HappyDia01 wrote...
chronotrigger666 wrote...
HappyDia01 wrote...
Get a divorce.
That I can't do... I want to prove myself to her and show her how much I love her.
I wanted to leave saying that alone, but the more I thought about this the more outraged I've become. I've seen your wife around the forums, and although we haven't spoken personally... she has always come across as being very sweet, very doting upon you, and even posted for advice on how to "seduce" you. In retrospect, this all fucking pisses me off. Not only did you betray her trust ONCE, but NUMEROUS TIMES... You got married to this woman. You made a VOW to her. In this life, a wife and a husband are supposed to support one another - be the rock for the other to find foundation upon. You are supposed to protect your wife come hell and high water, and what did you do? You became that hell for your wife.
And then you tried to turn it around on her - blaming your betrayal on supposed faults that she had just to avoid how fucked up you are. Not one blow to the chest, but two - that's what you gave your wife. You lead her to believe that those things you were doing, your SELFISHNESS, your PROBLEMS... were her problems. I can't imagine anything more cruel then to lead the "love of your life" (as you say) to think that what you've done is her fault and hers alone. But that wasn't enough for you. You had to go a step further. You'd already compromised the santity of your marriage for complete STRANGERS, but you made a victim of your wife for one.
The filming of your sex... The INTIMACY of an act of love... I'm just so outraged that I can hardly form my words. She gave you her body, showed you her love, and you just willingly gave that up making her into a peep show whore. Your WIFE. To me, this is unforgivable. I think you should just die. Even now, you don't truly care about your wife's feelings... you just don't want to deal with the daily guilt. You want to quickly rid yourself of the reminder, so that you can go back to doing what you're doing without having to face the consequences. You even posted it up here in fluffy bullshit words so that your wife would see it, and be fooled into thinking that the person you're really concerned about is her. It's not. It hasn't been up until now, and I doubt it'll be after.
I plead with her to realise that there are men out there a thousand times better then you. Who will love her, remain faithful to her, and would never ever betray her... who wouldn't ruin not only her faith in her husband, her faith in the marriage, but her faith that the marital bed would stay between those in the marriage. To you sir, I say FUCK OFF. Before children are involved, seriously... go fuck off.
I'm not even going to argue with you because you're right, and there's absolutely no doubt that she can find a guy who's way better than me. Hell, even now she's got guys who are pretty crazy about her that could really make her happy and provide her with a good life, but for some reason, she says she loves me and she wants to do everything she can to make this work. Going through counseling is my last chance to show her how much she means to me. And yes, I am guilty and ashamed and want it to end, but it's not just for my sake. I really do care for her, and I never want to hurt her again, honest...
SeriousSAM wrote...
how old are you to be this dumb?
if you fall back into what you've been doing after the counseling, your wife is better off divorcing you. because you as a person dont know what they want out of a relationship especially when you're going through the net starting online relationship. also it seem form the very beginning you never really cared about the relationship and just wanted the company and by marrying her you had it in your mind that she'll be by your side forever not to grow old with, only just so you wont be alone.
I'm 25 going on 26 this year... I met her when I was 22 almost 23... And I admit that I've been such an asshole, but it's not true that I don't care for her. I'd do anything for her, even die.... She has asked me before too, if I really love her or if I'm just with her because I feel guilty or lonely, and if I was really happy with her, and when she asked that I just felt like this huge hole was in my chest because I DO love her more than anything, and I hate that I made her doubt me so much... But it's like they say, you reap what you sow...
LustfulAngel wrote...
HappyDia01 wrote...
chronotrigger666 wrote...
HappyDia01 wrote...
Get a divorce.
That I can't do... I want to prove myself to her and show her how much I love her.
I wanted to leave saying that alone, but the more I thought about this the more outraged I've become. I've seen your wife around the forums, and although we haven't spoken personally... she has always come across as being very sweet, very doting upon you, and even posted for advice on how to "seduce" you. In retrospect, this all fucking pisses me off. Not only did you betray her trust ONCE, but NUMEROUS TIMES... You got married to this woman. You made a VOW to her. In this life, a wife and a husband are supposed to support one another - be the rock for the other to find foundation upon. You are supposed to protect your wife come hell and high water, and what did you do? You became that hell for your wife.
And then you tried to turn it around on her - blaming your betrayal on supposed faults that she had just to avoid how fucked up you are. Not one blow to the chest, but two - that's what you gave your wife. You lead her to believe that those things you were doing, your SELFISHNESS, your PROBLEMS... were her problems. I can't imagine anything more cruel then to lead the "love of your life" (as you say) to think that what you've done is her fault and hers alone. But that wasn't enough for you. You had to go a step further. You'd already compromised the santity of your marriage for complete STRANGERS, but you made a victim of your wife for one.
The filming of your sex... The INTIMACY of an act of love... I'm just so outraged that I can hardly form my words. She gave you her body, showed you her love, and you just willingly gave that up making her into a peep show whore. Your WIFE. To me, this is unforgivable. I think you should just die. Even now, you don't truly care about your wife's feelings... you just don't want to deal with the daily guilt. You want to quickly rid yourself of the reminder, so that you can go back to doing what you're doing without having to face the consequences. You even posted it up here in fluffy bullshit words so that your wife would see it, and be fooled into thinking that the person you're really concerned about is her. It's not. It hasn't been up until now, and I doubt it'll be after.
I plead with her to realise that there are men out there a thousand times better then you. Who will love her, remain faithful to her, and would never ever betray her... who wouldn't ruin not only her faith in her husband, her faith in the marriage, but her faith that the marital bed would stay between those in the marriage. To you sir, I say FUCK OFF. Before children are involved, seriously... go fuck off.
Ouch Dia-chan. Harsh truth is harsh, but if I'm to be honest if I were to go about this logically I would agree with her. I'll put it much more softly: Right now, you're not really in a position to love her. Right now, you're dealing with guilt and a bunch of emotional baggage. And ontop of that, I think that it might've been much too soon for your marriage. You're probably maybe 1-2 years older than me at best(I'm 19; going 20 March 6th).
Right now, you still wanna party and do the college thing and all of that(and I'm not saying that's a bad thing.) I blame it on the emphasis that's being put on marriage to sort of counteract the free lancing of sex that occurred in the late 80's-90's. It was and is very possible to have a long-term committed relationship as just being boyfriend and girlfriend.
I run the risk in this case of the argument that "You're a guy, you're sticking up for your fellow men." Yes and no, what you've done(the OP) is pretty incredibly stupid and as a romantist I can't say I condone it. But I understand it, that being said you have to make a decision: Is she your WIFE? That is to say, is she a woman you love to the point where you're willing to give your body and soul for her? If so, then I think we owe you and your wife the respect to try to continue to work it out.
If not, then you owe her the respect to say: I've fucked up pretty badly to the point where it's irreversible and to keep you from hurting anymore, I think it's best we go our separate ways.
If you do choose that, firstly props to you. Secondly: Don't do the divorce, the divorce courts I've heard are pretty expensive. An adult with more experience than me might be able to find a way to end the marriage without the hassle and money loss.
She is the woman I want to spend the rest of my life with. There's no one else I'd want to do that with. I'd give her ANYTHING, all she has to do is ask... So I'm going to do anything I can to make it work...
Gravity cat wrote...
I'm afraid to say it, but everyone who's posted before me is right. No wait, no I'm not. You my dear sir, are a total cunt and you don't deserve your wife.
I read the thread your wife made about you that Freaky posted, and she seems so sweet. She must be a Saint to be as patient with you as she has been, and for so long judging by your individual stories. I would personally kill for someone like that and you've so far shown to be nothing but a complete prick. You've contacted girls outside of the relationship numerous times, made excuses for your actions and covering up your insecurities by blaming her for things she hasn't actually done, and what really breaks my heart is that she took what you said and did actually blame herself for
your actions.
By the sounds of it, you have
alot of underlying confidence issues, which makes you feel the need to feel wanted all the time, but when your devoted and loyal wife gives you the attention that you crave, you quickly get bored of it and look elsewhere. If that's the case, you should never have even gotten into a relationship with her, much less get married to her, in the first place because you don't seem like the type of person who can just settle down with what he has and commit himself 100% to the relationship and his life partner. Your problem is that this need to "feel wanted" and the feeling of "forbidden love" (or rather, 5 minutes of lust) over the internet is slowly tearing you both apart and you still don't see how much it's actually affecting her, especially after showing a complete stranger on the internet a sex tape of you and your wife during coitus, which she wasn't aware was being recorded at the time. I mean for fucks sake, she's crying in bed at night because of you.
I guess credit where it's due though, you know you have a problem, but it's one thing to acknowledge that you have a problem, but it's another thing to actually
do something about it.
Oh, that's not my wife who posted that thread that that one guy linked. My wife on here actually goes by crazymissotaku.
Edit: She's the opposite of the girl who posted that in the sense that she's an awesome cook and never once nagged at me for anything. She's really sweet and always thinking of me and is kind to a fault, really.... A lot of people say she's the perfect girl.