Countries Where Porn is Illegal
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Altereggo wrote...
Has anyone mentioned the UK yet? Even most of the porn posted on fakku is technically illegal there. Even they rarely prosecute people for it, there's the usual chilling effect heavy-handed censorship always produces. The US really is quite unique in its speech protections.
Could you possibly link to something about this? I'm interested in a western country banning porn (ignoring Loli/Shota obviously).
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Altereggo wrote...
Has anyone mentioned the UK yet? Even most of the porn posted on fakku is technically illegal there. Even they rarely prosecute people for it, there's the usual chilling effect heavy-handed censorship always produces. The US really is quite unique in its speech protections.
I'm from the UK and outside of CP I have never heard of anyone getting arrested for having or selling porn. I'm fairly sure loli is illegal here but I haven't herd of anyone getting in trouble for that.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Altereggo wrote...
Has anyone mentioned the UK yet? Even most of the porn posted on fakku is technically illegal there. Even they rarely prosecute people for it, there's the usual chilling effect heavy-handed censorship always produces. The US really is quite unique in its speech protections.
Could you possibly link to something about this? I'm interested in a western country banning porn (ignoring Loli/Shota obviously).
Actually the US is no better either. A scat director was sentenced to 4 years of prison:
http://www.dailydot.com/news/2-girls-1-cup-defense-obscenity/
http://randazza.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/practical-obscenity-evaluation-two-girls-one-cup/
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Flaser wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Altereggo wrote...
Has anyone mentioned the UK yet? Even most of the porn posted on fakku is technically illegal there. Even they rarely prosecute people for it, there's the usual chilling effect heavy-handed censorship always produces. The US really is quite unique in its speech protections.
Could you possibly link to something about this? I'm interested in a western country banning porn (ignoring Loli/Shota obviously).
Actually the US is no better either. A scat director was sentenced to 4 years of prison:
http://www.dailydot.com/news/2-girls-1-cup-defense-obscenity/
http://randazza.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/practical-obscenity-evaluation-two-girls-one-cup/
I was thinking more along the lines of Australia's ban on A cup breasts when I made the previous statement. Plus, it's no surprise when you bring up America when we talk about this kind of stuff because America is just schizophrenic, we're too damn conservative and liberal at the same time.
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Let me get some cites on that. The biggest recent incident is the Simon Walsh case.
Here's the government's guide on what illegal "extreme pornography" is: http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/d_to_g/extreme_pornography/
A Grauniad article that sums it up nicely: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/12/nick-cohen-simon-walsh-cps-pornography-prosecution
And a UK lawyer's blog talking about the case: http://obscenitylawyer.blogspot.com/2012/07/porn-trial-this-time-its-extreme.html
Of course, you only need a few prosecutions to cause a chilling effect. And a guilty verdict isn't needed at all: the prosecution itself is life-destroying.
Labour did a lot of creepy shit in the last decade, and people are only just starting to feel the full effects of it. I'm glad I got out of that hellhole years ago.
I'll look into the 2g1c case, but one important fact to note: he plead guilty. Probably under enormous pressure, but he didn't have the balls to make a fight of it. Aaaaand it's probably not the best test case to overturn current obscenity law on appeal...
Here's the government's guide on what illegal "extreme pornography" is: http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/d_to_g/extreme_pornography/
A Grauniad article that sums it up nicely: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/12/nick-cohen-simon-walsh-cps-pornography-prosecution
And a UK lawyer's blog talking about the case: http://obscenitylawyer.blogspot.com/2012/07/porn-trial-this-time-its-extreme.html
Of course, you only need a few prosecutions to cause a chilling effect. And a guilty verdict isn't needed at all: the prosecution itself is life-destroying.
Labour did a lot of creepy shit in the last decade, and people are only just starting to feel the full effects of it. I'm glad I got out of that hellhole years ago.
I'll look into the 2g1c case, but one important fact to note: he plead guilty. Probably under enormous pressure, but he didn't have the balls to make a fight of it. Aaaaand it's probably not the best test case to overturn current obscenity law on appeal...
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devsonfire
3,000,000th Poster
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Flaser wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Altereggo wrote...
Has anyone mentioned the UK yet? Even most of the porn posted on fakku is technically illegal there. Even they rarely prosecute people for it, there's the usual chilling effect heavy-handed censorship always produces. The US really is quite unique in its speech protections.
Could you possibly link to something about this? I'm interested in a western country banning porn (ignoring Loli/Shota obviously).
Actually the US is no better either. A scat director was sentenced to 4 years of prison:
http://www.dailydot.com/news/2-girls-1-cup-defense-obscenity/
http://randazza.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/practical-obscenity-evaluation-two-girls-one-cup/
I was thinking more along the lines of Australia's ban on A cup breasts when I made the previous statement. Plus, it's no surprise when you bring up America when we talk about this kind of stuff because America is just schizophrenic, we're too damn conservative and liberal at the same time.
Honestly speaking, after living in Australia for roughly 5 years, I'm not aware of a ban on A-cup porn.
CP is illegal in AU obviously though.
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devsonfire wrote...
Honestly speaking, after living in Australia for roughly 5 years, I'm not aware of a ban on A-cup porn.CP is illegal in AU obviously though.
I pulled this from a quick google search.
The Australian Classification Board has stated that it will not give a rating to any film that includes a cup breasts which effectively makes them illegal to sell in Australia. This policy also extends to films that include female ejaculations.
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devsonfire wrote...
Honestly speaking, after living in Australia for roughly 5 years, I'm not aware of a ban on A-cup porn.
The most effective form of censorship is the kind you never notice. If people know about it, they can take steps to avoid it.
Let me tell you from conversations I've had with people in the porn industry: it is a nightmare to get porn approved by their censorship department. According to them, squirting=pissing=banned, for example.
And if it's not pre-approved for sale, it's illegal to bring into the country.
Still, they scrapped that awful internet filter idea for now. That's something, at least.
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Now I just wish porn never existed. Then I and everyone never would be tempted in any way and the girls could live in peace. Isn't that what the feminists are fighting for? Problem is the money of course. The moral is not important since they earn tons of money. The rest of the opinions are closed. References makes bad morale.
Other things would be people playing along with it and hiding the pain. These are bad influences.
Other things would be people playing along with it and hiding the pain. These are bad influences.
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FAKKU QA
Aikiru wrote...
Now I just wish porn never existed. Then I and everyone never would be tempted in any way and the girls could live in peace.What kind of statement is this? What about gay porn?
Aikiru wrote...
Isn't that what the feminists are fighting for?No, feminists think porn is degrading to women despite the fact that the porn stars chose to be in that profession. I went to a seminar of a major feminist lady speaker who had written a book on her quest to eradicate porn and all her examples were of hardcore porn. Then for her Q&A I asked her about animated porn (hentai) and visual novels and she said she had no idea what they were. So yeah for someone who wanted to eradicate porn, she was pretty uninformed.
Aikiru wrote...
Problem is the money of course. The moral is not important since they earn tons of money. The rest of the opinions are closed.Whose morals? Your morals? Who says the porn stars have to have your morals? Everyone has their own morals and just because you think porn isn't exactly wholesome doesn't mean others can't think it's just fine. And yeah, obviously money is a good incentive, but I'm pretty sure porn actors/actresses just starting out don't make a ton of money.
Aikiru wrote...
References makes bad morale. Other things would be people playing along with it and hiding the pain. These are bad influences.I don't fully get this except maybe that you think porn stars are secretly hurting emotionally because porn is slowly destroying their soul or something, which is completely untrue.
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Then let me ask you this. Do you think they are that happy with life? For me it looks like they are throwing it away. Not caring much since they gave up halfways in something.
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FAKKU QA
Aikiru wrote...
Then let me ask you this. Do you think they are that happy with life? For me it looks like they are throwing it away. Not caring much since they gave up halfways in something.Well good for you. Too bad it's not your life. If someone becomes a porn star, they did it for a reason. And, I know it might be hard to believe for you, but that reason might be happiness. Besides, plenty of people in the world have jobs they hate and are probably not "happy with life." It's not like porn stars automatically hate life because they get filmed having sex for a living.
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Its all power bound, if people are bound to their lust then they are more likely to deny authority for them. So for instance religions would ban porn so that they can enforce rules like "No masturbation" more effectivly".
I recently saw a report on a jewish school in my neighboorhood that censored words like "love" and "kissing" because quote "jewish people are prude", felt more like "We want jewish people to be prude".
I recently saw a report on a jewish school in my neighboorhood that censored words like "love" and "kissing" because quote "jewish people are prude", felt more like "We want jewish people to be prude".
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
Aikiru wrote...
Then let me ask you this. Do you think they are that happy with life? For me it looks like they are throwing it away. Not caring much since they gave up halfways in something.Here's an interesting titbit: some of them went into porn ON PURPOSE. Not just for the money, but (surprise surprise) because they also like sex and want it whenever possible. Your argument isn't really holding up much salt any more.
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Aikiru wrote...
Oh that's internet for ya. Nice. I get off this case. It's a hentai site dude, most of us aren't shy about our interest in porn.
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NosferatuGuts wrote...
Aikiru wrote...
Oh that's internet for ya. Nice. I get off this case. It's a hentai site dude, most of us aren't shy about our interest in porn.
Did that a lot back in time too. I'm no better. Just saying people could keep in mind that not everyone in there is being treated well. What people do is up to them.
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Dude here in the philippines everybody watches porn, even though we a most of us in our country a catholic or a muslim. Everybody thinks its normal ( well mostly....), Eveybody did it at one point in their lives anyway. Your mom did it, your local priest did it ,and even your good ol neighborr Juan is still doing it.
And whats more nobody carez if you like hentai or porn as long its hot, then your a man for liking or watching it.
I went to Claret School of QC a private Catholic school and even the teachers there knew se watched porn. Hell, they even joked around with us about it. So :P
And whats more nobody carez if you like hentai or porn as long its hot, then your a man for liking or watching it.
I went to Claret School of QC a private Catholic school and even the teachers there knew se watched porn. Hell, they even joked around with us about it. So :P