Why Curing Cancer is Impossible

Ironically, the first post gave me cancer. Shouldn't it be common knowledge that cures exist by now? Read some god damn books instead of trying to play scientist on a hentai forum.

But the question is can Cancer be cured by humans eventually or is it a false reality regulated inside a dream ?

I'll tell you exactly what he means.







The above quote is pretty straight forward, tells you what part of the military it is, how much, and the change from the year before. Total spending in 2010 for the military, 683.7 billion dollars, total spending for cancer research, 5.1 billion. This all being in the same year.



What's really going to boost the point here, is the above numbers in this quote, are in millions. The military one above that, in billions.

Cancer spending is at some points less than 1/1000th of the military spending.

You can check it yourself if you like.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/NCI/research-funding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

I realize that. Not saying it applies only to "cures" but also to medication to ease pain and symptoms in general.

PROTIP: Perfection is a matter of perspective. An imperfect being can be perfect in the eyes of any other who wishes to see them as such. Cancer is rightly as you state, a dysfunction of some cells within the body due to damage while replicating. It is in the genetic code of the cell, but guess what, genetics is not absolute. Genetics is not something that stays the same all the time.

Genetics can vary greatly amoung people from birth to death. Genetics can be modified by living in different location, diets, drugs, etc.

Least to mention that humans have already mapped our own human dna sequences and that of many other animals. We've successfully created hyrbid animals that aren't related in labs and can easily work our magic on ourselfs, infact we already have.

BUT WAIT, there's more...

Gene therapy as it is so called, messing with the genetic code to change the outcome of organic cells already happens in nature. Isn't that incredible, mother nature herself already invented it billions of years ago. We just happen to call them viruses. How does a virus work it's magic in the human body? Well it starts by attaching itself to a single or set of cells. It injects it's genetic makeup into the cell and attaches it to the replication dna of those cells, which allow the virus to spread around the body. It's this groovy thing that we like to call mutation.



I'm assuming you've heard of evolution, cause if you have, then we're already on the same page here. Genetics is not solid, and it can change, and definately can be forced to change.

Perhaps. It seems a tad outlandish to use that method, however.



Listen, ignorant swine. I don't know whether or not you're just a dumb Toif* or you simply didn't read my first post. I've already shown why a cure CANNOT be made for cancer. Unless you would like to COUNTER my point (and countering does not include saying "luk @ buks u id10t." I'm very well read, thanks, and I've come across nothing that is neither able to prove a cure DOES exist, nor able to prove how a cure COULD exist due to the nature of what cancer is.

*toif: (pejorative) Californian



The latter. Hence my ire at us spending money on "researching" it.



Well why didn't you just say so? I wasn't complaining about researching cancer treatment. I was complaining about researching a "cure" for cancer, which doesn't (and won't ever) exist.



That very logic is the same logic I've BEEN using. No matter how many times we create a supplement to get the body to able to recognise a specific mutation in a cell (or, more precisely, one that leads to the development of a malignant tumour), there will be more than a centillion new mutations to do the same for. It's unrealistic and (literally) inhuman to be able to account for every single mutation that could occur in a cell.

edit. Actually I'm wasting my time here, I don't wanna have to respond to another one of those.

Worry not, I don't need your haughtiness stinking up the discussion anyway.

Curing cancer is not impossible. Have you never heard of Gene therapy? I'm not saying we're there yet but one day it may be possible for humans to manipulate DNA to produce correct cells. Has the existence of the past taught you anything? If you lived in the 1800's what would you have said if someone had told you about smartphones? That example may be a little extreme but it's the same principle. You're just being arrogant and short-sighted.

What the heck? You clear did not comprehend my post, because if you did, you wouldn't have made such an idiotic comment. I am awestruck by the stupidity of that statement. First of all, large pharmaceutical companies have incentives to utilize "treatments" that do not actually "cure" cancer but, instead put it into remission. Why? repeat customers. The more a person comes back to treat the same cancer or cancers that means more money for the companies that produce the drugs or machines used in the previously mentioned treatments.

I wasn't even addressing the other aspects of your post but, instead added another reason why the "cure" for cancer will not be found anytime soon, you illiterate ass hat.

ahhhhh good ol' conspiracy and paranoia. Even IF they are making people go into remission, they cant do anything to some cancers, brain cancer any1? There for even IF they decided to cure cancer (which would be the smart thing cause you would destroy all competition and be the ONLY product for that cancer till the Chinese come along and steal it) they couldn't cure all cancer. There's just way to many. Also ever heard of associations that aren't a drug company? the GIANT building that people ride mopeds around inside, like a city, yeah that place? they don't have incentives for repeat patients. However since your into conspiracies with a hint of paranoia, you'll most likely disregard my comment and call me dumb, but hey, people what you gonna do?

Just because cancer is something our own bodies create I don't see why it's impossible to cure. One thing about humanity is our ability to overcome the 'impossible'. It might not happen next year, or even in our lifetime, but it will happen eventually.

I'm not sure why everyone keeps talking about humanity being able to overcome the impossible. There are plenty of things humanity will never be able to do simply because of physics or the ways things work. OP has a point. Most things regarding outer space will never be realized. Humanity won't be able to colonize the sun, Mercury, Pluto, pretty much any planet in our solar system, nor stop the sun from expanding and eventually destroying the Earth. It's not possible, so stop saying that humans can overcome the impossible.

OP does not have a point. Humans can overcome the impossible. As I've clearly stated before, people have said that it would be impossible to fly in the air, it was impossible to go to the moon.

You said it would be impossible to colonize a sun. Have you ever heard of a Dyson sphere. Not to mention, the sun is simply fission which we know how to control. Read more sci-fi.

Oh, you mean science fiction? I'm not gonna keep this going because it's terribly off-topic, but I don't care about Dyson spheres or the fact that the sun is fission. You're ignoring the fact that the sun is ridiculously huge. Also, guess what, can't colonize Jupiter and make it livable or any of the other gas planets because, whoops, they're gas and way far away from the Earth. Impossible.

Curing cancer. Will happen when the concept of money degrades. The reason is that money is the sole reason real cures don't exist. You can't get rich from healing some one. No, you keep him sick and get money. Cancer is nothing more than reproducing cells that have lost their self destruct mechanism and their reproduction inhibitors. Cancer can be caused by a virus or a chemical substance. Cancer can be transmitted if the immune system of the infected creature sucks. The sole reason the Tasmanian devil is going extinct is because they are all genetically the same. So their immune system doesn't know the difference between their own cells and the cells of an other Tasmanian devil. Cancer is a disease for the Tasmanian devils.

No one likes cancer and no one likes cancer that can be transmitted or that is caused by a virus. So if cancer gets transmitted very fast between humans, than a cure will be made for sure. Also our own body creates cancerous cells each day and our own immune system destroys them. The moment they slip between your immune system, you have cancer.
Cancer will be curable in the future but it will only be made by a person or company who doesn't want money but who wishes to help humanity or themselves.

It's possible, but it's unlikely (and much too costly.)



You are correct. I misunderstood your post. However, as I have stated before: I have nothing against continued research into better treatments for cancer.



Yeah... there's a simple problem with that: Human beings are imperfect, therefore they cannot create something that is perfect.




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Oh my god.

ANOTHER PERSON WHO HAS NOT READ (or fully comprehended) THE FIRST POST OF THIS THREAD.

I'm only going to say this once:

Due to the fact that there are an only slightly subinfinite number of mutations that could occur in a cell during duplication, human beings could never create something that would get the body to destroy all of them.

W.E. A.R.E. I.M.P.E.R.F.E.C.T B.E.I.N.G.S.. I.M.P.E.R.F.E.C.T.I.O.N. D.O.E.S. N.O.T. B.E.G.E.T. P.E.R.F.E.C.T.I.O.N..

I never stated that humans are perfect beings. We are not. Nothing in this universe is perfect. Our imperfections are quite bothersome but in some cases they've never stopped us from doing the improbable (or as some put it the 'impossible').

And what does perfection mean? Perfection does not exist so it is meaningless.

Well humans also have a long life span, animals are likely to die long before they get cancer just like humans in the past.




Ofcourse perfection exist, a circle for example is a form of perfection. Humans are well capable of producing perfect ideas and probably mathematics is a perfect model that humans made.