harsh, unfair, bad comment, and so on, so be it.

I can make stick figures but no I'm not an artist lol. I like western art myself because it is different. Actually talk to a couple of different artists and they're nice people, they appreciate any feedback you give them good and bad. You seem to be missing the point of I'm trying to make. Also I'm not upset, just sad to see artists compared without critique. It's like someone saying you'll never be like so-and-so. You are basically saying you suck and I'm going to give you jack shit to improve on because X is superior. Basically a fuck you to the artist. Said my peace so I'm done.

How is wanting to hide artists you don't want to see 'insulting'? I'm getting my subscription again later in the year and I certainly don't want to see western artists on the main page.
So a way to hide part of the content, which you paid for already, but you don't like or don't want to see is good thing to have. Why are you against the customer having an option to do this is beyond me.
People will like whatever they will like, it's not really fakku place to force us to like something.

I've always thought systems like this really don't work in anyone's interest except those who are super hardcore against a specific tag or arist, and those people are the minority.

I know there are tags I used to not be into at all, but eventually I got suckered in by a manga that had art I really liked or something and I grew to see the appeal of the tag. If I had the ability to hide that tag that never would have happened and I'd be missing out on something I've grown to enjoy.

It also hurts the website. Fakku wants to have all the works here shown to a wide audience. Being able to guarantee a bigger number of potential viewers helps when trying to get new people on board. Why would an artist who primarily makes NTR works want to have their work on fakku if 40% of the people there block the tag and will never see their work in any capacity?

Basically my point is it's not as cut and dry of an issue as one might think. And these issues are before even bringing up the cost of implementing this type of system.

It's not, and this has not been implied either. It has only been said that it is insulting to the artists to say that these artists should not be here at all. That's quite a bit different from just hiding something outside your personal preferences.

I think you're making a choice to interpret that as "they don't belong here because they're shit" instead of "they don't belong here because they're western". Maybe he was under the impression the content here would be exclusively from Japan which is a fair assumption to make.
What absolutely makes no sense is not allowing users who pay to use the site to hide whatever content they don't want to see, be that western or a certain fetish the person is no interested.
Even free sites offer such services.


I don't see how limiting our personal ability to decide what we want or do not want to read works against our own interest.


That means you, Kcaz64, shouldn't hide any tags. This doesn't mean people shouldn't be able to do so. Deciding that nobody should because this way worked out better for you is just wanting to force your views on to others. People being able to hide whatever they want to hide doesn't limit you in any way shape or form, not allowing people to hide tags limit their ability to enjoy the site the way they want to.


As far as I'm concerned artists don't get paid based on views so that line of thinking doesn't really work. Also this wouldn't affect newcomers at all. A person would have to make a decision to hide the tag, it wouldn't be done so by default.

I don't interpret it as either way. And in the end it doesn't matter as they're here already anyway.

A tag blacklisting feature has been talked about for quite a while now and seems quite likely to be a future addition. I'm sure it would be easy to add artist blacklisting functionality to it as well.

No. Sadpanda or any other sites that use a tag system to mute or sort out is doing actually fine.

Let me write down a example since many of you saying it hurts the artist:
You are in your car or somewhere listen to radio. You hear a song and you don't like it. You have the option to skip the song or hear your favorite song.

You'll skip it to your favorite song.

Its like here. Why should I bother with any NTR story, when I despise the fact it exists? Since I can't change the fact that NTR is here - there is only one option for me: Mute/ignore.

Heck, even one of my favorute Mangaka Takeda Hiromutsu is drawing lately only NTR and even those I ignore.

I don't why its so bad when I just don't want see certain things.
Its better compared I go to the release, read the tag/artist name and say: "I don't like that" in the comments, right?

Or should we all now feel bad, when we skip a song/skip a ero manga because we don't like it?

Sure, you can try out new stuff - but because "veterans" know what they like, just let them be.

Fakku can show/release everything they want. But even if I buy a Japan Ero Manga Tankubon, and I see there is NTR story/artist I don't like - I skip it. Thats it. I just want a filter here. Nothing else.

(NTR is only a example [but yeah I dislike NTR])

I would just like to add that even though I personally don't find western art appealing at all I'm glad that they are here as well. It would be really shortsighted of me to want to hurt others enjoyment of subscription content just because it doesn't please me.


I hope so, a solution to this particular problem would be a western tag but a artist blacklist would be a more permanent solution.

I quite like this as well, if only for the reason that as Fakku is working with Japanese publishers, this could someday lead to western artists published by Fakku have some chapters published by the Japanese partners as well. Seeing how Fakku skateboards have already managed to find their way to the Japanese magazines as well, it should not be impossible for a good enough western artist to someday have a chance too.

You'd be surprised how often taking away the ability to do what people think they want actually helps them get what they actually want. Look at how fakku has such a small number of tags. Maybe I want more tags (which I do), but fakku has taken the stance that having a ton of tags is confusing and harms the user (even if they think they want more).

At the end of the day I think it's good to give people what they want, if only because it makes people feel valued. But while "the customer is always right", sometimes they still shoot themselves in the foot. This is a bit more of a complicated topic than I'd rather get into here though.



I explained why. A feature like that lowers the number of people who will see the work, making working with fakku less appealing (as a smaller number of people would see the work). I don't know how big of an effect this would have, admittedly, but I doubt it's completely zero. And yes, from a business perspective, you looking at something and skipping it is better than you never seeing at all.

It's not like I don't see where you're coming from. I totally get why you'd want a feature like that. I'm just trying to explain that it's not as simple an issue as you might think.

I don't really like this patronizing way of thinking. Even if you personally believe that people are making a bad choice it is their choice to make. I don't think I want that feature, I want that feature. I would want that feature even if I didn't want to blacklist a single thing here the same way I want Fakku to sign up every artist they possibly can even if I'll only enjoy 10% of them.
I don't get to decide the best way others can or should enjoy something.

P.S. I sincerely doubt artists are paid by the number of views their galleries get.

This topic has been brought up a few times and I believe it's been stated that a blacklist of tags/artists would not be implemented on the homepage.

The search function has a feature in which you can include/exclude tags. I'm not sure if there are plans to work on a more advanced search system or to add features to it though.
+ to include
- to exclude

For the home page issue. If you subscribe to block a tag it should come out red like if i subscribed to notify 'crossdressing' it comes up Crossdressing on the homepage chapter tag.


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Why force users to see content they don't want to see? I can understand forcing the experience of free users to be a certain way but I can't imagine why you would do that to the customers. Why not let them chose the best way to experience the site?
Plus a search with just -tag doesn't work at all, at least not for me.

The more I think about it, the more I think the answer I gave was actually about a blacklist of all subscription and book content from the homepage. My bad.

You're right, looks like you need at least one +tag for it to work. +Uncensored -tag would be the work around.

I really don't have a strong opinion on whether or not this feature exists as seeing two thumbnails of content that I wouldn't read never killed my boner.

If something was implemented, I like freaks example. Maybe replace the thumbnails with Momoka or something.