Ayulsa City - Ieeya
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mibuchiha wrote...
And here's me surprised that you had to point this out. I thought my posts implied this very clearly.I personally think that using the word "imply" and "clearly" in the same sentence is pretty oxymoronic...and that has been the case with the posts I've read so far. o.o
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ImperialX wrote...
Asphodel wrote...
Just being there physically doesn't mean they're helpful. And just because your online friends aren't with you doesn't mean they aren't helpful. Just saiyan.If you lose your house in a fire, will an Internet friend offer you a shelter? If you need a job, can an Internet friend be your reference on your resume? When you're in emotional turmoil, do you want to read PMs on a forums, or talk with a someone face to face?
Never have I said that online friends aren't helpful, I'm just saying that real life should have priority.
Yes, but you did say they can't help you with real life issues, material and psychological and that's bull. An internet friend can and will and has offered me shelter, not from a burnt down house, but from an abusive mother. Or is that not a serious real life issue? And yes, anyone can be a reference on a resume provided you have their personal information ready to fill out and they are okay with it. As for my emotional turmoil, I received help from both people in real life and online. Help is help. The medium by which it is provided makes no difference to me, nor should it. Maybe for some people it would be better for a face to face, but I'm sure for some people it doesn't make much of a difference. Or it could even be easier to open themselves up to and talk to someone they don't know physically.
So I don't see how only real life friends and family can help with "real life" issues. As far as I'm concerned, that is just simply not true and I'm offended because your argument is belittling the value of friendship just because someone is only known through the internet and not known face to face. That's bullshit.
Edited for typos.
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
ImperialX wrote...
mibuchiha wrote...
And here's me surprised that you had to point this out. I thought my posts implied this very clearly.I personally think that using the word "imply" and "clearly" in the same sentence is pretty oxymoronic...and that has been the case with the posts I've read so far. o.o
Now that you mention it, it's true. But yeah, I dunno how to say it without making it an oxymoron, but I certainly feel that the importance of rl is clearly stated in my posts. I'm simply against dismissing things only because they're deemed unimportant. We never know how the world chooses to give us a chance, so I prefer to keep my choices open.
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Asphodel wrote...
Yes, but you did say they can't help you with real life issues, material and psychological and that's bull. An internet friend can and will and has offered me shelter, not from a burnt down house, but from an abusive mother. Or is that not a serious real life issue? And yes, anyone can be a reference on a resume provided you have their personal information ready to fill out and they are okay with it. As for my emotional turmoil, I received help from both people in real life and online. Help is help. The medium by which it is provided makes no difference to me, nor should it. Maybe for some people it would be better for a face to face, but I'm sure for some people it doesn't make much of a difference. Or it could even be easier to open themselves up to and talk to someone they don't know physically. So I don't see how only real life friends and family can help with "real life" issues. As far as I'm concerned, that is just simply not true and I'm offended because your argument is belittling the value of friendship just because someone is only known through the internet and not known face to face. That's bullshit.
Alright, firstly I'll apologize for having offended you. That was not my intension, and you have my repentance.
Please understand that anything that I post outside of Serious Discussions represent my personal opinions and are not referenced arguments for a specified moot (unless otherwise stated), so if you have a different opinion, it is not my role to falsify it. Perhaps that will make it seem less offensive.
My views on Internet friendship is without a doubt biased, because there I have placed Internet friendships on par with real life ones before, but this trust has been betrayed by some people. In one example, that person and I was just talking one day, and the second day he disappeared without a trace, without any warning or explanation, and I never saw him again. It was a reminder how how fragile Internet friendships can be.
Real life friends can betray you, but from what I see, real life friendships when solidified are much harder to break than removing someone from MSN, Skype or deleting a forum account.
I think you really should post in this SD thread: https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=89452 What you've said are really valuable viewpoints, and I'd love to see it compiled into a post with a SD nature.
mibuchiha wrote...
Now that you mention it, it's true. But yeah, I dunno how to say it without making it an oxymoron, but I certainly feel that the importance of rl is clearly stated in my posts. I'm simply against dismissing things only because they're deemed unimportant. We never know how the world chooses to give us a chance, so I prefer to keep my choices open.Yup. I never said I don't give Internet life a chance. I'm still active on the Internet - it just so happens I'm not so active on FAKKU anymore. I'm now mostly active in the Anime blogosphere, Twitter's anime community and Head-Fi. I have a lot of Internet friends. I just don't place them on the same importance and trust as I do with real life friends.
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Eh, it's alright. I'm already over it. I'm glad that's cleared up though, so thanks. I can appreciate your bias. It makes sense and it understandable given your circumstances.
As for the posting in SD, you can adopt what I said or cut it or quote or what have you. SD isn't really my place. I'm glad you hold that opinion though.
As for the posting in SD, you can adopt what I said or cut it or quote or what have you. SD isn't really my place. I'm glad you hold that opinion though.
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
And that's where the differences lie. I don't determine the importance of a friend solely by rl or online. Some of my friends online know more of me than my casual friends. My bros irl are more important than those online friends, ofc. And there's luv too, to me she's a real lover, she knows me very much, even things I didn't know about myself before. Sure she's only online for now, which is why I intend to have her in my rl when I can.
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Fallan
Kamen Rider Cheeki
Asphodel wrote...
It's okay Shiki. We're still bros.maximus bromo fistius
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mibuchiha wrote...
Surprisingly. ~.~i would've always taken you as more stoic and serious, but you have a sensitive, contemplative side to you as well. i like it about you~
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
Well, I do think I'm quite serious. But that's because I'm also sensitive. ~.~