Zombie Contingency Plan?
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g-money wrote...
AJ27 wrote...
That may be true but I thought I should point it out because our houshold has two of them. For radios there were those with built-in hand cranks for power I think.Where do you live? I've never heard of a hand-crank-powered radio. I know that often in earthquake zones, people have flashlights all over the house, rechargeable ones at that, but this is the first time I've heard of said radios.
I live in Wisconsin. The weather around here can change every now and then and I've been in plenty of blackouts so flashlights are important to me. As for the radios I saw them while cruising the web. I forgot where I saw it but it was on one of those sites telling you what to have and how to prepare for emergencies.
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AJ27 wrote...
I live in Wisconsin. The weather around here can change every now and then and I've been in plenty of blackouts so flashlights are important to me. As for the radios I saw them while cruising the web. I forgot where I saw it but it was on one of those sites telling you what to have and how to prepare for emergencies.I can tell, especially when dust storms/devils and tornadoes are a constant threat in the Midwest. (though I highly doubt anyone's going to have a hand-cranked radio)
If this was a Resident Evil kind of case where mere exposure to some man-made toxin/virus/bacteria would turn you into a zombie, we're fucked. As I said before, I would also be aware of mutated zombies into something that's smarter, faster, stronger, quieter, and bigger. Resident Evil and Left 4 Dead feature mutated zombies out the wazoo.
No one else has a zombie contingency plan or advice/suggestions?
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Besides trying to get to a island or deep in the mountains I've no real zombie invasion plan. I should pry study this topic...
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Sorry. I've been a bit busy.
Try humping half a hundred shells and a cumbersome shotgun all day, and tell me it isn't heavy.
Err...not actually humping, but you know what I mean, I believe. Personally, I believe that close-quarters with a zombie, in any situation, is a surefire way to acquire a craving for brains. I would make it a point to stay in the open, even in an urban environment. Clogged streets are to be avoided, and buildings never entered alone.
Sure. Down. But not out. No worse zombie-related death then by a crawler whose spine you blew out a few seconds ago.
Also, let's talk recoil. Shotguns kick like a mule. Against one zombie, at close range, I figure I would use it. Any other range, a pistol will serve just as well, but make less noise and weigh far less.
As well, noise. There are no silenced shotguns, as far as I know.
Again, if we consider the L4D runner model, then the need for an accurate weapon that doesn't weigh and slow you down only goes up. A rifle or a pistol would serve you much better at picking them off from a distance then a shotgun would, when you tried to engage them from arms length.
True. But I know some people.
Seriously. I know some guys in the Russian mob who would probably spot me an AK if I could convince them that there we zombies about.
But, ignoring that bit, I've shot a Beretta and a M19 before, and because of their light weight and availability of ammo and the gun itself, it would be my weapon of choice anyway.
Remember, Zombies don't wear armor. There's no need to splurge on AP rounds and assault carbines when a simple 9mm to the skull will do the job just as well.
g-money wrote...
@Arizth: there's a reason why I mentioned shotguns, and trust me, a shotgun killing zone extends beyond 5 meters. The Benelli itself boasts a 50 meter effective range, but obviously 10-20 meters of that would be considered a kill shot. Another thing about shotguns that I mentioned before is that the shotgun is choice weapon at close-range/close-quarter combat. This means within the city proper with your back to a wall or navigating clogged streets or searching inside buildings and rooms. And the shells aren't that heavy. Try humping half a hundred shells and a cumbersome shotgun all day, and tell me it isn't heavy.
Err...not actually humping, but you know what I mean, I believe. Personally, I believe that close-quarters with a zombie, in any situation, is a surefire way to acquire a craving for brains. I would make it a point to stay in the open, even in an urban environment. Clogged streets are to be avoided, and buildings never entered alone.
g-money wrote...
On the note of shooting while running, most weapons would become innaccurate whenever you run, not just the shotgun, but with the shotgun, precision aiming isn't needed. Another point to the shotgun is the relatively lack of aiming. One or two shells should put down a zombie in no time.Sure. Down. But not out. No worse zombie-related death then by a crawler whose spine you blew out a few seconds ago.
Also, let's talk recoil. Shotguns kick like a mule. Against one zombie, at close range, I figure I would use it. Any other range, a pistol will serve just as well, but make less noise and weigh far less.
As well, noise. There are no silenced shotguns, as far as I know.
g-money wrote...
As for zombies, I'm considering the Left 4 Dead model where they can run, climb, and do whatever it takes to get to you. The possibility of mutation into something worse is highly likely, but given enough trauma, the zombies will die. Obviously the rule of thumb of attacking any zombie is to shoot it in the head or somehow disrupt its nervous system, like breaking the neck/spine. Eventually, give or take a couple months to a full year, I'd expect the zombies to completely decompose.Again, if we consider the L4D runner model, then the need for an accurate weapon that doesn't weigh and slow you down only goes up. A rifle or a pistol would serve you much better at picking them off from a distance then a shotgun would, when you tried to engage them from arms length.
g-money wrote...
Another thing about the pistols: I chose the glock/beretta/HK and even the Colt SA M1911A is because of availability to the public/ease of access. Obviously, I'd prefer a gun that didn't use pussy 9mm cartridges, but you gotta use what you've got on hand. Many weapons I mentioned are the preferred types, but most likely unavailable unless you're in the military or raid a military base (or get it for free). I don't think gunshops stock benelli M1014s or M4 carbines.True. But I know some people.
Seriously. I know some guys in the Russian mob who would probably spot me an AK if I could convince them that there we zombies about.
But, ignoring that bit, I've shot a Beretta and a M19 before, and because of their light weight and availability of ammo and the gun itself, it would be my weapon of choice anyway.
Remember, Zombies don't wear armor. There's no need to splurge on AP rounds and assault carbines when a simple 9mm to the skull will do the job just as well.
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Given the nature of this site I am astonished and appalled at the fact that nobody has as of yet chosen option
3.) put it in.
If the zombie in question is anything like l4d's witch, that doesn't sound too objectionable - and because that most likely paints you as non-hostile/incorporates you into their faction, you get out of your predicament without bloodshed.
I call it the Make Love Not War plan.
3.) put it in.
If the zombie in question is anything like l4d's witch, that doesn't sound too objectionable - and because that most likely paints you as non-hostile/incorporates you into their faction, you get out of your predicament without bloodshed.
I call it the Make Love Not War plan.
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gibbous wrote...
Given the nature of this site I am astonished and appalled at the fact that nobody has as of yet chosen option3.) put it in.
If the zombie in question is anything like l4d's witch, that doesn't sound too objectionable - and because that most likely paints you as non-hostile/incorporates you into their faction, you get out of your predicament without bloodshed.
I call it the Make Love Not War plan.
I highly doubt that would work... and in any case, the female zombie might have more of an inclination to bite you than anything else.
@Arizth: I find it the opposite: I'd prefer to be in close quarters unless out in the plain ol' country. Thing about being in the open is that you are easy prey for when the zombie horde acts up and tries to surround you. Being in the open will get you killed, and killed fast.
And you're really deadset against the shotgun... despite my reasoning. Aiming at a zombie with a shotgun should be centered on the chest region, which will either result with a chest shot that will guarantee a spine blowout or the recoil shifts your aim higher resulting in a headshot - don't see the problem of getting bitten by crawler since they're obviously dead.
I'm sure that there are other weapons that provide worse recoil than the shotgun, and maybe because I'm building my muscles that I'm accustomed to heavy things, I can't imagine a shotgun weighing more than 8.5lbs fully chambered. Plus, more modern shotguns are purposely designed to have less recoil than the older models.
I'm not saying that your arguments are invalid, but in close-quarters/close-combat against zombies where aiming can fail you (depending on the user), my pick would be the shotgun. In any other case, the ARs and sniper/hunting rifles would be my pick. More often than not, the shotgun is probably the most popular weapon on hand next to a semi-auto pistol. Availability-wise, a shotgun is handy and it works, just not for distance.
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Seeing as I am living in a rural area, Moving to another area will be hard. See I live in a tri-town area, with Rural surroundings there is a house every 300 yards or so n some areas, so Its gonna be a tough one once The shit hits the fan. Seeing as we have various sporting good and hunting shops around here those would be the best places to hit up for Ammo. There is Wal-mart here...but~ sigh..everyone is gonna be there so its out of the question So in tradition. I think my best option is load up as many supplies as I can get a good melee weapon since being in rural area mean the worst case scenario..Wide open terrain...I think I will need something along the terms of a hand gun, and a good ole fashion baseball bat.
So heading to the nearest army surplus/hunting goods store, I would more than likely get most of what I need there, by way of looting. The nearest house or grocery store should be fine, after a sweeping clear run of the house for any zombies, load up..and then head out..or find a more fortified position, wait out the brunt and then plan out harrowing route to the next supposed supply depot and area.
I know not a solid plan, but Down here in the sticks..I think I am gonna have to do this on the fly, for me atleast that should not be too hard.
So heading to the nearest army surplus/hunting goods store, I would more than likely get most of what I need there, by way of looting. The nearest house or grocery store should be fine, after a sweeping clear run of the house for any zombies, load up..and then head out..or find a more fortified position, wait out the brunt and then plan out harrowing route to the next supposed supply depot and area.
I know not a solid plan, but Down here in the sticks..I think I am gonna have to do this on the fly, for me atleast that should not be too hard.
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kasul-rahul wrote...
I know not a solid plan, but Down here in the sticks...at least that should not be too hard.Uh, countryside would be more of an advantage. If your rural area is anything like mine I would be ditching the roads straight away and heading across paddocks ect. Less chance of running across the undead. The only down side would be lack of supplies. But with right training you can live off the land quite well. And for cross country, 4WD's are an option, but if your going off road extensively and not just temporarily choose some other form of transport...too easy to get bogged. Cross country bike or horses (as much as I hate horses, it would be a better option in the long run due to the fact that they run on grass and grains not petrol)
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g-money wrote...
I've even seen a Steyr AUG for sale.I have used the Styer AUG's before and they are a plastic pile of crap (Australian Army/Navy/Air Farce use them albeit they are produced here under license and not over in Europe, but they are the same weapon. About the only good thing about them is the scope.
g-money wrote...
Where do you live? South East Queensland (rural area)
Arizth wrote...
Some pointers on zombie engagement:
1. Never shoot/kill a zombie unless you have to. Tiptoe around and avoiding zombies should be your #1 priority. Silence can do you a whole lot of good... and avoid bringing down a whole world of trouble on your head.
2. If you do engage zombies, try to do it at a distance to lessen the risk of getting infected, aka bitten, by using your firearms.
3. Using firearms, stay calm, and don't panic - your aim needs to be precise as possible to squeeze off headshots/nervous-system trauma.
4. If it comes to melee combat when you want to save ammo, unprepared ninja zombie, out of ammo, or don't posess a firearm, trauma to nervous-system is you best bet - head blows, spine-breaking. If you can't, making sure the zombie can't follow you by attacking the legs is key.
5. In almost any rule of engagement, seeking higher ground will be advantageous when they attack/swarm you.
6. Seek cover or strategic points where you can fend off the zombie horde when they swarm en masse. Keeping your back to a wall is better than being open 360 degrees. If you don't seek some sort of cover or place of engagement, there will be simply no way to defend yourself 360 degrees out in the open. Here are some strategic spots:
a) the closet/room: your back is covered, and you can funnel the zombies through one doorway.
b) the doorway: same principle as the closet, except you risk your 6 being open. Usually good when you know what direction the horde is coming from.
c) the hallway: funneling the zombies even more, this is a good chance to wipe them out one by one rather than 2-5 charging in the doorways.
d) the corner: not as good as the other options, but your 6 is covered and you only have to cover 90 degrees worth of line of sight.
e) the higher vantage point: mentioned before, getting on top of something that the horde will have to climb to get you is better than nothing - but you'll be able to shoot them down with relative impunity as the head portion will be more available to the survivor to shoot at.
Some good points there.
Try humping half a hundred shells and a cumbersome shotgun all day, and tell me it isn't heavy.
Not only shotgun shells. Try lugging 15 mag's (30 rounds per mag) of 5.56 as well as the rifle. Its just as bad if not worse!
Arizth wrote...
Also, let's talk recoil. Shotguns kick like a mule. Against one zombie, at close range, I figure I would use it. Any other range, a pistol will serve just as well, but make less noise and weigh far less.
Recoil is a bitch that you want to tame ASAP. Recoil can also get you killed as well.
Arizth wrote...
As well, noise. There are no silenced shotguns, as far as I know.
There are silencers but they are not very effective at all. To the point it is not worth the loss of power to the reduction of noise.
Arizth wrote...
when a simple 9mm to the skull will do the job just as well.There is an old saying that is used in the Australian Navy. It is "Aim small, Miss small. Aim big, Hit big." Head shots are extremely hard to pull off on a moving target, slow or not.
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@CPOK: the last four quotes aren't mine - you just quoted Arizth who's anti-shotgun. I always thought the Steyr AUG, aside from the bullpup design, was a reliable rifle with good distance and penetration.
@kasul-rahul: usually open terrain is a good idea. Only problem is that eventually you need somewhere to hunker down and live out. I don't think you'd be sleeping on the grassy plains. I'd figure heading up north might be better where the cold my slow down the infection, but who knows, that could just be a hypothesis.
@kasul-rahul: usually open terrain is a good idea. Only problem is that eventually you need somewhere to hunker down and live out. I don't think you'd be sleeping on the grassy plains. I'd figure heading up north might be better where the cold my slow down the infection, but who knows, that could just be a hypothesis.
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That's depend on what cause it...
1.If it's a mystical zombie,we counter it using magic,holy water,etc.
2.If it's a virus like resident evil,just use high degrees fire(as far as i know,virus will die if the temperature is high)In this case,i'll use everything that flammable :p
1.If it's a mystical zombie,we counter it using magic,holy water,etc.
2.If it's a virus like resident evil,just use high degrees fire(as far as i know,virus will die if the temperature is high)In this case,i'll use everything that flammable :p
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Exoduz wrote...
That's depend on what cause it...1.If it's a mystical zombie,we counter it using magic,holy water,etc.
You got magic? Cuz if you do, teach me them spells.
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I went back and played some Left 4 Dead, just to see if I'm being an ass with the whole Shotgun thing.
Four expert campaigns later, I think I've covered just about every situation we've talked about, with each weapon.
Again, Shotgun?
Reloading. Is. A. Bitch. And. A. Half.
I think I would still stick with a carbine or a rifle.
Unless a tank shows up.
But I doubt that would happen in real life.
But, if it did, moar shotgun.
Four expert campaigns later, I think I've covered just about every situation we've talked about, with each weapon.
Again, Shotgun?
Reloading. Is. A. Bitch. And. A. Half.
I think I would still stick with a carbine or a rifle.
Unless a tank shows up.
But I doubt that would happen in real life.
But, if it did, moar shotgun.
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g-money wrote...
@CPOK: the last four quotes aren't mine - you just quoted Arizth who's anti-shotgun.Fixed
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Arizth wrote...
I went back and played some Left 4 Dead, just to see if I'm being an ass with the whole Shotgun thing.Four expert campaigns later, I think I've covered just about every situation we've talked about, with each weapon.
Again, Shotgun?
Reloading. Is. A. Bitch. And. A. Half.
I think I would still stick with a carbine or a rifle.
Unless a tank shows up.
But I doubt that would happen in real life.
But, if it did, moar shotgun.
I find that AR ammo gets used up real fast against a Tank, and moreso on advanced and Expert, which is why I always make sure someone, if not me, has a shotgun on hand to unload damage. Give or take, I'd take the AR over the shotgun anyday, but as I said, if you can't find a AR, the shotgun is the next best thing for urban and even suburban combat.
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g-money wrote...
Exoduz wrote...
That's depend on what cause it...1.If it's a mystical zombie,we counter it using magic,holy water,etc.
You got magic? Cuz if you do, teach me them spells.
LOL...
It's not what i mean....
Magic mean i'll come to the spiritual person,just ask for our shamans to deal with them
