What if? (a philosophical question)

I remember coming across a quote that said, 'Out of all the species living on the planet Earth, humans are the only one that has to pay,' and that got me thinking: What if we didn't have to pay for anything? What if people just made things for everyone, and did things that benefited humanity as a whole for the sake of simply doing it? Think about it: we'd never really have to pay for anything. We'd simply make it and give it to someone that asks or needs it. Wealth would be non-existent because everyone gets whatever they want, simply because we're all equal and never have to pay for it. Health would be up since people don't have to pay for prescriptions or hospital visits (seriously, have you seen what they charge you for? $300 just to ride in the ambulance!) I personally belive life would be better if everything was distrubited evenly without a price attached to it.
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What's your opinion? I'd really like to hear what everyone thinks.

I read it on Facebook somewhere too and it also amazes me how Humans are the only species on Earth to pay to live, to pay to eat, to pay to have comfort, yet there are many solutions that could solve this problem if taken action, it would be great to live in a world where nothing costs and everything is filled with the things we need and also the things that helps us advance towards a more proper future, however that is the problem, there are many Humans who don't want to have equality, many wanna label themselves as a higher class, the ones to have rights to gain access to things better than everyone else, it's called greed, something happening in this world right now.

Medicines can be made to fight back diseases and all, however there are also cures to completely heal a person, we don't have access to that, because it is a class higher than us, and it comes with a great price too. There are foods that are extremely healthy and prolongs our lives, but it's really expensive and is very hard to gain access to, since it is a higher class thing. Cars, houses, living, technology, and all of the things are separately categorized for classes, for the poor, middle and rich ... however like I mentioned before, it can be accessed, but for a very, very heavy price tag.

This future that could be held within grasp is reachable and possible, through great effort, and even greater teamwork, to set aside our differences and beliefs and achieve a common goal, which is a bright future filled with comfort and happiness .. but enough of the sweet talk, thing is, many still don't realize we are in a dire situation for a change, however the Media fools them believing everything is still alright, when it really should have been obvious as to the homelessness, the unhappy, and also the lack of understanding between nations. Many are unsatisfied, and are desperately trying to make ends meet, however that is incorrect, since there are also many who don't have access to things that can greatly improve lives.

Take a look at the education system, many college students have to pay a HUGE debt just to finish a degree, and in the end many also don't get the job, despite their qualifications, many also get the jobs, but not with many success, eventually they'll give up and start a normal life, working part time in a store, getting an apartment and not being able to afford a house, a decent vehicle, maybe even not having the means of making a family .. all because of the huge costing in the educational system, and that is why in many schools, educational levels have dropped, teachers are quitting, schools are shutting down, and in the end it is one less potential on Earth to advance the Human civilization.

There are MANY issues to deal with, however one must look at the culprit, who are the culprits? Is it the government, nation leaders, the elites, the rich, businesses? Or could it be us normal humans who just aren't doing enough to change the current situation? What humans need are people willing to work on the things that need to be worked on, which in my personal opinion, is the structure of how things are running.

So if you ask me if that world would look better if everything was free, I would say yes, however with every action comes a price and possibly consequences ... but if Humanity is willing to risk it to change everything for themselves and believe in a future of pure happiness and comfort, then just like the movies, the people have the potential to achieve greatness.

The Venus Project is one of those potential futures, Final Fantasy has also some nice concepts, and also we ourselves, know what exactly makes us happy.

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I also wanted to add a few more things regarding equality and access to things. This system has existed for thousands of years, Kings and Queens find it not suitable that normal citizens have that what they possess, they believe because they know how to rule, know how to guide, know how to perfect things .. they believed they are privileged to have better things, and also in many cases they are disgusted by the low peasants, so a status must me upheld high, including the rare things they possess and have the right to not just let anyone have it.

This idea of different classes have existed very long, there is not one record of History of an existence in time where the whole world shared everything ... history has so much blood that it could fill up a mountain, or possibly even cover a few percentages of the ocean ... however there are countless records where small communities help one another, love one another, and even share their food with others, they lived without king or queens, lived without a system, only a leader who wants nothing more than their "happiness" ... maybe a system similar to small tribes likes these are suitable for the world, it's just to expand it and think the whole world is one big family ... however there are more darkness in the past than light, but it is these small glimmer of kindness that existed in the past that Humanity wants to reach and make it a reality.

Nobody can do the work for you, everybody has to stand up and change, work together, and build a more softer, gentle system for the world.

In that ideal world of yours, why would anyone make anything when they can just ask for it? Then everyone starts doing the same and no one gets anything because no one makes anything. Then someone starts making something and starts demanding his desires be fulfilled for him to fulfill others' desires. Not long before you get back a world where everyone gotta pay.

Comparing with other organisms just isn't gonna work, unless if you accept that it's perfectly fine to kill others to live and be killed for others to live. Humans do that too, but the payment system is so that most of humans don't have to kill.

I find it the other way around, many schools are closing due to the kids not learning or not wanting to learn. My elementary/intermediate school was shut down due to that reason. If everyone was allowed in all the schools at all levels, it would be a disaster. This is why we have standards on admittance when it comes to college. Many go in debt but they never analyze WHY they should get a loan, they just think it's the best possible idea ever. It isn't, know your limits. I know someone who is a student and worker and someone else who is just a worker right now, but they do it for different reasons.





Everyone is selfish, hardly anyone does anything for free. The people should start acting on the important aspects of life, right now the economy around the world is in trouble and instead, a good number of them are just posting crap on facebook and failing their daily duties instead of taking action. Oh but wait, when the time comes for something, they "act" along with it.





No, people always want something in return, even if it's just liking a picture or status on facebook.





The problem is that fictional universes has no history besides what we get told and it's mostly what happens with the game. Our world has thousands of years of history and more complicated than the futuristic fiction setting of good vs evil in FF.





It's been proven time and time again, just look at all the fanatics on each side over anything. From something stupid like a book all the way to politics. You have people insulting one another because they don't share the exact same beliefs to liking something they don't.





Everyone is guilty of wanting their own happiness and it's normal, why should I care for someone around the world? Besides, conflict would happen from any side, there would be alliances, but the tribes from far away made an alliance and would kill anyone for resources or slavery and we start the whole cycle of how the world came to be. Warfare is needed, some wars were actually "good", best example being World War II, how would anyone like to live in a war where Hitler just took over without any struggle or war against him? The 300 Spartans in the Battle of Thermopylae is another example, they stood ground to the Persian empire and for a good reason, not because either wanted bloodshed but they wouldn't let anyone "own them" either.



We live in a world where there isn't just "good and evil" flat out 100% on either side, it's only gray areas.

Sadly, I must agree with everything you posted.

We're also the only species to grow beyond subsistence. However, the statment is false as our cousins the primates also buy things too.



We'd quickly run out of resources as there wouldn't be a throttle on demand. People could waste food and just expect someone to grow more for them. The system would fall apart because it's ripe for abuse. I wouldn't have to turn off any lights in my home or be cautious of how much I drive because, someone else is paying for it (essentially). Which would drive up waste of our fossil fuels. Then you might have to ration things out which would cause squabbles over person x "doing more" then person y and demanding he be compensated because his/her job is harder or more demanding than another.



How are the people who manufacture those goods and the industries supporting the manufacture of said goods going to be compensated for their labor? They are giving up their finite amount of time on this planet to build these items for everyone. Should someone who risks death daily to cut down trees be given an equal amount of stuff as a hair stylist? Should a doctor be compensated the same as a mechanic who is in turn compensated the same way as a fry cook?

*By "compensated" I mean receive an equal amount of material things (food, shelter, etc).

Nobody would want to put forth the effort to do anything if something was simply handed to them. With currency we expect reward for our hard work and efforts. I make a product, people demand it and I get paid to supply it. I use that money to get things that I want. Why would I even bother making a product if I could get what I wanted from the start though?

It's the same as children, spoiled children that have things handed to them typically lack the characteristics of a hard worker later in life. It's also communism because everyone gets equal benefits. Why should I work my ass off if the guy that's doing half the work I am is still getting paid the same?

As Loner and Fiery_Penguin_of_Doom mentioned, resource would deplete at a fast rate and as I mentioned earlier it takes great effort and even greater teamwork, since everyone has to join in on working together and that is what Humanity lacks right now. Also trade has existed over thousands of years, look at the movie Apocalypto, where two tribes traded fish and boar meat when they crossed .....

Humanity could go for this positive future, but then in the end greed takes over and eventually hinders this future which leads back to trade or work that pays for this product of equal value, which hinders greed and forces everybody to work, sure nobody likes to work 8-15 hours a day and in the end not have enough, but it's a current system everybody relies since there is no better system at the moment.

It is human nature to compete for the better status, to survive, to possess things of quality/quantity greater than others, in the end it all comes back to the core of Humanity itself. We humans are really a jealous bunch, a greedy bunch, a bunch that are really special ... egoistic at it's finest, we always do something and want to gain something in return, and with that egoistic mind it evolved into the system we know today ... and humans have to work really hard to put aside that nature to work together, which for me personally is close to impossible.

If you wanna have a safe future, then the best is to kill off almost all the adults in the world and keep some of them to teach children something better, something that benefits everyone, only then will the world have a chance, other than that, the world will stay the same as it is. ( Just my inner darker self writing )

Human nature, has to be seriously adjusted for this bright future to work.

No. Humans should never be forced to do anything, we all have our own free will. Instead one should concentrate to make the world better but not through force or indoctrination.

Just call me FPoD or Super Kami Guru Penguin. Either one is fine.



Most political ideologies tend to fall apart because they expect person X to do something rather than encouraging people working together voluntarily. All these systems use force against people to "encourage" them to work together. The last time people were "encouraged" by threats of force/violence against them it was called slavery.

You think animals don't have to win out their own territory?

Creating rules to ensure your survival requires defending it. In this day and age, it's become a monetary transaction.

We're selfish creatures. The monetary system is a representation of our greed and need for dominance. If everything was free, no one would do the really tough and dirty jobs. Who will fix your toilet when it breaks (Or rather, who would do that for free?)? Money also controls how much resources we use up. Without it, supply and demand would be severely imbalanced.

There are a lot more negatives than positives in this matter .... nobody would wanna work for free nor do they wanna work hard if the person who works less gets the exact same rewards as the the person who works hard. There has to be a system where the more you work the more you get paid/rewarded. Humanity would get caught in an argument about the subject of fairness.

I didn't mention through force or indoctrination .. but something has to be worked on if a future like the OP mentioned should become a reality. Also if this issue gets to continue on without any serious meetings from the leaders with the citizens then later in time the situation will force us to act to adjust to become better.

But you also stated this:



That is forcing only selected ideas to go to kids.

I wasn't really being serious with this statement .. however Bill Gates is serious about depopulation.

So is China and look at how people still have more than one kid.

Did you know that communism has exactly that goal? Perfect and developed communism leads societies to that, everyone will be equal and will work for their needs. The fault is of the capitalism, so thanks to it we have to pay for health, food, home, dignity, and loyalty, being honor a simple memory of a lost society.

Besides that, we already know communism can´t be reached, is so balanced and perfect that only one person wanting a new bed will destroy it, but a socialism will be enough to solve almost all of human problems. That way, you don´t have to pay $300 for an ambulance ride, the government will, because that will be its job.

Thouge this is true your forgetting something very important which is: Time and Energy
lets just say there was no money and everyone got everything for free how would we get these resources, through shops, now who would give out these resources, it would have to be somebody willing in off to give up his Time and Energy, now we would need many of these kinda people all over the world in any case of emergancy and I'm not quite sure if we have inoff of those kinda people, and lets also not forget about hard to reach places were people live like the himalayas or other typs like that, who would risk there life trying to get up there with no reward what so ever so even thouge what your saying would be nice it only end bad for many people.