Child Molester and Pedophiles

A while back, a long while back, I always thought that Pedophiles were bad people because they molest children, meaning me when I was a kid.

Someone brought it to my attention, though not directly but indirectly as his target audience was the internet. The man first began by saying you can't blame pedophiles for being pedophiles, they probably didn't want to be like that in the first place. Then he went on about how pedophiles aren't child molesters.

"What?" I said in shock. "This person obviously is crazy. Pedophiles are child molesters. It just goes hand in hand."

He then stated something along the lines of: Pedophiles like kids. Child molesters molest children. Complete difference.

It made sense. But why were we always thought that pedophiles are child molesters? If I could think of a better question, I would but have this.

Another Question to go along with it.

You probably should have made this thread in SD. Oh btw the answer to your question is because our society focuses a lot on fear and so anyone who can be bad is treated as if they already are bad.

This holds truth. Also remember that pedophiles stray away from society's mainstream or so called the "normal" ones. This is another reason why people look differently at pedos.

Another reason is that there is always a chance that pedos would evolve to child molesters. Since if there is desire then it may only need little provocation to manifest that desire into action.

Well the guy who had that video is right in a sense.

People who are homosexual didn't choose to be homosexual, they didn't wake up one day and decide they were going to be 'different' and enjoy the same sex. It was just something they felt drawn to.

Just because a man or woman is attracted to young children, doesn't make him or her a child molester. It means they're a pedophile.

It's very hard for them to get help too. You look up any groups and it's mostly angry parents saying you're worse than shit and just need to turn yourself into the cops because you're fucked up and deserve to be dead.

Great support, right?

The court systems don't even want anything to do with a pedophile unless they've convicted a crime.

No help, no advise, just 'don't do it'

So you have to live with yourself every day being attracted to children and not get any support.

Granted, even if you could get help - what would they be able to do for you?
You can't tell a homosexual that they're wrong and need to stop liking their same gender.

Now, pedophiles who target children to manipulate or abuse, they're the ones who are bad people. They need to be stopped, and they need to be punished.

Under no reason should 'temptation' be an excuse for somebody to do something and hurt another person, especially a defenseless child.


However, I do think there should be more support groups for pedophiles, instead of a society who would rather see you burn in hell. I think society would see a significant drop in child molestation too if there were support groups.

Sometimes just being able to talk and get things off your chest is much more effective then feeling alone and rejected.

ppl just go with the flow of wat has happened once and make it so it always like that
pedo -> molest kid -> child molester
which isnt the case everytime

Can't agree more with this. I too think that this is all the society needs to be, more supportive and help the people in need. Being paranoid surely won't solve the problem.

I do not think these would work. Because I think most of them (pedophiles) don't admit it themselves that they are one. To admit a perversion like this to another person must be very degrading. You basically admit that you are society's scum.

But I could be wrong. Those may exist and may work. I've just never heard of it.

i'm with you guys here, society should lent a hand to the people in need, instead of judging form other views and assumption. they should try to understand why they behave like this, what make them who their are and what assistance can we the society give to help them.

that is what i think.

Your intentions are noble but how is this to be implemented? How exactly do you plan on supporting pedophiles? Is it just enough to talk to them? Or are we going to have parents volunteer their children for entertainment? Do we try to convert them by making them watch mature porn all day? Or maybe hire some paid sluts to lecture them? The point is it's hard to take action.


Also pedophiles are in situations that surpass gays. You can see a lot of homos in the street acting naturally, some even dressed up to show that they are homos but pedophiles are different. Like what Kuroneko1/2 said they do not come out in public. Most are ashamed of what they are even though they do not seem like it. For them it's already a ticket to jail if everyone suddenly finds out of their fetish. I know there a lot of people here who like lolis and they are proud (and that's great), but when it comes to real children I doubt someone can step forward and confess unless they are in it for the luls.

No, I don't mean like volunteering a child for entertainment for the pedo club. You don't share alcohol at an AA meeting either. I can't even believe that statement was brought up.

Just simply a place to go to with other people who have had the same problem as them and they can talk about their lives. Just some counseling.

And I don't see why it's offensive to compare pedophiles to homosexuality, I'm not insulting homosexually. If you want to go that route, fine - heterosexuals don't have a say in who they're attracted to. So it's the same for heterosexuals as it is for pedophiles.

There, happy?

Maybe there's a psychological reasoning behind it, maybe they were molested as children, maybe they need help.

But the law does not support pedophilia and will not do anything unless they DO molest and then it's the slammer and registered sex offender and they can't function in society anymore.

It's wrong to molest a child, but as for lusting over a child, I don't think that's within their control. The only control they have is not actually molesting anybody.



As it is now, yes it is seen as very degrading. It is disgusting. They're not to speak of it, they're not to do anything about it but remain silent.

Whenever somebody is forced to remain silent, outbreaks tend to happen.

I don't see why some anonymous group could try to counsel pedophiles. More research could probably be done as well to see where pedophilia stems from.

Venting about something with other people who feel the same way would do a lot versus forced to remain silent.

It's not really offensive, but more like a proposterous comparison. Even though there are alot of people against gays, there are some who support it/accept it, and most fight for their rights. Rights they should have, because they do not harm anybody by expressing what they are (liking the same sex) and shouldn't be treated differently.

Whereas nobody accepts the acts of pedophiles, because they DO hurt and damage alot of people's lives.

Now about the being attracted to. There's no problem in being interested on the same sex or being attracted to kids. It's not like we can avoid certain thoughts. But assuming that you are gay is an act that is of your will, and so is commiting pedophilia.
So yeah what I'm saying is that people who commit these acts (pedos) are responsible for it. And the sentence should be proportional to the gravity of the crime.

I haven't heard many stories that claim a child molester, was in fact a pedophile. From what I got, pedophiles are sensible enough to not assault a kid. And of course there are exceptions.

Reason I say this is because that same man who said the "CM and P" stuff also said that most child molesters aren't pedophiles, by some statistic(lol... statistics). I don't know about that. It is odd that most CM aren't P.

Yes of course you do not mean that. It was a mere example to show that even though you want to do something for the pedophiles it's not an easy walk in the park. You cannot go to other people with the same problem as very few other people will admit that they have that problem. The best solution I can think of is to be indiscriminate of them by doing our best to treat them equally. But even this simple solution is a faraway goal since it's hard for everyone to welcome such abnormal existence.

Since the OP's question has been answered this should be fine.

Every taboo has taken time before it has been accepted. Before now, gays weren't as accepted in society. Now, some people support them.

As time moves on, taboos tend to be more accepted in society. I believe this is because of the idea that as the older generation dies off, the new one tends to be more accepting.

Now I'm not saying that pedophiles will be... accepted as quickly as it has been for gays. But I believe it will take a long ass time for them to be accepted.

Truly the question is, how long will it take?

Humans are truly amazing. What they don't understand they want to disappear.

That's the major difference between all other orientations.

All other orientations are consenting adults.

Pedophilia is a love for underaged defenseless children.

I don't think it should ever be 'accepted' in terms of 'coming out of the closet' and people going 'oh dude, that's not a big deal calm down'

I think support groups to allow pedophiles the chance to vent and have a place where they can speak would be implemented waaay before pedophilia is even considered acceptable.

It's pushed together with child molestation too much.
You think pedophile - you think child molester.

Yes that's the only problem. It's with children. Although they can't change who they love(?), this orientation will never be as accepted as other communities have.

But what do pedophiles love most about children? Their personalities or their looks? (Random question, I apologize)

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In due time they may get fully accepted in society. But right now I am not sure of society is ready. No parent wants their children near people who might rape them so there will always be an uncomfortable atmosphere towards them.

Often it's their purity.