New Problem. Needs help,

I will admit that I am to lazy to check your facts about the actual increase/decrease in loading/battery time. But while I still think that 10 sec. off a 50 sec. boot time is a lot, then the point is that regardless of the measurable performance increase, then a laptop with a 7200rpm HD will just generally feel allot more responsive and faster, equaling a much better experience while using the laptop.
And regarding the power consumption, then that will always depend on manufacture and quality, so if you end up buying a better quality 7200rpm you might have an equal or lower power consumption.

Regarding the two laptops suggested, then the Acer Aspire AS5536-5142 is the most gaming capable, as the ATI card will always trump an Intel card. But both laptops seems okay.

Ok I should be getting my grant check sat hopefully if not, then monday. I also think I found a better laptops than the ones I posted. Also should I extend the warrenty so that it covers physical damage?

Here they are:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220663R
This one is currently unavailable

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834157044R
This one has the 7200 rpm you spoke of. Also unavailable

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115674
This one is available. I just wanted more memory

Its alright, but if you look at it, you only have 160GB of hard drive space, and 3GB of 667(slow) memory, and the processor is only 1.6GHz, and that is pretty low. However, if you are tight on cash, you probably won't find much better out there.

This one looks pretty good, one of the new Athlon II X2 chips paired with 4100 Radeon graphics (which isn't very good, but it is sure better than the Intel 4500HD and Radeon 3200)
TOSHIBA Satellite L505D-LS5010 NoteBook AMD Athlon II M300(2.0GHz) 15.6" 4GB Memory DDR2 800 250GB HDD 5400rpm DVD Super Multi ATI Radeon 4100 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114789
Its $500, and the reviews on other sites are quite positive.

May I note that Idk how to take a laptop apart since my Hardware support class only worked on Desktops. My teacher said I quote " Laptops wire small and you may end up snapping the wires"
I like the lenovo but Ive never heard of it before so I didn't want to take the risk. And what does open box mean? That it is like right out of the box not used?

Lenovo is a popular chinese manufacturer, generally they make stable laptops. Also yeah, you are right, you don't want to take apart you laptop, cause not only is it more fragile, but it also voids any warranty you have.

Open box means someone bought the product before you, and then returned it (generally because it wasn't what they wanted). All parts are made sure that they are in working condition, and then it is re-shelved, but because its already been used once, it's therefore a used computer.

EDIT: another option
Then there's this one, (way over budget, but definitely worth considering)
MSI A6005-201US Notebook PC - Intel Core 2 Duo T6600 2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB 5400RPM HDD, DVDRW, 16" Display Radeon 4330 , Windows 7 Home Premium $550
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5254389&Sku=M455-16004
When you look at this, its actually quite a powerhouse, has a graphics unit more powerful than the laptop in mine, and I've played left4dead 2 on this laptop (on extremely low settings, but it was playable). Really, if you don't have a desktop to play games on, this is a great compromise. The processor is competent, and it has wireless N. I would have bought this laptop, if I didn't buy the one I had now.

Ahhh good I wont take it apart. Also....do they have good customer service?

EDIT: That one seems nice I may get it but idk thats sorta alot. Hmmm I was planning on getting a new controller from newegg since my square button sticks at moments. Hmmm and I also wanted an iTouch.

It doesn't look like they have the best customer service, just from what I have learned from a simple Google search. Most people should be fine, but then again, it doesn't look like their customer service would be that great.

I tried looking for that laptop but to no avail. Ugh this is all give me all a headache. The only online game I play atm is Maple Story so those laptops might be overkill for it. But then again I wanted to be able to boss on the laptop. $550 is a bit too much for me that and i cant find it. If I get extra money I may get it.

Something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFI1qSyl9XM

EDIT: I want to be able to do something like that. I hear that people d/c because of it

But those last $50 is still well spent, since the laptop suggested is miles apart from anything else suggested in this thread.

Also, to clarify, Lenovo is the former IBM laptop branch so they make very stable laptops and are usually a guaranty that you are buying quality (they do tend to be a bit pricey though). And even though I 100% agree that it is not a good idea to open you laptop, then a lenovo is what you want if you want to try doing it, since (unlike most other laptops) it is not just a piece of plastic you need to brake to even make the attempt..

You can do the stuff in the youtube video with the last few laptops suggested.

Well I need two things to happen. One thats simple and one thats difficult.
1. Find the page where the laptop is so i can add it to my cart. (the $550 one.)
2. Juggle some stuff around so I can get it.

Oh, completely sorry about that (I thought I put it in). Here it is:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5254389&Sku=M455-16004

I am not pressuring you to buy it, especially if a computer isn't the only thing on your list. But here is something to lower the price just a little bit.

I just found a good option again, and BCB (Bing Cash Back, see above) can be done with this:
Gateway NV5207U Refurbished Notebook PC - AMD Athlon 64 X2 QL-65 2.1GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HDD, DVDRW, 15.6" LED, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5633769&CatId=17
Only $404 with BCB. Same size hard drive, same amount of RAM, this is a good option if you want to make room for your iPod Touch and other stuff without sacrificing capability. And you are right, you don't need that graphics and processing power to play the RPG you have been playing, so this is a great option for you too.

It's a refurb, but that pretty much means that the computer has been returned and properly fixed, and polished up. Refurbished products generally look brand new, and look indistinguishable from new products. They have a limited warranty too, so in case it fails in the first week of use, you can have it fixed at no cost to you.

Sweet. OMFG Idk how I forgot about tiger direct. Well now I can start looking again after some drama with my college. Imma look at the $404 since those 2 are basically the same (arn't they?).


EDIT: Just thought about this. How is Gateway customer service? I remember hearing back in the day their CS was horrible. Also im so falling in love with this laptop. It has a mic AND a webcam. This is a very amazing laptop. Maybe I can find better headphones and PS3 controller on here too. Now if they have great customer service then I'm in love.
Meh im going to get them from newegg. The headphones and controller

I have no experience with their customer service, and Internet reviews are incredibly biased (because people only post about problems on the Internet). From what I could extract, they are alright, some people just have complaints against them, like "Oh they couldn't solve my problem" or "I had to wait to get my laptop back". If you have an issue, they will probably handle it to acceptable standards.

The warranty is 3 months, which isn't incredible, but it should be long enough that if there are any early problems, you can get them fixed.

Oh and to answer your question, "Are those basically the same?"
The hard drive and ammount of RAM is identical, but the processor, and graphics on the other one are a bit more powerful in the MSI over the Gateway (along with the RAM being a tiny bit slower too). However, on the plus side, the cheaper one actually has an LED-Backlit screen which is nice too.

That sounds perfect. If there anything else I should get with my laptop so that I can use it effciently? Should I get a portable hard drive? I have a micro fiber cloth and some stuff to clean it.

Well you have a 320GB hard drive, so I can't imagine getting a portable hard drive right now. Maybe as you start to really fill it, you might consider getting a portable hard drive, but you don't need to get one now.

One thing I would consider getting if you don't already have one would be a laptop case, or a backpack that accommodates a laptop.Other than that, everything else is secondary, ie. portable wireless mouse, headphones (you probably have a pair lying around) etc. A mouse might be important if you don't like using a trackpad, but I have been fine without using a mouse.

Really, if you have a backpack (or shoulder bag, whatever you prefer) that can carry a laptop, you don't need to buy any extra accessories.

I got a wireless mouse. I got a init laptop bag. Im buying these headphones
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106306

But GameON said these were better.
http://www.amazon.com/JVC-HARX700-High-Grade-Full-Size-Headphone/dp/B0013OWPV4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1263917867&sr=8-1
I would but that would mean I would have 3 diff sites delivering to my house. And idk why but thats strange and maybe inconvinence to me.

I do not know what kind of delivery service amazon or newegg has, but I would suggest you to get the JVC, since that kind of headphones with big wire over the head part usually is REALLY comfortable compared to other types of headphones.

really? Interesting......I hope that laptop will still be on sale by sat or monday or else ill be a sad person

I really do hope you can get it. If you are sure to have the money by Monday you can just buy the laptop Friday, since the credit company wont be able to withdraw the money until Monday (next business day). If you do this you might also be able to get the laptop earlier :)

Well the thing it the grant check doesn't come direct deposit. It comes throught the mail then I got to the bank across the street from me and cash it then go to my credit union and put it in my checking account