perfection

I'm still trying to come up with a response to this. I don't think its possible for a human to be "perfect." In fact, the nature of humanity does tend to lean very closely towards imperfection. I've found a lot of women in anime that are so much better than real people, but even they have flaws. I think the only way for me to describe a theoretically perfect woman would be to make some kind of composite using a whole bunch of women.

i dont think perfect existes at all the space time continum would rip apart or something.

perfection is as you make it for some one it could be a butt-ugly fat chick and for another it could be stick insect super-model as i said perfection is as you make it

that was a perfect explanation of perfection.

i concur

Anything related to perfection, we call that God or something of that nature. If there was such thing as a perfect wo/man, we wouldn't be having this debate, would we? It's one thing to look perfect, but it's another thing to act and BE perfect. Humans, for all their brains and morals, are quite the imperfect species. Nothing like a few thousand years of blood and war and rampant poverty to tarnish the human integrity. Moreover, I think that we humans try to find a person who is near perfection in their mind and stick with him/her, even if that's off by many personality traits. This is why I think anime and manga female characters tend to be the ideal mate due to their relative lack of complex personality traits and stable demeanors. They might have their faults, but they aren't as complex or fickle (I mean random) as real human females, and that appeals to our notion of perfection. Nor are anime/manga girls affected by pressures exerted on them by today's society or living conditions. On top of that, hentai portrays women as these nymphos where once the penis goes in, they turn into raving sex-starved beasts who want more sex. A plus for men, who often think with their dicks (lust factor when picking up girls), and a black eye for women who would never act in such a manner.

ahh good ol' g-money always has to go one better than the previous explanation well thats how i see it at least

Wow, g-money... impressive view on the subject. Repped.

Agreed, repped. He always seems to say what I want to say, but I never think of it myself. XD

I have to say, from my own personal experience there are plenty of otherwise well balanced and intelligent women that simply love cock and enjoy sex a lot. Many of them do turn into sex-starved beasts in the privacy of the bedroom, but seem like your normal average girl outside of that arena.

So if the sex is good at least, then yeah, women enjoy it and want it at least as much as men, sometimes even more. I've often been the girl in many of my relationships, the one claiming headaches because I just wasn't in the mood or didn't feel like cleaning up afterwards.

i think your being way to serious even for the serious discussion forum, its obviously a generalization. attributes of someone who could meet your wants and needs but dont have god mode on or anything, something realizable. i dont mean to be a prick or anything, id actually like to see what your looking for in a woman.



although g-money has a point i think hes only half right, im gonna side with ultenth. theres a time and a place for everything, although every woman isnt some kind of tiger prowling for sex given the right circumstances she'll pounce on you for the kill. theres a bunch of stereotypes pinned on both sexes that just dont match the majority out there, some men think with their dick only so much and some women get wet with anticipation before their man gets home.

Tatoeba. The hentai stereotype was just a example regarding "perfection". Hell, I know there's women out there who love sex for what it is and I totally appreciate that (I feel like I'm sex-driven too sometimes), but not every woman is like that, and hentai puts women in a bad spotlight by making women act like nymphos and melt at the touch of a man. However, that makes guys seem more attracted to anime/manga/hentai girls than real girls. Real girls wouldn't act all slovenly at the sight of dick, and some guys see anime/manga/hentai girls as more suited to their tastes and notions of a more perfect girl. This nymphoism (sp?) is just one of many examples that I believe men find anime/manga/hentai girls more attractive and perfect in our eyes. Then again, perfection is in the eye of the beholder, though I firmly believe there is no such thing as a perfect being unless we're talking something metaphysical.

Biglw17 brings up a very good point that brings light to the guy's perception of women. Not all guys think with their dicks, and I must admit that I was being unfair. (But hey, I know that when I approach a girl, it's because she's hot.) It's just part of my belief that guys of now are more thoughtful and passive. It's our turn to ask the girl out, not the other way around. That marks a shift in gender rules and societal pressure, and women now have the luxury and independence of choosing who they want to go out with. Not like there's anything wrong with that, but it's a fact and one I think men with less balls will have trouble with.

good greif what huge posts. :shock:

I'd much rather have his large and thoughful posts than 5 word ones that contribute nothing to the discussion. Way to get that post count up though... :roll:

And yes, I know what you are getting at, not every girl is a nympho. But there is also a stereotype in the US especially that it's not okay for women to like sex, and that if they do they are a slut. Tons of women like sex, many of them lots more than men. As a guy if you understand that if you actually put effort in and give good sex, that women won't hold the power in regards to sex and withholding it, because they want it just as much as you do if not more. If anything I wish the world of hentai and the puritan view of women having sex could meet in the middle somewhere. It's okay for women to want and enjoy sex, but that doesn't mean they have to go all crazy for any guy that shoves a cock in their face.

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perfection doesn't exist, since there's no exact way to define it, it all goes back to one's personal preferences in others(god, i feel like i've stated this more than 10 times in the forums now). possibly nothing is exact, absolute and certainly perfect. but since this looks like a man's talk discussion about how they look at beautiful women, i initially thought that this is suppose to be about appearances or imagery only, but u guys had to drag all your complex, confusing and intricate opinions about the female personalities and emotional stress they give to men in here, well, if u take that into consideration then it's more likely to prove the nonexistence of perfection in male perspectives of females(no women will ever be perfect in both looks and personalities, or either), same goes with animated humanoid figures, if perfection didn't exist in the first place, then it should be obvious that someone can't just "create" or "illustrate" it in a graphical style either.

but perfection "does" go along with certain theories(though i don't believe in any of them, but u're free to agree), one such as da vinci's portrait of a perfect existence that defines one's pictorial perception of perfection is his/her self illustrated perfectly by the opposite sex, oh thank god for the incoherency in that.

but all in all, when it comes down to a statement of sorts, i'd the say the pursue of this so called "perfection" is pointless and arrogant. u'll never find anyone perfectly compatible with u in all prospects, humans have flaws, they're either ugly or they get emotional over certain issues, anger, jealousy, hatred, endless imperfections, but if u look at it the other way, isn't "that" the fun in being human after all?

It is... yet at the same time, it's also quite the headache.

owned lol

but every1 here is right in there own way cuz its there opinion
and if they think that girl is perfect then she is
and if u think shes not then she isent simple as that
but w/e

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no, no it certainly isnt. lol i think id be far more content with a more then ideal world, fun could be walking outside your front door because the porch is a slide. and perfection is just a measurement of human ideology, a standard or criteria that has to be met flawlessly. a pile of shit could be perfect if it were tightly coiled with profuse stink lines, for example. perfection IS possible if the standard of perfection is either met or lowered for realization, but when talking about a significant other its essentially impossible, your right.

As for perfection: There is nothing like it. I think nature basicly did a pretty awesome job on developing on us humans to the point we are at now, though it would be boring if everything would be perfect and leave no room for improvement (I am not talking about plastic surgery or crap like that but rather personality)
As for things that I personaly like when it comes to looks / personality:

Not too thin. If I hug someone I don't want to feel every single bone.
Deep eyes. No matter which color as long as they look as if you could take a dive into them, fine.
Haircolor: Doesn't matter. As long as it goes with the person. Nature did a good job choosing our haircolor. I got nothing against coloring, but some colors don't suit persons.
Not too much makeup. As I said before, nature did a pretty good job. I like to see peoples faces and not a quint - layer - makeup skin.
Girls who dominate in a relationship. I am more of a calm / shy person so I like leaving control to others.
Most important: A good ammount of knowledge. No I don't mean being elite in everything but I sure like to talk about politics, religion, music, art, education and literature so a bit of brainpower doesn't hurt.

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ah, spare me of ur perplex yet seemingly-correct arguments, my friend, even though i do not feel the necessity to continue on with our discussion on perfection any further, well, i have to say what i want to say, so here's the deal, two concepts of perfections, one is exact and absolute, defined as "the" perfection, the other is arguably reasoned perfection aka "excellence", u're confusing me of the both to be mixed together, first perfection is undefinable and unrealizable, it doesn't exist, we have yet to come up with any ways to complete its either materialistic or spiritual forms, so it's outta the question, thus people come up with the paradox that defines absolute perfection as nothing but imperfection and the theory basically apply to everything from man's perspective on woman to technological advances. the latter one - excellence, however is just as u said, a standard or criteria that has to be met flawlessly, a mere human ideology, that can be reshaped, reformed and reconsidered, and most likely arguable in our irrelevant discussion to the original topic right here. so one word, two concepts, one strict, one loose, that's all and don't continue if u can(truth is, i'm tired of typin) :)

and correct me if i'm wrong but do u guys have something for humans, it seems like u are all perfectionists desiring an Utopian world that's perfectly ideal to live in or hoping for the next step of human evolution or somthin. lol