Hentai vs Reality

I'm not talking oversized boobs, or unrealistic anatomy, that is all very obvious.
Basically, let's talk about how some genres in hentai that we like would translate into real life situations. Would they still be a turn on for you, or would there be too many problems?
We all love squishy asses, but maybe you actually hate anal sex? Do guys really feel that interested in anal? What about forced or netotare, or group!
But first lets establish some rules- no kink shaming or senseless arguing. If someone says they really like/dislike a certain kink/fetish, but you strongly oppose their viewpoint, please phrase your reply as "i see your point/understand but i think ___ because ___" or "i dont quite understand that, could you try to explain that?"
For example someone might say they really like fem dom and you might disagree. This doesnt mean you should make a mindless comment about how power play is wrong, instead you should mention why you feel it is wrong and ask for their opinion.
Lets keep this kind, everyone! I know this has the possibility of starting some arguments, because it involves morals and how one might react to kinks, but its best to be civil and professional!
[size=12]TLDR: lets talk about hentai kinks irl, but please be civil![/h]

Well, I pretty much have every type of fetish, so I'll be cool with almost any hentai-style situation in real life.

The only one I would generally avoid is forced. Not just because it's illegal, but because I always feel really bad when I hurt someone. If I had a partner who was into rape scenarios, though, I would be fine with doing that with them. I'd just like to know they're cool with it.

Also, a quick word on pregnancy. Whilst I do feel it's a very loving thing to impregnate your loving partner (assuming they're cool with it), I don't want children. I kind of want to be sterile, so I could come inside my lover as much as I want.

I'm pretty interested in what other people are gonna say on this...

If I were to interpreter your question as, "Do your hentai fantasies add up in rl to be similar and as great?".

Fellatio and cunnilingus are a lot cleaner and prettier, and smell a lot better in hentai. Men/women always start out as experts at it in hentai too.

Fem Dom is a lot easier to get into in hentai because the characters can recover from any type of physical trauma on the next page.

Anal, kind of the same reason as the last 2, cleaner, smells better, and can be cleaned on the next page.

Exhibitionism, in hentai, it never has real world consequences. Theirs also no weather, doing it in the park at night here, would get you pneumonia.

Bondage, same as Fem Dom. As well, it's free in hentai to make those ridiculous contraptions.

Rape/NTR, within hentai, the characters are objects acting out a fantasy for the creator and readers. With real life, they are real people with their own desires, emotions, and will.

FootJob, in hentai, it always feels good, every girl, even if they never did it before, is a pro... In real life... ~whimper~

Tentacles, mildly interested in it in hentai, RL, I've seen the porno's.... no.

Loli/shota, same as rape. I don't consider it, I keep my hentai fantasies strictly out of my real life fantasies, or at least, with regards to this and rape/ntr. In real life, I prefer a consenting partner who knows what they are getting involved in and fully understand the meaning and consequences involved, underage can never fulfill that requirement, most young adults (19-24) can't even... (really hard subject to talk about) -_-"

Big breast, in hentai, are not affected by gravity, more-or-less simply alive, in real life, cause a huge list of serious health issues if not attended too.

Shapely hips/nice ass, this translates well both ways I suppose.

Long legs/feet, mostly same, disregarding smell.

Long hair/short hair/styled hair, as long as it's not over the top as some animes/hentais can get, works both ways. As well, ignoring the effort it takes to manage hair.

Heels, both ways.

Fashion/well groomed, both ways. Ignoring price tags in RL.

Glasses, same way, ignoring the need for caution during sex, out of the possibility of breaking them in RL.

Intelligence, same way.

Adults, same way.

Yukata's, same I think.

Office Ladies/Business Ladies fantasies, same.

Kind heart/forward, aggressive/kinky, dirty/Dere's/ect, only add up to characachers in hentai, I can't take them seriously, I've never once met a person so simple as to only ever have 1 or 2 traits to their entire personality. They can be interesting in Anime/Hentai but not in real life, it'd make for a very boring relationship for most of the time were together. I've already had a similar like relationship, of every conversation being the exact same kind of emotional response, never challenging, and constantly looking to do what I want... just makes you feel like your dating something hollow inside, or even guilty, as if your imposing your will/desires onto your partner. Ya, not interested in it in RL.

Straight(sex), easier in hentai, no mess, no clean up.

Yaoi/Yuri, same as sex, as for the other, not possible for my gender. As for watching 2 others committing it, if it's not porn, then it's the same as my sports/physical activity philosophy, "if I can go and participate in the activity myself, why should I sit here and watch others do it instead", a "I don't want to sit on the side lines just watching" mentality.

Crossdressing, much, MUCH, higher standards for real life (I have), while in anime/hentai everyone looks perfectly like their crossdressing gender.

Futanari, doesn't exist in rl, but I have seen to Asian porno's with fake futanari... ya... they didn't sell me on the idea, for one of them I just couldn't stop laughing at it all... In my defense, they were being purposely stupid.

Straight(vanilla), same both ways, inclusive to the stuff above.

Group sex, it can be interesting in hentai, in real life... hmm. A group of guys with one girl is kind of, off putting, for me. A bunch of hairy, ungroomed/dirty, stinky, rough, going through the motions guys taking their turn with one girl who's barely feeling anything from them, not as pleasant looking as hentai. The reverse, wow a double standard on my part, I'm assuming the girls are cleaner and more into it, but most likely not. Probably the same as the guy one for the most part, theirs also the problem that, women can, most often, go longer than men. Either way, it'd be mostly emotionless sex, which I am not to interested in, in RL. (STD's being one of the biggest reasons)

Roleplay (Like office lady), works both ways.

Half humans/humanoid creatures, works out in hentai, because they are most often positive fantasies, but the real world (fantasy) stories they are based off of never ended well for the people involved... So I can't say I'd even want to meet a Lamia, Mermaid, Jorōgumo, Yuki-onna, Succubus, Lilim, ect... in Rl, seeing as what there original stories depicted... I don't think I'd survive the encounter.

Reverse rape, if I am attracted to the person, don't have other romantic obligations, the person is interested in more than just sex, and their is very little coarsing necessary/involved, then I can say works both ways.

Being the dom/forceful partner(not rape), I do have a sadistic side, but I'm far to timid in real life to, or at least, I haven't met someone I could be comfortable with acting in such a way with. So, it's one sided in hentai for me.

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Anything else... Maybe 1 or 2 others I can't seem to remember.

This was an interesting journey to type out, some of this stuff I didn't know about myself. (Such shameful things... THE SHAME!!! Don't look at me!)

This is basically the way I am. I am very open and pretty much up for anything i guess, except yaoi cause need to switch genders for that XD. Otherwise Most of them I am up for the rest.

Bondage though depends on aggressive that gets. Not sure if I would go as far as what some of the hentai bondage mangas go to.

I would still be attracted to my kinks, at least I think so. Mostly Femdom and related things like Ashikoki and reverse rape(reversed forced) and other stuff. I do like a lot of fantasy things that simply aren't possible irl though. And if they were they aren't nearly as awesome. Cause 3D =/= 2D. Futa being bleh irl, the occasional tentacles is really disturbing and just not good at all irl if there were things like that.

Most of the stuff is realistically possible and I like it irl. Long Legs, certain hairstyles/colors I find really cute. Though I suppose this is assuming that when things do happen I'm with somebody in a relationship and we are just experimenting lol.

But maybe it is because I am not too into a lot of things that just aren't as awesome irl.

So is the only reason you wouldn't do yaoi stuff in real life because you can't be bothered with/don't want a sex change? Do you think you would do it if you were a guy?

And with bondage, yeah, I'd be cool so long as it isn't particularly painful.



You didn't talk about incest or osananajima. Which I'm interested in hearing your opinion on.

I do like incest material, though in RL, I could never be attracted to any of my relatives, not due to it being a taboo, but I wouldn't find their character attractive in anyone else in the first place.... I ended up writing a lot, but it was kind of a mess. I guess I'm not too particularly sure, since I don't believe in an exact point that one becomes mature enough and wise enough to be able to make their own decisions, as stated in previous post, I've known adults incapable of taking care of their own selves. I kind of hold it differently based on circumstances, I suppose...
-Underage x adult, not particularly, can't really get behind it.
-2 underage, depends on if they both reach the qualifications to conduct themselves as adults, in maturity and wisdom.
-2 adults, perfectly fine with.
(Ended up writing a lot again, but like this a bit better. I don't have a fixed opinion of this (still developing)... too many cultural concepts clashing, very interesting.)

Osananajimi is played out so much in Anime/Hentai, or in my case, I've been around long enough that, I've fallen out of love with it, so to speak. Being a childhood friend, alone, wouldn't cause me to be anymore attracted than I would be if this was not the case. It would be like, as an adult, knowing a person for 10 years and feeling attracted to them because of how long we've been together in a non-sexual/non-intimate manner.

Now if it was a "Golden Time" scenario, in which the person has clearly expressed romantic feelings for me, but for some reason we were separated and then reunited some years later, and they still hold those feelings for me, and I don't have any current romantic obligations to another, I'd be more than willing to attempt to return those feelings and find out if were compatible or not.

If it was simply unrequited love on my part, I would have acted at some point around when I discover these feelings, despite the risk, the reverse, same as last paragraph.

I generally agree with you on incest, but by underage, do you mean below the legal age of consent? Because that varies from country to country. If the underage party in 'underage x adult' was fully aware of the repercussions from the relationship, then I don't think I would have a problem with that. However, it would certainly be the most difficult to analyze, as it's pretty easy for an adult to manipulate a younger person to make them 'fall in love'.

And another thing on childhood friends, if you start a relationship, having known each other for a long time, you may be unable to remain friends if it goes badly.

Are we adressing the issue with gore here? Also, the concept of cosplay and catgirls. It's interested me but i have different tastes for real life and hentai.

That's the thing, I'm not really sure, with respect to all cultures, I can't choose a single defining age point, that's why I was using the open ended "underage". One of the biggest reason I find an inability to believe in a point of maturity is the different standards/qualifications for maturity that exist within different cultures. I'll adapt my personal view for the culture I am currently experiencing, but I don't use the same view for myself towards others. (Not that I don't want to give them equal treatment, but that I want to consider another as an individual, not an extension of myself.)

Were more inclined to follow "older" people with the perception that they are wiser and smarter than us, found especially children. In most cases, I find it hard to believe that age didn't play a huge part in persuasion for the minor. Me assuming the mindset of the child, would see it as the child replacing quite a bit of serious contemplation for trust in the adult to do it for them. But as I said, some mature faster than others, as well, age differences between the 2 does matter too, seeing as a 15 yr old and 18 yr old is vastly different than a 13yr old and a 40yr. Their may be situations in which the child is intelligent enough to make a well informed decision, and, in the US, once their 18, they can date however they want... I'm simply taking a skeptical approach towards the concept, because the one who ends up damaged is the child, if the adult has less than, genuine desires. The child's perception of the adult world can be warped by involving themselves with one bad adult in such a manner.



That's the risk you take with any relationship. There all gambles, getting closer means showing more of both your good and bad side, in which, as friends, can be hidden easier.

In most cases, childhood friends aren't too inclined to start relationships, most of the time they've already seen all the good and bad each other has to offer and is more inclined to chase after something they haven't experienced yet. Most childhood friends end up on a sibling level with one another.

In Japan culture, or at least in anime sub-culture, as children, they are more inclined to feel romantic feelings for one another, but I have to assume that's a part of their culture (or a fantasy product of the sub-culture) that persuades them in that manner. How do I put it, were more inclined towards new and exciting romantic relationships, as humans, than repetition of the same. It takes a tremendous amount of desire and effort, by both parties, to make a relationship last, so my pessimism doesn't view "childhood friend relationships" as much of a plus but more as a minus in terms of maintaining a relationship.

If we go from the other angle, the other person who may hold romantic feelings for you, will meet a large number of members of the opposite sex, and with the changing times, same sex, that they may also find attraction too. For one-sided feelings to last so long, despite all the possibilities for them to diminish existing along side them, the normally portrayed "to shy to admit" would have either given up and moved on or acted a long time ago. The idea of holding on to such feelings without expressing them is self torture, and unless they are inclined to masochistic tendencies, I don't see many people willing to ignore the possibility of people drifting into the arms of another, love is very selfish and greedy when it comes to the one you love.

Sorry I wrote a long statement, but this is really why I fell out of love with the concept, it's a beautiful idea, holding on to romantic feelings, despite all the adversity one may go through, holding them alone, never letting them diminish. But it's fairly unrealistic and torture in it's own right. The often, oblivious main male character not picking up on the female childhood friend's feelings, can only causes her pain. She's already agonizing over her feelings for the male, holding them in and as strongly as she is for as long as she has, ignoring all impulses to act or give up and move on. Again, it really just comes off as too unrealistic or too cruel, in most cases, for me.

That's why I hold a strong exception to "golden time", feelings made and expressed, from (around) the beginning (of the establishment of the feelings), constantly made, reinforced, and expressed throughout the time they are together, or "we were separated and reunited later in life" scenario's. The later being able to lead to, "a small flame now reignited" scenario, more-or-less.



I'm squeamish, I can barely stomach horrible fake looking comedic blood in movies, Guro/Vore, is way~ beyond my ability to even attempt... I occasionally play those 2d vore(not guro) plat-formers found in userupload, but that's more of an observation and studying endeavor towards 2d platformers and coding.

I forgot cosplay and cat girls... Cosplay yes, hmm, most cosplay looks really bad by comparison to the outfit in the series, it'd have to be high quality...

Cat girl... hmm... Their are a lot of concepts of humaniod cats/shapeshifting/talking. I guess most of them are harmless unless crossed, so I may be inclined to meet one.

hentai. but not every fetish, some are weird (vore,rape, ect.). i would love to live in a anime/hentai where everything was funny or sexy. i really counldn't see why not.

I can't comment on that from personal experience but, well... that sucks...



I've commented this somewhere around here (can't remember where) but I have seen a couple of transexuals who really do sell the idea of futanari. Not trying to be mean but most male to female transexuals have some clear male characteristics but not all of them... Some are ridiculously feminine. In hentai, the crazy ratio of Aphrodite-like bodies with Ares-like penises is a bit off but still...

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Now, as for my post:

Since my taste in hentai are pretty basic, the only one I can talk about is incest. In hentai, incest fantasies are a bit more «real» than in porn because a) they aren't blocked by acting skills and b) because, as far as the characters go, they really are related. Just a quick thought there. But no, incest in reality would be terrible. I think the reason it can be exciting in hentai or porn is precisely because it is not actually happening. To quote Billy Joel: «Sometimes a fantasy / Is all you need»

Other stuff like legs & feet, stockings, butts, breasts, yea, I like it in hentai but I don't see any reason why it would be better or worse in real life, be it in porn or actually doing it.

Aside from the more controversial ones people have already mentioned such as loli, rape and vore (this last one being something I don't even wanna look up), I'm interested in what people have to say about monster girls. It would take a lot of stones for one to say he really would be sexually attracted to a girl with bird wings or a snake body.

I know what you mean. Some people just do a really good job on that front. Although, generally, if were to find a transsexual I like, I would be attracted to them regardless of weather their features were perfectly feminine or not.



Yes, it's the classic fantasy of 'forbidden love'. It is mostly because of the social unacceptability of incest that most people like it, the idea that what you're doing is 'wrong' is something that is very titillating to a lot of people. If everyone treated incestuous relationships just like any other, then I suspect there would be a lot less porn/hentai which focused on the concept.
And whilst you may not do it yourself, what do you feel about other people doing it? Would you try to stop it?



I have the stones you're looking for. Well, sort of...

I'm an immense social coward, so I would have difficulty plucking up enough to ask even a regular girl out. But I don't think this difficulty would be exacerbated by a girl I liked being a monster girl.

Also, sexual attraction can be increased/brought about by the same feeling being expressed towards oneself by another. So I would say it is possible for most people to fall for such a girl, but lots of people would nonetheless be stopped by their ideas of normality from actually getting involved in a relationship.

To be honest, I don't know whether I wouldn't do it myself because it is a bit difficult to imagine myself in that situation and give an objective response because when I imagine it, it is already fantasy... But I do think it would be terrible afterward.

As far as other people doing it, I wouldn't like it to become general rule, otherwise the human race would be screwed but I'm a bit of an hardcore liberal. I value freedom (freedom of speech including) as one of the greatest ethical values so before asking what I feel about it, I have to say I wouldn't try to stop it as it is not my place to tell those people what to do with their bodies. How do I feel about it? I dunno but I can think of worse things.



As far as I know, the only sexual fetishes that involve «body stuff» (can't think of a better term, sorry) are amputee fetish and transexual. I could be, and probably am, wrong but those are the only ones that I can think of than involve specifications on the person's body other than positive or negative qualities about already existing traits (by positive and negative I mean increase and decrease respectively; an example of a positive one would be large breasts, an example of a negative one would be flat chest). A bit of ramble but what I'm getting at is that, even though there are fetishes that specify uncommon traits on a person's body, it seems very... fringe... to be attracted to something like monster girls in real life.

In hentai, it may work, I don't care. To each their own, have fun. But one thing you do in your comment is to create an hypothetical scenario in which you like the girl/transexual in question. Fair point but I think we should answer without that implication otherwise instead of sexuality we are talking about love and accepting our partners flaws. If I was a fantastic artist and you asked me to draw the perfect woman, I probably wouldn't draw her with a face scar. But I can think of at least one woman with a face scar that nearly drives me insane. P.S. Not Tina Fey although I wouldn't mind...

Well I don't do yaoi stuff cause uh yeah I am a girl lol. If I was a guy I guess I wouldn't be against trying it.

Yes, we are, here, looking at two separate instances. Sexual attraction and sexual fetishes.

What I was suggesting was that I would not be unattracted (or attracted) to a monster girl anymore than I would be to a 'normal' girl. I may find their monstrous parts attractive, I may not, depends on how it looks. It wouldn't really be a flaw, in my opinion. To me it's like comparing hair color. A certain hair color may not look good on someone, but that doesn't mean all people with that hair color are unattractive.

Whereas you are talking about a fetish (or the opposite, which for lack of a better word I shall call an anti-fetish). I have no doubt that many people, in real life, would have an anti-fetish for monster girls, just as many (although few admit it) have an amputee anti-fetish. And because of all this anti-fetishism, those that do have a fetish for them would probably not admit it for fear of societal repercussions.

I've said before on Fakku that I have every type of fetish, but really what it is is that I have no anti-fetishes. There are no sexual fetishes that turn me off.

We can only agree to disagree on the hair color analogy. I think a girl can look very attractive with one hair color, change it and look significatly worse but it wouldn't change her that much. The problem I see with monster girls is that I can't really imagine them looking good to someone without that fetish. You could accuse me of bad visualization skills but, aside from it being hard to imagine from the get-to, I even have trouble imagining how someone who likes monster girl hentai would like it for real. Like in incest, I think there is, at leaast to some, a fantasy appeal to it.

If you say you have no anti-fetishes I have to take it since I have no way to prove it wrong and have no reason to doubt. But, again, much like in incest and, might I add, futanari, I think somethings get lost in translation. People enjoy incest and futanari hentai as they enjoy monster girl hentai. But, the same way they aren't attracted to their real life family members and since they don't all like transexuals, I think most wouldn't be into monster girls either.

This is a bit silly because whenever I think of a monster girl as I write this post, I just think of a snake lady, a medusa. I don't really understand the attraction to it in hentai (it's something I'd like to get some insight into) but, in real life, that would entail appreciating (whatever way that may be) the traits of a reptile. I don't wanna sound bigoted, especially since there are imaginary creatures, but translating them to real life and still being attracted seems fishy. It could be that I don't understand the fetish in the first place but I also think it gets lost in translation.

I didn't talk about changing your hair in my analogy. I said that the same color hair can look unattractive on one person, but attractive on another. Granted having monster parts is a far more significant aesthetic aspect than hair color. Or is it? These things may only be a big deal because they are different to our standards of 'normal'. Maybe it's because I don't consider them a big deal that I don't have an anti-fetish for them.

The key word you use is most. I agree that most people wouldn't enjoy real life incest, transexuals or monster girls. But that doesn't mean that nobody would. I would. And it doesn't necessarily have to be someone with a fetish. In fact, I would argue that most people that have a fetish for it in hentai would have one because of the 'forbidden love' aspect. So they probably wouldn't maintain the fetish in real life.

I've always found the story of Medusa to be a sad one (the later version, not the original myth). She was a very beautiful woman, who was raped by Poseidon, whose girlfriend Athena got mad and turned her into a hideous Gorgon out of jealousy. Then the protagonist, Perseus, calls this punishment just and well-earned! I would absolutely fuck Medusa! She deserves some love after all she went through.

And I'm not 100% sure I understand the fetish myself. But it's not like people can choose what they're turned on by.

I know but my take on it was essentially taking a person you are attracted to, for whatever physical reasons, and then changing it. I talked about changing the hair because it was your analogy.



I won't defend morality in Ancient Greek myths because, although they are really interesting, they aren't the greatest examples of it. (Athena was Poseidon's girlfriend? If that's true, I had no idea but I don't think so since Athena is Zeus' daughter and Zeus is Poseidon's brother. So... Anyway)

If you agree with me on the forbidden love thing, we have nothing else to discuss. I for one can't fathom this idea of real life monster girls but I also don't claim to understand or enjoy the fetish to being with. I think feminine feet are strong indicators of beauty and sensuality (I would say legs too but that's already half the woman). Which is why oh so many logos for pornsites and strip clubs and erotic novels feature legs, feet and quite often, heels. So, I can't begin to imagine a girl with a rattlesnake tail instead of feet lol

But if you like Medusa, go ahead. But if you're not careful she can get you hard just in the foreplay. And that's not a euphemism either.