Would you do the same thing?

I may have pissed one of our department managers off tonight but you know what I don't really care he said something to me that bothered me and I confronted him about it. I'm on break and I'm getting a six pack of soda, one of the cans falls and bust. I tell the guy stocking near that I'm on break and if it's still there when I get back I'll clean it up. Well shit happens and I don't get to it right away, because I have to give the only cashier there break. JH I'll just use his initials starts bitching at me and says "your momma don't work her so you need to clean up after yourself" That pissed me off on so many levels. One I have a personal issue of your momma things directed at me from when I was in Primary School, and two, I do clean up after myself. Well I asked the guy running U-Scan to watch the register for me, I get a mop cursing under my breath, every other word clean it up. Go find JH and say I got it cleaned up, and I would appreciate it if you don't say something like that to me again. he starts going into that it was not about my momma and I tell him I understand I just don't appreciate it, and walked off without saying another word. When he was leaving he gave me a funny look that I just let slide because I know I pissed him off for telling him what to do.

So here is what I want to know would have you done the same in this situation?

You handled it pretty calmly. I guess it would depend on my mood, if I was feeling half-way tired I would have simply nodded and cleaned the damn mess to avoid further altercations. I do know that some managers think they are tiny gods and take pleasure in making your life a living hell if you dare talk back to them. If someone had done that to me yesterday, there is a good chance I wouldn't have a job anymore. I was in a really pissed-off mood (I'm not going to get into why), and had someone gotten into my face with that shit, I would have gone off on them and it might have eventually turned into a screaming match. Never a good thing at your place of employment. You probably did the right thing, but watch your back dude.

meh, you made a mistake and didn't rectify when you should have... his choice of words were poor in that he probably didn't know you had an issue with it but it's your personal issue; the rest of the world doesn't give a shit about your personal shit. Also, the mom comment had nothing to do with your mother, it was directly related to your work ethic; regardless if he's wrong about you; you took offense; to the wrong part I might add, simply because he mentioned your mother which is a weakness... Get over your problems and move on.

Wow, you solved this quite calmly.

I probably would've gotten fired with what I would've said XD

If that's the way you want to see things but then my work ethic is as follows. I do my damn job, there is nothing in my employee hand book that makes me do anything when I'm on my break. And as I stated Shit happens, I could not get to it immediately after I got off my break. He had no reason to get pissed off because I couldn't do it right then and there in the first place. That's his mistake. And where I work, it's general rule of thumb that if you have something to say to another person you work with say it. He made a jab at my work ethic, one that had no reason to be made, by a manager at least. I confronted him about it, If he has something to say about my work ethic then say something. don't make comments like your momma's not here to clean up after you. That is the way I see it. I would have probably not said anything if he didn't hit a touchy subject on my part.

As a side not I would like to add, I give little respect to people who act like they are above me. You may be my senior and superior, but you are not above me on a human level. If you treat me with dignity, and confront me directly I will be polite about it but when you make a remark that has nothing to do with the subject at hand, and it happens to be a touchy subject, possibly for anyone(My mother could have been dead for all he knew). I will confront you about it and ask you not to say something like that again.

Much worse could have been said, which would have resulted in me being fired, but I remained calm.

oh please Angelus... grow up... this is the real world, not everyone thinks of you as you want them to. I don't know either of you nor do I know the situation but he could believe you have a lax work ethic. I wasn't there so I only have your account of the situation to go one but as I see it; you're being overly sensitive about something dumb. He didn't say ANYTHING negative about your mother and you're an idiot for interpreting it that way. As a manager it's his job to bitch at you when things aren't done, that's how every job works; if you don't like it quit... but there aren't many jobs out there where you don't have to answer to someone. As far as him acting above you... in a sense he is; he's your boss... you have to do what he says when he says and as long as he doesn't break the rules (which he didn't) you can't complain... well you can but it will fall on deaf ears. I don't see the relation to your mother possibly being dead and him saying she's not going to clean up after you... You're coming off as a bit of a overly sensitive child...

People don't really ever want advice, they never really want your opinion; they only want their actions/opinions to be confirmed by others. When you asked: "would you do the same thing?" you don't really want the truth... what you're really asking is: "I was right eh? that guy was an idiot and totally over the line" and if you get someone who didn't agree with you it's more like: "You don't agree? fuck you then; you're an idiot". I don't give you much credit most of the time Angelus, in fact most of the time I'm enamored by how dense you can be(not always), but I expected more from you when I saw this... I expected perhaps you might open your eyes and see reality in this situation... Yet again I'm disappointed by you.

What I'm saying should in no way be taken as an insult, it's simply the facts as I see them; ignore them if you want.

I wish I could close this topic.

Seriously, who the fuck cares.

You should've cleaned the mess up right away instead of walking away from it if you ask me, if i were to drop a soda-can that sprayed all over the floor when i worked at a grocery store and just left it i would've gotten soo much shit.

Takes like 40 seconds to run and get some paper to wipe it up, ofc i don't know the layout of the place where you work, but i can't imagine it taking up you're entire break.

Okay Waar I see where you are getting at, but then it's a simple thing, I have a philosophy that if someone says something to me, that bothers me, I'm not going to sit and listen to it, I am going to say something. I am going to ask them to not say something like that to me again. That is the way I am. If you want to think that I am acting childish for that then so be it. But I'm not about to let someone walk allover me even if they are my superior, on a professional level, but not on a personal level that is what I was trying to convey. I as well do understand that this is not a perfect world, I accept that, I deal with assholes worse than you, no offense meant, on a daily basis. Stupidity is that of the general masses. After a long day anything is possible to happen.

Also Klown, yes I could have done that, but the fact of thee matter stands that it did not happen. I'm not saying it's not in his right to not tell me what to do, it is how he handled the situation that is what I have a problem with. For the most part this guy thinks he is a mini God. That is my problem, I don't like people like that. I respect him, but then as I have had past experiences, with other managers in the same situation, I have actually said worse, to managers in the store higher up than him.

As for what swiftage has said, about no one caring. If you don't care then why say something? It's a pointless reply and a waste of time, to post something like "No one cares", or "who cares". If you don't care then don't say something.

If I dropped a can of soda at workplace I'd clean it up immediately. It's my mess so I clean it up.

As for momma insults I would've told him your momma insults is so elementary school.

You should have clean that mess. Seriously, you think just because you're on break you can't do anything? What if someone slipped on that thing and gets seriously injured while you were gone? Did you even think of that?

If that actually happened, your manager would be in the biggest trouble because of your stupid neglection. Also, you probably wouldn't even have a job right now.

You shouldn't have even been in that situation on the first place.

If he insulted my mom, I would probably get fired. Because there are things that no one should ever try to mention in front of me and get away without me "explaining him".

See, this is my point? You don't seem to grasp that what he said to you was not the insult you perceived it to be... You got mad because someone mentioned your mothers name without even thinking about what he actually said; you reacted emotionally. Your philosophy is fine but only when it applies to something that you actually understood... not a bad joke which you misinterpreted; if anything I would have been mad at him for his lack of originality... but I'm big on being original when calling someone out. Look, I'm not telling you to not defend yourself when being assaulted, and I'm not telling you to allow others to tarnish your mothers good name (whatever), what I'm saying is you need to think about things before you act... too many wars have been fought over stupid misunderstandings and although this is a minor thing it seems to be part of a pattern you and other members of fakku have fallen into, really makes it easy for me to play with you guys.

Also, it sounds like you've had a problem with this "mini God" for longer than just this incident, perhaps you were just trying to finally put him in his place? You just picked a stupid reason to snap this time. Don't let your opinion of others/emotions overwhelm your reason when trying to knock someone down, you can't possibly win and only come off looking like an idiot.

As some of the other users have said you dropped the ball and should have done something about it, saying that "i know what should have happened but it didn't" is fucking stupid... you chose not to do it, be and adult male and live your with terrible decision, own up to it. Really reminds me of that other kid who hurt his manga store owner's feelings by hanging out with one of her enemies when he was supposed to be with her... He did come to his senses at some point, i hope the same can be said for you by the end of this thread.

When all is said and done you are in the wrong, no matter how you slice it... He is your direct superior, you did something wrong, and then reacted poorly when he told you to rectify your mistake... The company will back him on this and the only thing your looking for here is sympathy or a pat on the back for being "badass" in a calm way.

No, I wouldn't have done the same thing; I'm good at my job.
Even if you aren't on the clock, your own fuckups are your responsibility. The only time I wouldn't immediately clean up after myself is if I was far too busy to stop what I was doing at the time. Which occasionally happens in my job. But if I was on break (if I got breaks), I would get it right away, and that whole situation would be avoided.

However, if your manager sees the need to reprimand you for something, they shouldn't even do it jeeringly or in front of other employees, because it is unprofessional. But managers can be dicks. I personally just ignore the fact that they are dicks most of the time. The most reaction I ever really give is telling them I'm really busy at the moment. Other than that, I ignore and patronize.
I feel they are miserable enough human beings on their own.

Lmao. That part stands out to me after I seemed to have responded in a serious manner when you brought up racism in that other thread. Lol, after seeing your post which indicated you weren't serious, all I could think was:

"Wow. I fail. Why did I even respond? I should leave Fakku a while, take a break, recuperate and start over."

I definitely misunderstood that post and turned the thread in a new direction, a direction of fail. I guess that just goes to show that misunderstanding things (in both my case and the case of Angelus, can be pretty bad).

you obviously don't know the managers I work with, especially this guy, if you actually catch him on a good day he will make you laugh, but then he doesn't know where the line is sometimes, and that's why I actually said something. If it was not for the comment about my momma not working there and me needing to clean my own messes up I would have just gone on and cleaned it up with out a word. But if he had said something like, "it's your mess you need to clean it up" or something along the lines of a professional I would have no problem with it, done it and gone on with my ways. By the Way it takes about 5 minutes to get everything to clean a spill up if it's a little water it takes less time but if it's soda you have to get a mop.

ignore the fact that you basically ignored my post for whatever reason (yeah I would want to avoid any debate against me as well) do you still believe his comment was a direct insult targeting your mother and you were in fact in the right when you called him out for it?

just wondering, because your poll seems to say otherwise.

Don't feel like arguing with you because it's no point to it really and I didn't have anything to say, to what you said. I will say this I didn't take it as an insult I took it as an ill placed jab at a lax moment in work my personal work ethic. As I have stated I would have possibly not said anything if he had remained more professional about it.

so even after multiple users have told you that you are in fact in the wrong, and your poll numbers show you at a resounding loss you still think you were not to blame for the situation and your actions afterwards were in fact correct?

my friend, you are exactly the person I spoke of earlier, you did not want everyone's opinion, well you did, but you only wanted the opinions of those who agreed with you. I wonder if that one yes vote was your own... I won't tell you that I pity you Angelus, that would be a lie, I simply do not care enough to pity you. Good luck finding that world where you don't have to deal with assholes, hopefully for your sake the place will be made out of chocolate, beer, and boobs.

Because I cannot actually close these terrible threads, I post to show my disdain for them, in hopes of sparking an outright rebellion of the user community in a similar fashion in hopes of inspiring you to never make a topic like this again.

Because I am an intelligent gentleman of the highest caliber, I give dignified responses.

If I could downvote this thread, or post without bumping it, I would do so.