K-1 wrote...
It's already been stated, but it's worth stating again - you do not control how your tax dollars are spent. Demanding that the government not spend your taxes on abortions is like saying that you don't want your money spent to build a road that you're never going to use. It's asinine to even suggest it.
You're misinterpreting people's arguments generally speaking. People aren't saying "well I don't want tax dollars to be spent on abortions because I'm not going to have one," they're saying they don't want the irresponsibility of another person, or an immoral act, or a number of other arguments, to be paid for by the government. It's not like the government is supposed to spend money on whatever they want. People vote for things...usually?
A better comparison would be, you don't want government to spend their money on rehabilitation programs for drug addicts (and rather have the drug addicts pay for their own mistakes), or in the case of morale opposition, you don't want the government to pay for killing babies.
K-1 wrote...
But more importantly, Planned Parenthood and organizations like it do a lot more than just give abortions. Hasn't it been shown time and time again that abortions make up only a very small percent of what they do? Hasn't it been shown over and over that their other programs do a lot of good and that depriving them of funding would hurt a lot of women that have never had and will never have an abortion? Why does the idea still exist that Planned Parenthood is an evil entity that does nothing but kill babies?
I have no idea how people look at planned parenthood but I don't think anyone has even mentioned them yet in this topic for the most part. I'm curious as to if they can't just outline that the money will not go to supporting abortion related pursuits.
K-1 wrote...
Now, on the topic of abortion itself, I'll be frank - human life doesn't matter that much. I love my life, I love my family, but we're all pretty much insignificant specks, and I don't mean only when you think about our place in the grand universe. Among just the human race, we are insignificant. During the time I've spent writing this post, dozens of people have died across the globe. Hundreds of people die and are born each day. Human life is not a special thing that deserves to be protected at all costs.
The 'fact' that human life doesn't matter is generally when you put things into different perspectives.
But anyways, it's not like if abortions aren't allowed to certain categories of pregnant woman, the world will explode. It's hardly all costs, and besides, considering the 'insignificance' of anything that exists, virtually any cost that humanity can put up also doesn't really matter.
Either way this unfortunately is more of a philosophical point than an argument, as I doubt this point could be used to persuade either side of anything.
On a similar note, I think it would be very interesting if the law went ahead and classified any fetus or whatever to be life but also allowed abortion (perhaps under a self-defense like manner).
K-1 wrote...
At the end of every episode of The Price is Right, Drew Carey (formerly Bob Barker) says to spay and neuter your pets. It is important to get your dog or cat fixed because there are already a lot of stray dogs and cats that do nothing but live on the street and die on the street. But isn't life precious? Isn't spaying your dog or cat depriving the world of possible lives? Yes, it is, but it doesn't fucking matter. There are plenty of dogs and cats as it is, and fixing one or two or a dozen of them will not affect the dog or cat population.
Very few non-catholic (hohoho) people are arguing that not having babies constantly is destruction of life. It's really a mutation of their argument by attempting to confuse and redefine their perspective on life and its worth.
In the first place, most people place human life and animal life on vastly different scales, and that's partially because we can't do anything about animal life. There was a particular phrase that I do not recall that has to do with humanity cannot walk without stepping on life...
There are also other points about the reasons for animal life to be different and also why woman not constantly erupting babies is not desecration of life, but my post is getting a bit big.
K-1 wrote...
Sure, we can play the guessing game - "Maybe the aborted fetus would have ended world hunger!" - but you can do that if living people, too. "Maybe if the kid from the poverty-stricken family had gone to college, he would have ended world hunger!" Positing the hypothetical situation doesn't actually change anything. Furthermore, you can be negative about it - "Maybe the aborted fetus would have launched a genocidal war!" "Maybe if that guy had been fired from his job for ineptitude, he would have brought in a gun and killed dozens of people!" When we do that, we end up with a lot of possibilities and nothing else. Hell, my life might have been completely different if I had kissed a certain girl at a certain time, but I'm not going to say that it is always good or always bad for people to kiss girls they like.
Why is it necessary for the fetus to do something great for you to even want to save it? People can just be people and that's awesome. Good things and bad things will happen.
If everything always has to be significant then the only people worth saving are people who save everyone (ending world hunger), but the people they're saving aren't even worth anything anyways.
There are plenty of points for and against abortion and plenty of valid debates. There are things in this stance that can be interesting but these metaphysical bounds you're putting on it tend to be more towards the morality of it and not actually making a logic-based argument on why it should or shouldn't be allowed.
K-1 wrote...
Abortions happen; they've happened for hundreds of years, and they're going to keep happening hundreds of years into the future. They're not evil incarnate,
Plenty of things have happened for hundreds of years and will keep happening. It's not an argument for whether they're right or not.