Is It Ok To Hate A Group

If there's a thread about this plz direct really didn't know how to search for this.

This thread donned on me after seeing this Thread. Now while it appaers harmless if you look at the posts carefully people are appalled by even the thought of being gay. Saying things like "normal for me... gay is a no(obviously)" and "100% lesbian hate straight fucker Kill on sight gay people" and "i am not gay, thats just how it is." While I know some can say they are jokes I'm not so convinced. When people say obviously it implies that gay is not possible only weird people like that. See when you have to say things like i'm not gay it implies that your worried people with think you are and you have a problem with that and hence a problem with them. I get jokes I make gay, black, latino, white whatever jokes but I would never mean them. I find it disgusted when people blame something on a group, or hate people just because they fall into a category. I don't hate anyone for falling into a category I judge people on a person to person basis. It really bothers me that it's ok to say those kinds of things I know in the U.S it's free speech but I'm making a stand here and saying that it's wrong.

Am I alone on this matter or do others think hating people for being in that group is wrong?

No you aren't alone. I can definetly relate. I fall into quiet a few categories and run into stereotypes because of appearance alone. It can really alter one's mood and be quite depressing. But what can ya do?

Humans, most of 'em, are pre-judgemental, dumb, inconsiderate fucks.

Common Mindset "You aren't like me so I will hate you, judge you and label you."

The people in that thread were given 3 choices and they just pointed out the fact that they don't want to watch gay shit. They're not necessarily anti-gay like you think, they just don't get hard watching 2 guys kiss and sodomize one another. They are not sexually attracted to it. Are you? If not then I'm sure you'd pass on the gay as well.

No, it implies they're straight and don't like to see cocks.
Damn your logic is weird. When they say that, they are insecure about what people might think about them so they try to reassure themselves and others that they are straight. Once again, nothing to do about homophobia.(depends)
Sure it's not cool just to hate somebody because of a label put on them by society. I pretty much do just what Martin Luther King jr. used to say, "I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." Change the phrase "color of their skin" to "their label" and that's my shit.

This is mostly true. People tend to fear, and therefor hate or dislike, things that are too different from them.
This is probably because a long, long time ago, it could save your life to be defensive of something you didn't recognize. But now, it just makes you look like a jackass. There isn't any rational reason to hate other humans beings for being different.

Hmm...

So, is there no justifiable hatred of certain groups, ethnic or otherwise?

For instance, I happen to hate...let me get the list...

Gangtas
Far Left Extremists
Far Right Extremists
Religious Fanatics
Those who take the Muslim faith literally
Concerned Mothers
Feminists
Chauvinists, male and otherwise
Politicians
Red Fish
Blue Fish
One Fish
Two Fish...wait, this joke is stupid.

...

Back on track. Anyway, everything before Dr. Seuss happens to fall onto my "I hate you and wish you would die. Now, preferably." list. Does that make me a bad person?

I don't happen to think so. Typical distinctions such as Race (Which is another headache for me altogether. If you ask me, Human is a race, and Black/White/Whatfuckingever is merely a sub-category, at best.), Gender, Sexual Orientation, and etc mean shit to me.

I was only useing the thread as a starting point not a definite line for the topic it just got me thinking about this. Your post seems way off topic.
Ok so what I get from this is it's ok to just assume all men/women are straight because thats "normal" and gay people are out of the ordinary. When you say something like obviously it sends the message of course i'm straight i'm a guy/girl. Obviously divides the subject making one side dominat over the other. Well look at it this way what if in was a what race are you and I said i'm white obviously. So I would be saying is that FAKKU! members are white because thats who looks at hentai.

So they are worried about if people think they are gay? So it's the same thing as if I said hey I like fried chicken but hey dude i'm not black. That dosn't sound offensive to you?

Yeah I really like that quote too. I think it really defines what I want to get across.

The Muslim comment.
Whoa this is incredibly offensive. Please take it down.

You put it there, I reply to it.


My mistake, I unintentionally took it out of context. Saying obviously is pretty dumb and that's the guy's problem for uttering that.

LOL! that was a good unintentional lol there. No, it's not even close to being the same. If someone said to me, "I like fried chicken but hey dude i'm not black" I would call them a fucking moron because I can see with my eyes that they are not black. We can't see whether a person is gay or not(at least not all the time) so it's not that obvious.

But it's justified. Do you know the details of their faith?

Well it's not right to hate a group of people, but what are you really going to do about it? If people don't take action based on their hatred then leave them to it. As for the thread in question, each to their own, but you have to wonder why these people got the gay=bad stereotype into their head. But then again, you can expect almost everyone who frequents Fakku to be into girls in some way, shape or form, it's just pretty sad that so many of them are so negative toward the idea of Guy/guy love.

Some of the people in that thread were insecure, but insecurity is within the same category as fear, and fear + hatred tend to go hand in hand. People are quick to distance themselves from areas they themselves would discriminate against... You rarely see a middle class white guy say: well you know what I hate about this world: middle class white guys who waste their time talking about what they hate about the world. (they know it should be the Jews :roll:) ........okay well that's my joke for the day :P

Judge people on the content of their character, and don't discriminate indiscriminately.

Gays are the minority while straights are the majority. It is not unreasonable to assume that when speaking with someone that they are straight, it's just the safer bet. When you are taking a guess at anything you don't know don't you assume the most common answer?

Though in terms of "behavior", gays are the odd balls as they don't produce off spring which is the basic function of any species but, that is looking at it in a very black & white manner.

As for hating a specific group, my list is the same as Arizth's.



I disagree, it's a logical standpoint. Arizth is referring to if people take it word for word such as the gouging of ones eye if it causes you to sin and cutting off a hand if it causes you to sin. Unless, you think people should mutilate themselves...? No logical person would approve of the draconian methods in those Holy texts. Practicing the religion is fine but, when you take it too literally and start declaring Jihad on everything that moves, we've got a problem.

You can't say it better than this. But actually, as someone who's born a muslim (just guess what happens to my muslim "status" right now), i think the real problem with islam is not actually the jihad thingy. because, islam puts it as a must, before anything, for its practitioners to surrender their thoughts and will to the God, so that they can easily obey whatever that's commanded.

taken from islam101.net...

Islam, An Arabic word, rich in meaning. One important dimension is the "commitment to submit and surrender to God so that one can live in peace"; Peace (Salam) is achieved through active obedience to the revealed Commandments of God, for God is the Source of all Peace.

heh...see that? when you have people to let go of their reasoning, of course it's easy to make them believe and do anything, in the name of god, syari'ah, or whatever. of course that includes even mutilating yourself, or heck, their so-called jihad.

and yeah, my hate list includes almost all what Arizth put in...but...what's with those fishies?

Thank you! That was the first thing I was going to say.

Homosexuals make up, like, 5% of the population. It's possibly the smallest minority ever.

Plus, this is FAKKU! Not a lot of gay guys on Fakku, because that isn't really the demographic on this site. It's not discrimination; it's just the way it is. Jacob, Raze, and Nikon aren't gay or women, so they don't like looking at balls touching. When they made the site, they made it for people like them, the majority of the hentai fans on the internet, who are straight males. It's not odd to think that 99% of the users of Fakku are either straight males or gay females, with the other 1% being the people who just like to chat on the forums or whatever. (I'm not bringing up bisexuality because that'd make talking about percentages completely impossible.)

When a person on Fakku says, "I'm not gay (obviously)," the person is most likely referring to the fact that gay guys probably wouldn't like anything on Fakku.

Anyways, about hating groups, I'm with Arizth and Fpod, for the most part. I don't care what anyone says, I have never, ever, met a hardcore Feminist (or, FemiNazi) that I didn't hate and who didn't deserve to be shot into the sun. Those bitches are crazy.

Also, serial killers and child molesters. I think those are two groups we all have a right to hate.

As educated people we obliviously know that hating a group of people because of creed, race, nationality, or sex is wrong. There are times where we might of had a bad experience with a person of a different group, and then we assume that every person of the group are like that. We also might be influenced by family, friends, or beliefs to feel a certain discrimination towards some groups as well. Remember being wise also means to learn tolerance.





Remember we all bleed red.

not all AB-- bleed blue because it freezes at room tempreture or some other complecated shit
but on a serious note it's uncool to be malicous on some one because they are some type or in some group, we should all live together and let the ignorant fuck off

Its ok. You`re still ok. I`m worst, I hate people just because they are in the same country as mine.

Ok now I have to ask everyone else to remove it. I say this because I have studied Islam and know a little about it. It's horribly offensive and I just asking nicly for you guys to remove it.

On the matter of serial killers and rapest. I thought about this before and I'll bring up the insane. What if they really are insane and don't know what they did was wrong. Can you really hate them for doing something they didn't know was wrong. Some belive they are saving the world. You can hate what they did but can you really hate them? What about soldiers they are murders but they are just doing there job for their country. Some sinpers have over 200 kills one man over 200 kills. Yet for me it's the oppisite I am humbled by what they do. See this is why I say hating the group only leads to judging a person before you know them.

Although you may be asking nicely, I don't think any of them will censor themselves just because you claim that it's "horribly" offensive. Then again, from our talk earlier I understand you're not to fond of free speech. Another thing that muslims are known for condemning.

Aren't some divisions of Islam also into FGM? that's one group I feel damn good about hating; people who believe in female circumcision. I'd like to chop off the dick of anyone who believes in that disgusting practice.

Being insane isn't an excuse. There are typically signs that a person is crazy, and if a person doesn't seek help before he/she murders, then the person is still at fault, even if the person is certifiable. Furthermore, I'll take my chances with hating every serial killer and child molester, even if some are insane and not fully responsible for their actions, because there are a ton of them that aren't insane, and why let those off the hook just because some are? After all, even the crazy ones are still murderers.

As for soldiers, people typically say that soldiers are not "murderers," because they are just following orders. To murder is to do it by your own power. Still, I think some soldiers are not to be commended for killing a ton of people. Soldiers who fought in the Vietnam War and killed children, for example, aren't to be applauded for killing kids, though we should applaud them for doing service to their country (whatever that really means) or for going through something gruesome and coming back alive. Really, I don't think we should be glad that any soldier killed anybody; we should be happy that the soldier was willing to put his/her life on the life. We should be unhappy that people even need to be killed.

What? :?

Ok your saying that you hate insane people because they didn't seek help? WHAT? Ok being insane means you don't know what your doing is wrong. They didn't know it was wrong. They don't have the mental capacity to understand it. It's like if you gave a 6 year old a gun and told him to shot some body. Your saying that kid should be put in with real murders and hated by all?

On the matter of hating all killers that's what ths whole thread is about. Hating a people for being in a group. What about self defence? So there evil to? Cops kill people and I don't clump them in with the murders even know there in the category.

I'm normally pretty understanding about other groups and cultures. I subscribe to a sort of "live and let live" philosophy. That combined with the fact that I don't HATE easily. means that I'm normally pretty easy-going.

However if there is a group that directly opposes one of my core beliefs. or loudly proclaims their own IGNORANT beliefs. Then yes I hate them. Like MAVAV or MADD, or anti-marajuana groups