What is your opinion on plastic surgery?

Even though I would've been against it with all my might, the final choice comes down to the person who wants to do it.

Though I ''hate'' people who even consider doing something like plastic surgery, I hate people who forces others what to do even more...

Edit: I'm not refering to surgery like: Taking away a scar or removing other ''deformed'' (*Birth defects* wtb better english >.< ) parts on your body, like a bulge or crocked noose. But when it comes down to plain breast enlargement or removing fat I have nothing good to say about it.

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as i said in the other thread, it's the persons choice. i don't really have an opinion myself, other than i love huge boobs.

To be fair, Michael Jackson didn't go from black to white because of surgery. It's a disease or condition or whatever called vitiligo. But all the nose jobs? Totally his own fault.



If you had a friend who starved herself because she thought she was fat, you wouldn't just sit back and let her do it, would you?

Plastic surgery won't help a person (that isn't disfigured or anything), because it won't fix the problems that person has. If a person has low self-esteem, an appearance change won't make the person confident. It may for a while, but what happens a year later, when the person looks older? What if the person gets chewed out at work and feels like she can't do anything right? Self-esteem issues usually don't revolve around the person's appearance and nothing else. It'd be better for the person to learn to like him/herself and not waste money on unnecessary surgery.

In regards to the first question, I agree with HentaiElder that if a loved one of mine decided to get plastic surgery, I would respect their decision. If whatever they happened to get changed happened to get worse, or gets worse over time, I would take it upon myself to tell them that it doesn't look good. It might not be good for their self-esteem, but it would be better if they knew what I and possibly others really thought of them.

Like Mr. Bushido, I haven't had someone close to me go through decisions like that. I wouldn't really dissuade them from doing it, but I would tell them up front that if it looked bad, or it went bad over time, that I wouldn't lie, and tell them how it looked. I would also tell them as ShaggyJebus stated, that getting plastic surgery would help very little with their self esteem.

If a loved one was merely pondering having plastic surgery, I would discuss it with them. I would go over alternate methods, and other possibilities. If they were fully committed, I would probably reluctantly support them.

Frist starving your self is very different.

Seconed I gave an example of a person who became betteer off by plastic surgery. He was unhappy being a man and became a women. I even hear hes married now. People made fun of him because he was gay and I even heard someone broke a bat across his head once. Now hes a she and married apparently happy. I dont really know he could be sad by I saw her after and she was glemming with smiles and what not. Now no one knows she used to be a he and so it's o for him to date men now so i figure hes got to be happier.

Also I said you should talk it over with them to see if it's really what they want.

I agree. Ultimately it's their body so they should make the final decision, however, given that they fully understand the consequences.

Also, if it was someone I cared about then I would want them to talk about it with me more. I'd throw a whole bunch of questions at them. I mean, just because they're totally sure of themselves now doesn't mean they're always going to think the same way.

For example, I met this 80-year-old with eyes tattooed on his eyelids. Of course, as a kid he thought they were cool but now that he's a geezer he looks like a jackass (his own words) and unfortunately tattoos cannot be removed from eyelids.

Getting a sex change is different from getting a boob job. There's even a medical diagnosis if someone wants a sex change. I can't remember all the fancy terms, but it's considered a real condition if a person feels like a woman in a man's body or vice versa. But wanting bigger boobs or a nose job or botox shot into your face, that's not because of a condition. That's just wanting to look better because you think you look bad, and it's petty.

I wouldn't mind, so long as it's their own money to waste. :roll:
plus I don't think I have such... friends nor loved ones.

It's all about the MONEY! That's plenty enough reason to persuade anyone NOT to go through any operation at all.

That's why I hate vanity. Yes, each one of us certainly wants to look good... but screw that! I'd rather use my money into something more "necessary."

Plastic surgery is only available to those people who can afford it anyway...

I dont really see the difference he did it cause he was depressed and whated to be happy. Women who are depressed get boob jobs.

Oh it's called Gender identity disorder thats what your thinking but depression is an illness as well.

He still got a boob job and a seconed one. Thats unconfirmed though I heard it from someone else.

The point i'm trying to get across is that plastic surgery dosnt make you a bad person. I will never get it but some people feel they need it. People say it makes them fake and not real but so dose make up and dyed hair are those wrong. Their still the same on the inside and thats what really matters isnt it?

Just to throw a point out. Despite it not being surgical - girls do things to themselves all the time to change their appearance. Whether it's makeup or dying their hair color. Very rarely is a girl completely 100% themselves. Even I have my hair colored, though I have too light of a complexion to wear makeup.

Fake eyelashes, hair extensions, fake fingernails, etc.

If there's any type of 'plastic surgery' that's available now and is most accepted it's probably Botox. My mom always has 1 TV channel on sorta for noise, and at some point this show comes on called.. hell I don't even know what it's called. It's just some TV show about celebrities and what they're doing. I know recently this one older woman who is fond of the needle wrote a book about it. A positive reinforcer about it.

More and more people are getting it done and it's becoming more and more of a norm.
It seems like as society goes on they have to find something 'new'
First it was hair color, makeup. Then extensions, etc.
Now we're sticking needles in our skin to have the nose of some famous celebrity and to keep from getting wrinkles.

You know the number of girls in asian cultures who get it done to make their eyes look more western?

The grass is always greener on the other side. As a western - I envy them for their hair and their skin complexion, not to mention their small bodies.

They envy western girls for their light skin tone, eyes and teeth.

However,
From my standpoint, I don't think I could do it. I think I'd rather live through life as my normal self, and that's fine. This generation it'll be normal to do that. I can't say for any future ones.

I can dye my hair, but I think that's the limit I'll go to. I don't need fake nails because my grow fine on their own. I don't have thin straight hair, so I don't need extensions. Etc.

I have a friend though who I was just talking about who has gone through this.


The one on the left is who I'm talking about. Even though her style was sorta on the different end of the scale (I think we were all sorta like that at that age) She was still cute, and she was still very nice and very innocent. This was when we were almost in 9th grade. (No I'm not in that photo. I took it)

This is the same girl now:



She's very pretty but most of that isn't hers (other then her body .-. god I'm envious) Her hair, her eyelashes, makeup etc. That's all fake - people don't even pay attention to this anymore.

It's just become the norm. Generations now plastic surgery will become the norm. The question is what comes after that? I guess more of genetic manipulation. Get what you want before they're born.

Hmmm... sometimes could be a good decision, sometimes a bad one, cause i think that sometimes depends of how much a person loves himself or herself, how much u like your body... and vanity its a big risk.

Considerations must be taken before a plastic surgery, and do it legally cause we also can risk our lives with bad doctors that only steal your money and leave your body worst after surgery... this happens here in my country one of the defects of Mex.

A lot of people come here cause its cheap but its dangerous sometimes with those "fake doctors".

I personally like my body and i dont have any intention or interest on a plastic surgery.

Even if someone may think they personally look OK, other people around them can make life hellish for having a large-ish nose, or whatever. So, plastic surgery definitely becomes an option in such cases, especially if the person is mature enough to weigh the risks and benefits realistically, and realize that the procedure won't necessarily 100% transform them.

A close friend had a nose-job, and she looks better than ever. However, she was telling me that she no longer knows what to think of boys' attraction towards her-- because it's a matter of "they don't like me for me, they like me for my looks." Sad. :( Any significant alteration will bring on these kinds of thoughts, I suppose. In my case, I never used to wear make-up or care about my clothes (in hs), but then I changed the summer before I started college. My old crush actually had the gall to tell me "man, I wish you had a crush on me NOW, instead of back then." lol ;p

My opinion...hell those who do plastic surgery...its like...giving up who you really are for something else so that people would accept you. To me...personaly...that makes me sad. To change your apperance just because of what other people said or something else.*sigh*

i completely agree ^^

Cosmetic plastic surgery is for those who are too weak to live with themselves. Re-constructive plastic surgery is acceptable for obvious reasons.

I must say shame on alot of you.

Have you never heard of "Beauty is only skin deep". Alot of people undertake surgery whether cosmetic or otherwise not for the benefit of others but rather to feel acceptable to themselves. Michael Jackson might look to you now like a freak and on some levels I must say he did take things too far, however he had a problem- a skin disease, he would not have stayed "black" even if he wanted to but develop blotches and patches of white on himself which would make him look rather freaky to most people. Instead he opted to just fast forward his transition and look white all together.

Then take transexuals, they are not changing their genders or appearance to please you but rather to be able to live with themselves. Many men do not identify themselves as men, and in the same regard many women do not identify themselves as women. Every moment they glimpse or even think of themselves as the gender they are not is a moment of torment. Of course I'm sure there are many here whose only notion of "torment" comes from seeing their favorite anime character in some sort of dire situation. But let me tell you it delves deeper than that.

It is easy to simply judge others and what they do, but one must invoke a level of empathy and try to understand the reason why they do what they have done.


"Beauty is only skin deep"- what matters in the end is the perception one has of herself. Screw the bigots, if it makes you accept yourself more: then do it.

In that same respect- to change yourself to be perceived differently than others. So a new hair style is "in" I decide to change mine to that; an UFC fighter buffs himself up because his critics believe he's too small to be taken as a serious competitor; nail extensions are the new rave of the day, so I decide to get mine done.. the list goes on.. are all of these wrong?

Before the second world war it was uncommon for women to shave their legs but by the end of it hairless, smooth, unclothed legs had become the new rave. All girls began shaving their legs, so much so that 50 years later it is now considered somewhat taboo not to do so. Is your arguement that cosmetic surgery "unnatural" and that god made us with a certain look and that is what we should stick with, because god or whoever made us with leg hair as well and it's now the norm to have it shaven off.

Alot of what we do can on some level be considered a "change of your appearance".

Michael Jackson went too far, no doubt about that. But if you want to bring up pictures let me introduce you to someone called Harisu.. originally a mediocre looking korean boy, however he identified himself as a female not a male. He was born a boy as a mistake as he was essentially a girl trapped in a male body. This is what cosmetic surgery did for him:


Harisu before


Harisu after

He or I should say she is now a very successful korean star and model, able to live with herself and be who she should have been. There are countless other cases such as this.