Rbz wrote...
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Azuran wrote...
Yeah, but you can't test it. You need a lot more than a hypothesis for something to be considered science.
True, but there are a few things in the scientific world that are accepted far more than ghosts but have just as much real evidence supporting them. I haven't seen anything that actually supports, really, any part of M theory (that I've heard about, that is), but it's much easier to find a person that believes in M theory than ghosts. At least, when we're talking about scientific possibility. There's a fuckload of people that believe in ghosts and don't think about any sort of explanation.
Ah, now there's something worthy of asking my physics professor about. 3 easy questions: Is M Theory actually a scientific theory or a hypothesis?
(Expectation: Hypothesis.) What makes M Theory scientific rather than just making stuff up? (
Expectation: It is described using mathematical logic, which was used to describe our universe before with special/general relativity, making such speculations have prior plausibility, unlike ghosts, which have ZERO prior plausibility.) What differentiates M Theory scientifically from something like ghosts? (Setting aside the implications of the first question, this is actually redundant as the second question would distinguish between the scientific and the unscientific [Ghost shit]. But for the sake of thoroughness, I'll add the third question, which I'll word differently.)
Pretty amusing as it took only one e-mail to debunk this "Ghosts on the same level as M Theory" bullshit. Just to qualify my physics professor, he studies and works on string theory, and it's safe to say he's a scientist. It turned out
exactly as I expected (see expectations above). He called string theory and M theory misnomers because they're not really scientific theories but a set of hypotheses.
For the most part, they are not currently testable, and a theory should be falsifiable. This is not the fault of the theorists. It's just that these ideas apply at such large energies that we don't yet have the technology to probe them. There is a caveat. We currently believe that string theory on certain geometries are dual to certain strongly coupled quantum field theories. For example, the endpoints of a string moving by a black hole follow the same dynamical rules as quarks moving through a quark-gluon plasma. This idea has been partially tested out with some positive preliminary results-- the string theory predictions roughly agree with the experiments.
Translation: M Theory (which he says is pretty much string theory) actually has some support.
naysayers tend to proclaim how its been 30 years and string theory has not shown any results. However, the theories of gravity and electromagnetism took many decades, if not centuries, to fully develop.
^Good point
And to put the icing on the cake:
While string theory is a misnomer, this is not to say that it's the same as believing in ghosts and pink elephants. There is a huge amount of mathematical structure in which things work out precisely and perfectly. It would be rather surprising, but not impossible, if all of that was just by coincidence. Here's one example. In quantum field theory, there are indications that the forces unify at high energy, at which point they all have the same strength. However, it turns out that they don't quite have the same strength until you add supersymmetry (an idea associated with string theory), with which the forces then have the same strength precisely. While it is always possible that this is just a coincidence, this could be pointing to some profound underlying physics at work that we don't yet fully understand. Ghosts don't have this type of mathematical beauty associated with them. So while string theory does not yet deserve the title of theory, I believe that it may hold much more promise than ghosts.
Q.E.D.