Haiti

But the thing is, with all the donations coming in, I'm pretty sure there IS enough food to go around. They're giving out 3 meal a day rations, and the response time for this has been really quick, so they really can't be TOO bad off, can they?

Sure, wanting food is one thing, but looting the food trucks and hoarding food when your fellow man who may have just lived down the street needs it is just messed up.

I'm pretty sure Azuran is talking about average people, not the government. In other words, most of the people in this thread. He's saying that a lot of regular Americans are saying "Fuck Haiti" right now, but if/when another natural disaster hits America, these same people will be crying out for the help of other countries.

As for the actual topic, I also care, on an emotional level. If I was rich, I'd donate a ton of money to this, but I'm the opposite of rich, so I have to worry about staying alive myself. Anyways, I don't know how people could not care, but I also don't know how people can not care when they hear about a murder victim or hit-and-run victim on the news. Whenever I hear about someone dying, I care. It's not always a lot, but there's this thing called empathy that makes me feel, even if just for a second, bad because of the loved ones left behind, or because of the pain and fear the departed must have felt. I don't sit up at night and cry about it, and I don't let it ruin my day, but I still care.

Haiti may be the poorest country on the planet, but that doesn't make the lives of those lost any less important. A life is a life, and each one has the same importance, in a big picture sort of way. (Whether that importance is a "1" or a "10" on a scale is up to you, but all lives have that same rank.) Like I think someone said earlier, this incident is worse than 9/11 to me, because far more people died. It shames me as a human, and as an American, that people (generally, not anyone specific) can write off this tragedy, and forget it in a few months, but still talk about the losses of 9/11, when it happened over eight years ago. Not necessarily related to this topic, but I felt like saying it.

Thats southpark dude, a pretty funny messed up show like JACKASS.So if you "learn" any values from them I doubt you can use it in RL.

Vegas, well I guess yeah if the situation is like so it doesnt really justify this behavior, everyone can just survive if theyd all just cooperate. Some people are just... plain selfish and really dont care about other people, I mean this is even just simple, just looting the food and not anything like actually killing people unlike in other parts of the world. It doesnt seem to make logical sense at times but, thats just how people are... I wonder, would we really act so differently if we're not merely the spectators, I dont think I would I dont think you would but we're not there and its not happening to us

daryk... so you mean peruvian pan flute bands dont really prevent giant furry guinea pigs from destroying mankind and injecting cash to your blood stream doesnt cure AIDS? It was all a lie???

I didn't really care about those situations either. I'm not going to donate my money when I have to take care of myself. As I said in my earlier post, people are less likely to care in these situations if they're financially unable to 'spread their care.'

I'd rather have my bills paid and food in my fridge, which is all but empty at this point.

I know. I'm so awful.

And bananas don't calm peed-on-victims? And Saddam Hussein wasn't killed by wild boars and now doesn't rule hell together with satan? You're joking, right?
But the great Queen Spider, leading the catholic church is at least real, isn't it?

gsus, you could be wrong there; Satan did have a love affair with Saddam but after consulting with Jesus, he decided to dump him so he now rules hell alone.

:) Of course, how could I forget that. Thanks for the enlightenment. BUT: he did consult god, not Jesus. And God is a buddhist. =)

On Topic:
I find it harsh and unfair giving Longevity -2 Reputation for this Thread.
But anyways: at a german newspaper called "tageszeitung"(just "daily newspaper" in english, I guess), some authors are concerned about the really big number of soldiers, sent to Haiti.(instead of more people from public social aid organizations) They write about the idea, that the USA can't stand this unstable state near their territory and want to use this possibility to semi-occupy the country. Anyone any thoughts about this?

gsus, hmmm you might be right there, yes I remember it now. I am not really that good with world history.

Anyway, maybe Fakku can do something related to this Haiti matter as a community, it can be for promoting the brand name or for em humanitarian reasons. Wont in be nice, a hentai community doing such great deeds

Africa says : HEY WE'VE BEEN IN SHIT FOR FUCKING YEARS! WHY HAITI GETTING AHEAD?

It is possible to donate money to different countries in Africa (and almost any other country in the world that is in deep shit) if you care enough to bother looking it up.

Haiti is getting 'ahead' because Mother Earth decided to turn it into dust a few days ago.

Actually, people have been helping Africa for YEARS, if not DECADES. And yet they're still fucked over.

Also noteworthy is that America has long has an interest in Haiti, probably since or a little bit after Woodrow Wilson invaded Haiti, took over, and installed a president that had America's interests in mind.

I'll be honest, I didn't read the entire thread, because it is 1:30AM and I am freakin tired.


My personal opinion is.

There is this country that is in economical crisis, it cannot afford to give its own citizens jobs, homes, food. School budgets are being cut beyond belief among other budget cuts all around. The state of California is actually expected to be completely bankrupt by April (anyone remember the IOU's from last year?), there are 70,000 starving children in Los Angeles ALONE. Yet we are sending millions upon millions of dollars to a tiny 3rd world country, just like the rest of the world.

Good job America, bravo. I'm all for altruism, but you've gotta take care of yourself so that you can take care of others.

Those didn't concern me much either. I clearly remember when 9/11 happened, being in school where no one was willing to tell us what had happened, but we were being sent home early and could talk to our parents about it, then getting home, seeing my mom in front of the TV, watching for a bit, then thinking, "I don't get it. That's it?" It took me a few weeks to come to some sort of understanding as to why most of the people around me seemed to care so much when they didn't even know anyone around New York at the time.
I had a better understanding of people's reaction to that sort of thing when Katrina happened, so I was less confused, but I still didn't care.

Where these things happen is of little concern to me, unless it's around me or someone I like.



Somalia and Ethiopia are both pretty hardcore fucked.