[Locked] Grow up.

QFT.

Will say for sure that I have heard a staff member say to me that the system is broken. This needs to be fixed. Think people need to start throwing ideas out there.

Waar, how about if you really want to be the representative of this community, you be the "bigger man" and just not reply to ay of this? It takes two to tango, you know. You are just as responsible for the shit this topic has turned into as anyone else.

perhaps you're right... It's just a shame that I have to defend myself to this point when I really had nothing to do with what he is actually arguing with. I mean, I honestly believe he and I are on the same side in this debate and it's my wording which he objects to.

There was a debate in the first place? I thought you two were on the same sides from the start.

We were, for the most part I agree with most of you, I do believe uploaders should gain rep, and whether I value rep differently or not is of no consequence in this debate. We should just attempt to go back to the original topic at hand; how to better the forums for everyone.

All we have to do is follow one rule: if your comment is flaming someone else, then don't comment.

Honestly, you know if your comment is hurting someone or not. If everyone can follow that, I can guarantee this will forum will instantly become a better place. Too bad this isn't possible.

I still say fostering better communication is a helpful way since we all want the same thing.

I'd just like to say that I do not dislike Klown or anybody with a very high rep count. I was simply positing a possibility, that a situation could occur where someone was an asshole yet was still able to have a high rep count if he/she uploaded stuff, which might lead to some confusion, especially among new members. I do not believe that there are currently any members like that on Fakku.



I'm not sure everybody wants the same thing. In fact, I'm not sure what it is that everybody wants. All I know is that I want a friendly forum without a ton of hostility.

If we want to get everybody on the same page, then we need to find out what everybody wants, in detail. Do people want less hostility but the ability to still poke fun at one another? That might work, but it could lead to misunderstandings. So, do people want a good place to talk and would be willing to eliminate any kind of negative talk to gain such? I know a lot of people wouldn't want that.

Yes, we do need better communication, we do need people to think more before posting, but what exactly is our aim? To never hurt anybody? To be able to say things that might hurt another user, but it's okay because the user won't fly off the deep end?

since for uploads people give rep as a mean of thanking the uploader, why not just use the same format as hongfire did? (the row of usernames thanking specific post, don't call it 'rep', call it 'thanks', make it only applicable to uploads or something)

but... does the rep count really matter? if people stay on the forums long enough, they would eventually realise that an ass is an ass, even if they were to have a high rep count.<-I AM NOT TRYING TO IMPLY THAT ANY PERSON WITH HIGH REP COUNT IS AN ASS, just trying to make a point that rep points does not define the user. similarly, if you feel you have a share in the community and spend enough time here you would come to know the users by the way they usually act, at that point in time, the points prolly wouldnt matter.

and err... i didnt read through the 20 pages. just giving my opinion here

omg this is still going? Well in my opinion people should be already responsible enough to handle their reps. It's sad to see people misuse it but it's their right. Umm... as I see it now the forum actually says what post the person got repped for or derepped for anyway so the community can be the judge if it was just or immature. And as for making this forum a better community, I am not too sure if there's a proper formula on this since the term better is very abstract. I can say less trolls but it would be very gray without them if they disappear completely. So I think we should experiment with solutions and see what works. As for uploaders getting repped I don't mind. They deserve it in my opinion, also the admins also get reps for their uploads which is basically the same thing right? The only difference is theirs get on the main interface of the site.

I never said it did. Someone said a statement, and I backed up his claim that it could happen. Nothing more.

That's in your opinion, of course. I just feel that getting 30 and some change rep for taking a download from somewhere else, putting your name on it, and uploading it is fucking ridiculous.

I think you're the only one that sees this "jealousy". I simply used him as an example because he was the first to come to mind. If you have another example, then by all means, do share.

So you support my statement. Thanks!

Now, that's just wrong, and now your indirectly speaking that the fakku admins is fucking ridiculous for uploading ALL the stuff that are in the site now.

Seriously, we "uploaders" will never ever claim anything that we upload are ours.
and we never ask "Give me some rep" (well there is one person though...lol )

it's usually like this:
"Here I found this good "manga/anime/game for you guys. If you think you're interested feel free to download."

Fakku won't be here if there was no uploads and feedback in any kind of shape. And in my case of uploading, I always Upload old games, that you won't be able to find now. and call it preservation.

Seriously, try uploading and feel the "feedback" for yourself. Don't start calling anything ridiculous if you have never tried it before. Nut if you ever decided too upload, please upload it properly.

Umm I have to agree on kai on this one sorry TMS. But unless you're asking for someone to upload an original game, all user uploads are like that including the admin. They find something nice which was made by LEAF of whatever company from a source and they upload it. Other than that there's no other way to share. Then it's up to the users to rep them if they want right?

Yes, but now we're just back to my first point: "I think there should be a limit on how much rep one can receive or lose for a post."

Good job on insulting all the uploaders on this site, and on every other site too for that matter

You do realize that except for the small amount of peope in japan that torrents these kinds of games/vids/doujins everyone is "reuploading".
Maybe all uploaders should just stop what they're doing so we can all go torrent for the sake of justice~
I know alot of the people living in dorms, who's unable to use torrents etc, that would be totally delighted over that.

Except for Mechgouki no one in in the upload-section ever asks for rep, if people choose to give it to us as a sign of appreciation then that's their choice, and nobody should judge them for that, if you think that's bullshit then tough shit for you my friend.

Oh and btw, im pretty sure most of us uploaders leave the original uploader's ReadMe.txt, where he has his name and the site where the file originally came from, in our uploads.
Just because we don't write his name all ove our threads doesn't mean we don't give him credit.

Uploaders are a great help to downloaders. Umm... a scenario might help. You're looking for a game that may already be dead or long forgotten. These games are rare even in the internet. Uploaders are the source that would help you in this situation. Like finding gold in a coal mine that's a good way to describe the feeling. Finding these games to upload is a HARD task. They still need to check for bugs, viruses, and other stuff that might be harmful to downloaders. So in my opinion they deserve every rep they get as tokens of appreciation.

And in my opinion, a few rep should be enough. It's not like rep does anything but make people think they're better than others already.

I've seen many instances where the person edits the readme file. And I never said it wasn't helpful, I said it wasn't worth of 30 rep per post.

You people are fucking ridiculous; he's talking about the rep they get for the uploads not the fucking uploads.

Let's all remember that this is just his fucking opinion and it's perfectly fine that you criticize his opinion, but don't get all indignant as if he just dissed all the fucking uploaders.

umm... who thinks that they're inferior to people with huge rep? Isn't that their take? Shouldn't they be mature enough to not feel that way?

That's not what I said, I infact said the complete opposite. Many people with higher rep feel they are better than those with lower rep.