Strongly Against Medication

I abhor arguing other people's points in their place almost as much as self-medication but/and although I see your point:
Surely we can agree that the moderate cannabis consumption mentioned by the poster previous is quite a different dimension from a cocktail of painkillers and combined SSRIs/SNRIs.

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He alludes to your argument shootíng itself mildly in the foot when you juxtapose this part


with this one

For starters I studied psychology in high school in the advanced placement program. I thought the subject had a lot to offer it was unique and interesting. But, as read and obtained knowledge of psychiatry i learned most of this profession is "I hope this works." I even wanted to go in to the field of Psychology until i took the class. The drugs prescribed have side effects that do change peoples personalities. antidepressants and anti-anxiety peoples mellow people out so much it is hard for them to complete simple tasks i have a sibling who yous anti-anxiety pills they turn you in to a shell of your true self. I would and will refuse drugs as much as i could when i had my wisdom teeth removed i took painkillers for 2 days before stopping i was in terrible pain but i preferred pain to the feeling of nausea. Anti-anxiety also makes you feel ill and slowed down. Your friend should not be forced to do something that is against her beliefs unless shes harming other people. meditation is a unique and takes awhile to grasp but it helps with controlling a variety of problems.
I hope this was helpful P.S. around the 1930's psychologist gave people Ecstasy to help with love problems in turn people died. And, the drugs they use now have a variety of harmful affects some they haven't even figured out yet do to the youth of the drug.
Sincerly,
Howl Less Wolf

Ugh.



So... you studied psychology in highschool?

Given that psychology is a four year college course, at the mininum, do you think your studying in high school is comparable?




Psychiatry =/= psychology

Psychology is a 4 your college course.

Psychiatry is a 4 year medical specialization. It is 12 YEARS of training after high school, 10 or so if you attended colleges and hospitals with accelerated programs.

That you're confusing the two just illustrates how much you really know. That's ok; most people mistake the two. But you're still not some sort of genius that studied psychology or psychiatry during high school.



It was the 19 fucking 30s. This is like saying Marie Currie was an idiot for not knowing radiation was dangerous.

I believe that it's hard to deny that there's something wrong with you if you're taking medication for it. And it's mostly easier to be in denial then trying to fix something.

This.



Weird comment because; what works for you might not work for others.
I sleep around 4-8 hours every 48 hours that I'm awake.
I've grown used to it, but it has been problematic at times.
It's not such a simple matter for everybody.

Also, on Ritalin;
When someone gets Ritalin for ADHD it doesn't have to be a bad thing.
The thing most people forget that ADHD can be very stressfull, uncomfortable and tiring for the people that have it.
I've seen firsthand how sad it is to see someone shouting and twitching and constantly moving when they themselves are so tired of it they just cry.
And I've also seen how Ritalin can help.

And I'm not talking about kids that just have energy, that get Ritalin for "being a bit hyper". I am talking about ADHD, where all of that comes involuntary, obstructing someone's life in some area's.

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Advanced Placement Psychology is equivalent to psych 101. Yes Psychology is a 4 year course if you plan on majoring in psychology and all of the extra thing you must do. I never said I was a genius. But, saying I know nothing would also be a lie. To prove what I was saying I will provide evidence:



People can feel sick from the drugs that are suppose to be helping them that is why some people refuse.

I agree, i wouldnt like the idea of taking medication like that. The only time i would consider it is if i were getting violent and becoming a potential danger to people around me. Otherwise it isnt necessary.

I am skeptical of nearly all health related drugs. Simply because there are almost as much contradictions in modern health, as there is in religion.

For example: I like to run, and made the terrible mistake of reading up on it. What they said was that one should breath in through the nose, and out through the mouth. Yet I struggled to keep my breath. Then by the SAME website, front page article says "latest research indicates breathing through mouth provides considerably more oxygen and is more effective"... I have found that running according to MY rules, is better than anything any idiot with a PHD says.

Same with drugs. I just ignore headaches and they go away, so why do I need headache tablets? I control my own mind, my own perspective on reality and consciousness... So why must I take depression pills? Why aren't people able to intelligently overcome experiences or concerns?

I don't take any drugs at all, because I just don't need them.

There's a reason I avoid taking any sort of medication unless it's truly necessary. Headache? I'll stop for a bit and take a nap. Can't sleep? I'll get back up and do something useful, then sleep fine the next night. Heartburn? I'll grab a drink and weather it out. Sickness? If possible, I'll try to fight through it without antibiotics (though I admit, I will sometimes use fever reducers). Feeling depressed/fatigued? It's probably because I haven't exercised enough lately.

Drugs are fine when they're needed and are administered properly, but I find that around 85% or more of the time they're not necessary at all and are simply used as a "quick, effortless fix" for the people of this impatient, lazy generation.

i am diagnosed Attention Deficit Disorder, and prescribed adderall. really, the pills are helpful for couple of time until your body develops tolerance. I stopped taking adderall, because it is harsh on your body.

i haven't taken anti-depressive medication, but i have tried anti-anxiety med such as xanax and valium. knocks me out and i sleep like a baby, but i would NOT take any psycho therapeutic medication for a long term.

I have ADD, I took Ritalin at like 14, and it destroyed me. Everything I was as an individual PUFF, gone.

If people can't except you the way you are, even with physical/mental changes, then they are horrible people and aren't worth your time.

You don't seem like the average person. When I have a headache, I can't will it to go away. With a bad headache, it hurts so much that I can't focus on anything and I just lounge around. At those times, I can't even go to sleep without first taking something.

As for antidepressants, they're not meant for people that are simply feeling blue or down in the dumps. They're for people with depression. And real depression is something that doesn't get better just because you want it to. It's not dependent on your mood or attitude towards life. It can just hit you and make you feel like shit, for no external reason. Depression isn't about having a bad day or being stressed out, and people with depression cannot overcome their depressive moods by thinking positively or philosophically.

I think a lot of medication is over prescribed, and a lot of doctors and parents try to use medication as a quick fix, but that doesn't mean that all medication is worthless. If someone is short of breath at the very thought of going to a crowded mall, they could probably use some anti-anxiety medication. If they refuse medication, the only other way to ease their anxiety at being around large groups of people would be to slowly get them used to large crowds, and that would take a long time and a lot of effort, and even then, it might not work. Hell, I'm not sure how you would do that.

Medication shouldn't be a person's go-to response, but sometimes, it can be the best they can do. I'd rather take a pill and be able to go to the mall than refuse medication and feel like I'm going to have a heart attack when in crowded store.

I totally understand where you are coming from here. I too suffer from some absolutely nightmarish migraines at times, not so frequent as to be a concern, but I don't know if I would still be the person I am today without some of the pain medication I took when needed.

My knowledge of addiction, prescriptions and medication is probably not so robust that I can make a worthwhile contribution here, but I know one thing for sure:

PAIN IS BAD

It does not matter if you believe you can just tough it out, the body does not like to be in pain, thats why we try anything to get rid of it. Not only that, but leaving your body in pain is never a good decision, it can shorten your life. Pain can be traumatic on the mind and body, and I have no idea of the level of pain some people have surely gone through, vastly beyond mine.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not pro-substance abuse or using it when it is not necessary, but the outlook some people have that you can just sit there and take it could be doing them irreversible harm. By all means, if you don't think you need it then don't use it, but if you are in a level of pain where you can't go about your day, try to ease that suffering by whatever means you see fit.