Getting arrested because of hentai

Really? Customs now can look into your personal books? :/ This situation seems incredulous. Perhaps he was moving the manga for commercial purposes that they HAD to be checked. If that's the law in Canada then he should have been aware before bringing all that into the country. Dura lex sed lex.

[quote="animefreak_usa"]Loli is cp under certain contents and countries. Virtual child porn( which loli manga and hentai is) was illegal in the us from 98-02. That law was oveturn on a first amendment violation and replace with a law that still list loli has illegal under miller vs california.. if it passes the miller test then it not legal nor illegal to have or trade, but sell in a open market is still debatable. Pretty much if it non realistic then it in that gray area with extreme bondage and peudo snuff.

This is just my states law.. you have to see what your area does.

Shes right! according to the law you cannot obtain any child pornography and get caught with it even if its loli. Kinda strange that they could tell whither or not it was loli pornography.

Understand that child porn no matter what format is still child porn, the government and people will not care if its manga, loli, or whatever you want to call it. people dont care, if it has a kid having sex or someone that looks like a kid going through customs with that will land you in jail. period. but to be arrested for regular manga or doujinshi is absolutely absurd. but child porn is not.

I can understand if it is loli as it is the depiction of underage girls

It still shows an unfortunate interest in children sexually. For a while I felt myself drifting into pedophilia, but a quick boycott of loli sent me back to normal. Slippery slopes, man.

i cant deny that loli=underaged anime girl, meaning loli hentai=CP. i have my opinion, but ill look for more info

I enjoy manga and hentai, but the law is the law. I recently made a post to say that even if you look and read lolicon (I use the term reading loosely since there is a distinction between curiosity and obsession), that doesn't classify you as a pedophile, but the truth of the matter is that there are those who are and do.

I can understand why hentai gets a bad rep. Horny people come to a site to jerk off and like to fantasize about some of the things they read. I was lonely, I was horny, and this was one of the first sites I came to and found this sort of material. I decided to join the forums because I enjoyed some of the quirky people's posts and found that I wasn't alone in being an otaku videogaming pervert of a girl. I came to realize that I am not so different from others and came to accept the things I questioned and was afraid of within myself.

If they end up making hentai illegal, there is not much to be done about this since the law is the law. The truth of the matter is, porn is a part of society. Erotic fiction has been around for as long as humans have been on this earth and will continue to be around till the day we die. Age is always a big issue however, to which hentai and manga has been an issue in various states for some time now over this. I think people will just have to wait-and-see and abide by the law if such things happen.

where i live theres a saying "quien hizo la ley hizo la trampa" (who made the law, also made a way to evade it) that whould be the rough translation

What rock you been hiding under? Governments around the world have been doing such things for a long time now. Including here in the states.

Solution? Hide your loli manga in hardcore old man porn.


But back to being serious, yes him getting arrested is shitty. And to top it off, he could have just put the manga on his phone or ipod or something to read from on the plane without getting ass-mangled by customs.

Not saying im into lolicon, cause im not, but if someone is sexually atracted t ochildren, and they get hentai to avoid cp and being a pedo, i think that is fine. I think that they are aknoledge tahgt they have a weired sexual complex and are dealing with it.

Also, customs is super uptight becasue if something gets through, its on them and they can lose their jobs.

Excellent post, from the newcomer!
Indeed, the problem with all slippery slope and 'bad thoughts lead to bad things' argument is that it turns the cops into a thought police.

I suggest reading up on the concept of negative liberty as invented by Isaiah Berlin if you can't grasp how fundamentally different that is from what intended job of law enforcement should be in a democratic society.

(Also, further details on the whole loli debacle can be found in my signature).

To me, saying reading loli hentai creates child molesters is like saying playing violent video games creates killers. I haven't seen any scientific studies that prove either of those. Though that being said, I refuse to download any loli hentai for my fear of the FBI knocking down my door at the same moment.

I wouldn't agree that (the idea that games/loli make killers/molesters) but I don't think the Loli issue ends here. I'm not going to argue the perfection of the legal system either. But there is a slight edge here which is the following:

It can be that people just like Loli drawings or it can be that they like the real stuff and they use Loli as an alternative. If we face the first one, the only discussion would be whether it is moral to create underage characters in sexual scenarios. The strong counter-argument being «They are drawings, not real people». Personally, as risking a brave and courageous negative vote, I think it is a bit odd that you specifically like Hentai characters that are made specefically to look young but whatever, I won't lose sleep over it. In that case, to each their own, we might as well move on. However, in the second scenario, Loli does not make child molesters but child molesters find Loli. In that case, the law makers have a point.

Naturally, I'm not saying all Loli people are child molesters but it seems quite dumb to say there aren't any. In all likelihood, there are. The perhaps positive side to this would be that Loli can be a replacement to supress the urge to criminal action. Either way, I think the debate is open to both ways. Neither side can end it with a few sentences.

Their intentions are not bad... Its called prevention, but sometimes the laws aren't well interpreted. This man got very unlucky, but as Canada is a very comprehensive place, in the end probably he is fine... Or I hope so.

I personally think that Loli hentai is the best option for people who are into cp, I myself am not into it. But when there is Loli hentai, no children are harmed, there is material for pedophiles to jack off to, nobody is hurt, its like win win for everybody!