global warming : who/what to blame,and what should we do?

the title is self-explanatory.
your opinion?

A mixture of human society, specifically the industrial revolution of various nations, and volcanic activity that is at an all-time high. Moving to more "green" sources of power is a good start, letting nature take it's course the rest of the way and simply adapting around it is the next most important step. The next time we face global warming, due to nature, or an ice age, we will be prepared if we are still alive when it happens.

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damn.you (almost) kill this topic with that drawing :D
nice one.
its useless unless people are doing the things depicted in the picture,though.
(i was hoping that this topic will be filled with heated argument before it dies though....)

Meh, global warming won't be acted on in time to actually solve anything. It's a global problem, and a long term one. Until it becomes something that is right in front of our faces causing problems that you can point to with 100% confidence as being caused by it, no one will act. People will just procrastinate and put it off. Maybe they should change the name to "Global Superheating that is going to melt your face off" and people will actually start realizing that something needs to be done soon.

Ahh the joys of leaving messes to future generations so we have less work to do ourselves, a time honored tradition.

I'm fairly certain your all going to dissagree with me on this. But if you ask me, the whole issue is irrelevant. The earth itself has released thousands of times more greenhouse gasses on it's own causing global warming naturally. Typically, this would trigger a global cooling trend leading to an ice age. For example, when the first supercontenent formed the earth was spilling MASSIVE amounts of volcanic greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere, which triggered the first ice age (commonly known as the snowball earth). Now don't get me wrong these are issues that do need to be addressed. I'm just saying the planet has it's own means of dealing with this. Also, on a geological time line. The entire human existence is basically the equivalent of a really bad full body rash.

Well, that bad body rash is still festering and isn't going away anytime soon. (Unless we pull out all stops in a World War III nuclear warfare... then problem is solved in a sense.)

Bad joke aside, we humans have definitely contributed much to global warming, especially from overpopulation, emerging technology, and general ignorance. Most important thing I believe is that we can at least tone down the amount of greenhouse gasses if we can't prevent it. Such actions are already in place.

Agreed. However, I doubt we will have the technology or the motivation to do anything about (that will really make a difference) until it is way too late.

I don't believe "Global Warming" exists, and if it did it is a natural occurrence.

interesting.could you please elaborate?
or perhaps you are saying that the global warming is a story made by al gore &co?

oh it does exist, and it does occur naturally. However, Humans are contributors (at least in some small part). I don't believe ther is much we can do about it. nature has it's course, and we are powerless against it.

Exactly, instead of relying on Governments to enact laws to do anything (They drag their heels anyways, look at every major event they needed to act). We should have just done it on out own. Though Global Warming exists I agree with omnicide. The Earth Naturally heats and cools itself. Events like the Ice Age (Though causes by a comet) and the Little Ice Age (Read up on it I won't explain it here) are examples of the earth regulating itself. If The entire industrialized world is to blame then its far too late to try and change things since by the time we get all the factories and Green House gas emissions under control we will all be under water anyways.

Sure, using green technology is a good idea. Using resources that have infinite use instead of using resources that have a finite number is just a good idea. Since if the Sun goes out we have A LOT BIGGER problem than just "OMG I can't get to work" and if the wind stops then we have a problem as well. I hardly doubt its human involvement that has warmed the earth. Sun activity and other variable factors outside out control have much more to do with the heating of the earth than mere humans. Though if we keep kicking the planet in the teeth then all these eco-"Friendly" people who claim its humans who are the problem will eventually be right.

There are differing views on the issue of global warming, with some believing that it is one big conspiracy, while others exaggerating the actual problem.

In my opinion, humans have contributed to the problem of global warming, as least in recent times. Our reliance on technology and convenience has inevitably led us down this path, especially in the use of fuels.

One does not have to change his/her lifestyle drastically, such as using candles instead of electricity, but every small bit helps save our planet, or so I hope. Turning off the switch when the appliance is not in use is just one example.

The most amusing thing about the whole "it's a natural phenominon, it's cyclical and we're not at fault thing?"

Not a single legit scientist has proclaimed that as truth. The ONLY people saying that are politicians and news pundants, simply so they can get what they want. Not a single scientist who specilizes in that field will tell you that global warming is just a hoax, because it's not. Do some research yourself and look at the actual number for the last 30 or 100 years (or what is predicted for the next 100) compared to what the usual cycle is, then start talking to me about how natural and cyclical it is.

my spanish teacher said there wuz no such thing az global warming (he teaches everything but spanish) id xplain it 2 u guys but i dnt feel lik it rit now mayb later.

Unless he has actual data and true scientific theory to back up why he believes there is no such thing, then I wouldn't take him at his word if I were you.

Pff... Who needs scientific data? There's no such thing and there never will be. If anything the world will get colder before we have to worry about anything.

Ever heard of Fimbulvetr?

Awesome, I could become a Mercenary. I always wanted to be one of those! Plus, I'm pretty safe since I don't have any brothers to worry about killing me.

Not entirely, core samples of antarctic ice have shown that many times throughout history that greenhouse gasses became highly concentrated. usually right before a major ice age. Personally I do believe there are small ways inwhich we can slow the process, but eventually it is going to happen again. Currently though, we are speeding up the process exponentially (I think I spelled that right). By no means am I trying to support the bullshit spouted by politicians. Those fukkers and the oil companies are the ones who say it doesn't exist. What I'm saying is it does exist, and every so often it does occur naturally. However, it is begining to occur at a much more rapid rate. Dammit, if I could only remember the name of that documentary (it was about an alternate fuel source. Basically methane compressed into a solid form by the pressure of the deep ocean. At some point in history it's theorised that a large amount of this stuff broke off and evaporated, causing a huge jump in greenhouse gasses).

The fact is though that we are producing greenhouse gasses constantly and exponentially means that us humans are actively making things worse for the environment. An Inconvient Truth by Al Gore was a shitload of political propaganda, but it does contain much truth about our actions as a whole.