Drugs and Alcohol

I've drank once or twice before and it really doesn't do anything for me. Smoking cigarettes is one of the worst health choices you can make, inhaling tar doesn't appeal to me anyway, I think the smoke smells gross :X.

In general, restrictions should correlate with externalities. PCP is known to make people paranoid and violent, thus, I would not support its legalization.

Other externalities would include:

-second hand usage
-exposing children who have no choice in their situation to the substance
-level of addictiveness(if a drug is so inherently addictive that substantial percentages of people are willing to turn to violent crime to fund their addiction, this is an issue)
-health risks(such as blood borne pathogen risks relating to heroine needles)

I have to say that honestly, I think that any substance which causes hallucinations or increases paranoia and violent tendencies should not be legal. Both of these can cause a person to pose significant risk or bring significant difficulty to the world around them. Even if someone jumps off the Empire State building because he is tripping and thinks he can fly and ultimately kills only himself, that causes a lot of problems for a lot of other people.

Of the drugs I am familiar with, the only one I would support the legalization of would be marijuana. And with its legalization, I would want it to be subject to the same restrictions as tobacco.

Alcohol is an interesting substance; it doesn't necessarily make you lose control of your actions, even in copious amounts, nor does the alcohol itself so a lot of other things that people generally believe it does. Most of the effects of alcohol are perceived effects, based on thing like the culture you were raised in. This is the biggest reason that it has such a wide range of different effects on different people.

I generally agree with you, though, about what people do to themselves. Although it seems that often enough, the line were it stops effecting only you and begins effecting society is very unclear, and so easily crossed. Anything legalized must be regulated. And I specifically agree with you about weed. Also, if weed is legalized, it should be taxed all to hell like cigarettes are.

I was just recalling the effects it had on people I knew personally. I've seen everything from the drunk who cries and apologizes to everyone for the things he did or didn't do. Idiots who drove while shitfaced, flipped their truck half a dozen times then walked away from an accident. Which I bumped into the guy at wal-mart and he felt compelled to tell me this awesome story of how he got drunk, wrecked his truck in a ditch somewhere and walked home. Only to be arrested the following day and released the day before he met me.

People wondered why I moved...

I guess what I meant to say was it lowers the inhibitions that prevent you from doing stupid things. Either way you're correct that it affects people in different ways.

I've never done any drugs myself (not even prescription) and personally I still think they should be legal. The only reason is because if you make them illegal you're leaving room for a black market. Just like the prohibition era making ol' Mary Jane illegal will only create criminals. Plus I think if you want to screw your own body, do it, not my problem.

I drink and smoke just about everyday, afterwork, and then after school. I smoke constantly , but I've only done weed maybe 3-4 times and that was i think about 3 years ago.

I'm just annoyed about the logic of the legislation. Allow everything or forbid everything but allow just alcohol and tobacco and forbid marijuana? It doesn't make any sense for me.

-Alcohol: Sucks, can change your life like what happened to me so I quit that shit.
-Weed: awesome, temporary quit till i graduate. Should be legal.
-Cigarettes: Pointless, why fuck your lungs over and have shit breathe.

Aside from those I've experienced other "drugs".
-Vicodin: Good in moderation.
-DXM: Sucks, you feel sick high on it
-Nutmeg: Complete bullshit, spices don't get you high, i tried it, you feel sick and sleepy, though you stay awake for days.
-Oxycodones: Blew a couple of them one day just to see what would happen, It was an alright high just I was really sleepy but it was sort of fun.
-Xanax: Tried it, you don't feel high just very sociable, though I was offered a prescription for it due to my anxiety after my cousins death, turned it down because I have heard things about it that you get so addicted to them you need them all the time.

Drugs I want to try.
-Acid
-Shrooms

Where the fuck do I pickup acid tabs or shrooms in Massachusetts?

Drugs is really a weird topic, considering it depends on which country you live in on whats legal and whats illegal. Some countires weed are legal some they aren't. It's the same with a lot of other drugs.

In norway, their pretty much all illegal. A lot of doctor-drugs are illegal here even because they like to pretend their all that and it's dangerous when most of the world uses the same drugs without putting them on the bad list.

Personally, I love cigarettes. As a child I used to sneak into my brothers bed when he was out and fall asleep. His bed of course would reak of cigarettes it was lovely. I honestly don't smoke since I got asthma (is that how you write it?) But I think I'm one of the few that actually like the taste and smell of smoke, most of my old friends always started smoking to be cool or because of pressure and never stopped because 1. it calms nerves and 2. it's addicting.

I have tried a few drugs, mostly because of my parents. My mother is one of those people that never wanted to grow up, and decided to party till she was 50 which usually meant a lot of parties with drugs. These days all she does is smoke weed but she swears it's because of pain which she refuses to give me any details about.

Either way, my mother always believed in giving me information about drugs and sex, what was bad, what could kill me and so on. I stayed away from the most dangerous drugs that could easily kill you if you took just a tiny bit to much. But I still tried around and didn't see the big fuzz about it.

Sure most of the law says it's illegal, but why? Because some of them are dangerous, can make people loose themselves for a period of time. Yes there are the drugs that make you go sloppy and dead like but the drugs that make you hyper: God knows what you might do. Either way I've had a lot of friends whose done drugs with me around and I never made a fuzz, I just respect my body a bit more then to do it to myself.

Oh, I'm totally ignoring your questions, I don't know what should be legal and at what age. I don't think age restriction matters, where I live I see 13 year olds drunk on the streets every weekend, I don't see them following the 18+ for beer and 21+ for anything stronger. As to what should be legal or not, I think it kind of the criminals fault, most people that try make a profit off drugs put in all kind of crap in there to make a higher profit without spending a lot of cash. Which is why it became illegal in the first place in a lot of countries because people started dying from ODs.

and.. the side effects of course...

I currently smoke.
I've drank alcohol before.
I've messed around with weed and perc.

I have no problem against drugs/alcohol. Everybody who tries it knows the risks of it. Smoking can lead to cancer. Drugs can lead to death and serious side affects. Drinking can cause liver disease.

We're old enough to know the consequences.

I've been scared straight of drugs and alcohol ever since my 8th birthday. At that time I asked my mom if I could have one of her beers (I swear I thought it was pop). She said okay and I really liked the taste. I asked her if i could have another bottle, but she said no. I wasn't satisfied with one bottle so I snuck another one while she was in the shower. Big fucking mistake on my part. Being so small, my body couldn't take that much alcohol, so needless to say I got pretty fucked up. I threw up all over the living room and started chasing my little brother around like a wild animal (scared the shit out of him). My mom thought it was a big joke and couldn't stop laughing. I took a nap and woke up with a hangover. My mom had to go somewhere and didn't want to leave me alone in the house so she took me with her. She practically had to drag me down the street because I couldn't stand straight. Everybody was staring at us like we were some sort of circus attraction. I'm not sure what happened after that, but that was without a doubt the worst day of my life.

Anyways thanks to that little incident I haven't touched a beer and won't even consider doing any drugs. I still don't understand why some people go to great lengths to get that fucked up in the first place.

It's true enough that it's pretty fucked up that people drink and get like that. It's all a matter of self-control. I mean, I enjoy getting wasted, and sure, I do some stupid stuff, but I've never regretted anything I've done while being drunk.

Why?

Cause being drunk doesn't mean you can't think, and if needed, concentrate enough to sober up. That's why I can enjoy both the taste of alcholic drinks AND be drunk, and have fun while I'm at it. No, I don't HAVE to be drunk to have fun, but the fun gets even funnier. And hangover is something you can learn to avoid.

Have you heard of Vapor Cigarettes? I plan on giving these to my grandma since she's a heavy smoker. Its not a great substitute, but its better than the real thing.

I used to be Straight Edge in high school. While I've given up on associating myself with a bunch of assholes who beat the shit out of people at concerts, I still don't do drugs or alcohol. I'm very stingy about it. I won't even let people cook with wine. Yes, I know it burns off the alcohol when you cook, but it is a pet peeve of mine nonetheless.

I prefer if someone doesn't smoke next to me, but otherwise I don't care what anyone else around me does. I'm not here to judge what someone else does with their life.

I'm just worried that if weed became legal, shit won't get done and the economy will decline even more.

Alcohol isn't a problem it's just the people that drink it. At parties you always get these assholes that don't finish their beers they just drink a sip, hide the rest of their beer somewhere and act drunk. People should drink more responsibly.

well Super Scrub.. there are several countries where weed IS legal and it seems to me that their still surviving as a country.

Take the netherlands as an example. Heard that the locals don't even do it much, just the tourists. Seems like legalization will drop the excitement of it all.

Yeah. that's what I've always thought. My parents always told me about life, and never said I wasn't allowed to try out drugs, or have sex, or smoke cigarettes they always told me to use protection, don't smoke in my bed and don't get addicted to drugs. And I've always felt that because I was allowed there wasn't as much fun in it so when all my friends ran around being crazy I kind of just stuck with the normal stuff.

Alcohol: Seeing as alcoholism has run and ruined my family i don't like it. I think the aged should be raised to 25 for males and 27 for females. The human body produces enzymes that at away alcohol, but they aren't full developed and your body itself is not ready for more than a small amount (half-glass) until 25 in males and most women don't have a strong resistance to alcohol, unless they wait longer/ abuse it.

Smoking: It kills you quicker, the earlier you start the quicker you die. 18 is good, maybe even 16. If you want cancer, i wont stop you.

Weed: In the US your aloud to grow 6 plants, its too low amount for selling so as long as your not in public your good. It kills brain cells, some regenerate, some don't. It kills lung cells, some regen, some don't. I think 6 plants is good enough.

Narcotics: If you want to do something in your own home it should be aloud, but not out in the real world.

Well, I wont say its not true, cause it is. The chance of getting lungcancer if you smoke increase alot.
But the fact is that if you don't already have lungcancer geneticly passed down, then the chances that you will get it is like... 1/100000. People who is said to die cause of cigarettes usually already has a large risk of getting cancer in the first place.

It's a much larger chance that you will get COPD, which is ofc very dangerous, but only everyday heavy smokers get it by smoking cigarettes.