Why would God make such an Atrocious Universe???
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You look into space from Earth and you see the beautiful stars at night (that have probably died), you’re in awe looking at a beautiful blossomed rose and so amazed at how incredibly amazing Humans are and how stupid other animals are..and maybe you think, “wow..this had to be created!“ HOLD ON.
Humans
Lets Examine Human life first (lets not even get into penis like vaginas in hyenas or wings on flightless birds or the femur and pelvis in whales or eyes in subterranean animals that are never exposed to light or why plants are green and not black as they would absorb more light &c.), if we breathe in these tasteless/odorless gases; CO4, CO2, CH4.. WE’RE DEAD. Most of the Oxygen we breathe..we breathe out :blink:? (also the notoriously inefficient enzyme RuBisCO), The pharynx (a passage used for both ingestion and respiration which lead to many of us choking every year), we lack the enzyme L-gulonolactone oxidase (Vitamin C production..which is found in the majority of living organisms). All the Cancers and Unknown Birth Defects (far too long to list), Vision loss (we are also blind to the majority of the Electromagnetic Spectrum..including Ionizing Radiation), We’re comatose for more than 40% of our lives, the orgasm in females is usually stimulated by the clitoris (which is not typically stimulated during direct intercourse) the malformation of the human spine, We have body parts that have no usage (quite a few to name but il just use Appendix and Molars as an example..other primates actually have the jaw structure to use the third row of molars while we do not), we have to eat constantly, we have skin that painfully burns when exposed to the Sun rays (A Sun that also blinds you when you look at it), Knee Joints that bend only one way, barely used muscles like the plantaris muscle of the foot, the temporary presence of a tail in human fetuses, The majority of our brain we can’t use (and forget the majority of what we learn), Laryngeal Nerve (which loops around the aortic arc) and the long neural pathway that takes photic information from the eyes to the pineal gland (but goes to the Thoracic Spinal Cord instead of just connecting the Paraventricular Nucleus to the Pineal Gland &c.);
Earth
It took more than 3.5billion years to create multicellular life, 99.999% of life that ever lived is Extinct, Tsunami’s, Volcanoes & Earthquakes that kill thousands upon thousands a year (recently the Tsunami in Japan that killed 20,000), we can’t live on 3/4 of the Earth, Uhmm..Tornadoes/Hurricanes/Lightning, Asteroids, Climate Shift, Pole shift hypothesis, Inner solar systems a shooting galaxy, sink holes.. we can starve or freeze on the majority of Earth &c.
Universe
Heat/ Cosmic Radiation/Cold (A giant Microwave Oven..so to speak) in the majority of the Universe (we cannot survive), Galaxy Orbits bring you near a Supernova (That will wipe out our Ozone layers and kill all), Star Formation is completely inefficient, Gamma Ray Bursts, that “beautiful shooting star” is really just a Meteoroid burning the Earths Atmosphere, Black Holes, Galactic Cannibalism (when a Galaxy Eats another Galaxy), A Vacuum Meta stability Event (From my Junior Understanding of Quantum Physics; We may Exist in a false vacuum state that in which has a an energy level too low for more than temporary maintenance. Any given moment it could call it quits and succumb to the added pressures and be replaced by energy levels much higher), One-way Universe will wind down to Oblivion & that the majority of orbits are unstable &c..
Note this will be my last thread on this site until the start of September.
Humans
Lets Examine Human life first (lets not even get into penis like vaginas in hyenas or wings on flightless birds or the femur and pelvis in whales or eyes in subterranean animals that are never exposed to light or why plants are green and not black as they would absorb more light &c.), if we breathe in these tasteless/odorless gases; CO4, CO2, CH4.. WE’RE DEAD. Most of the Oxygen we breathe..we breathe out :blink:? (also the notoriously inefficient enzyme RuBisCO), The pharynx (a passage used for both ingestion and respiration which lead to many of us choking every year), we lack the enzyme L-gulonolactone oxidase (Vitamin C production..which is found in the majority of living organisms). All the Cancers and Unknown Birth Defects (far too long to list), Vision loss (we are also blind to the majority of the Electromagnetic Spectrum..including Ionizing Radiation), We’re comatose for more than 40% of our lives, the orgasm in females is usually stimulated by the clitoris (which is not typically stimulated during direct intercourse) the malformation of the human spine, We have body parts that have no usage (quite a few to name but il just use Appendix and Molars as an example..other primates actually have the jaw structure to use the third row of molars while we do not), we have to eat constantly, we have skin that painfully burns when exposed to the Sun rays (A Sun that also blinds you when you look at it), Knee Joints that bend only one way, barely used muscles like the plantaris muscle of the foot, the temporary presence of a tail in human fetuses, The majority of our brain we can’t use (and forget the majority of what we learn), Laryngeal Nerve (which loops around the aortic arc) and the long neural pathway that takes photic information from the eyes to the pineal gland (but goes to the Thoracic Spinal Cord instead of just connecting the Paraventricular Nucleus to the Pineal Gland &c.);
Earth
It took more than 3.5billion years to create multicellular life, 99.999% of life that ever lived is Extinct, Tsunami’s, Volcanoes & Earthquakes that kill thousands upon thousands a year (recently the Tsunami in Japan that killed 20,000), we can’t live on 3/4 of the Earth, Uhmm..Tornadoes/Hurricanes/Lightning, Asteroids, Climate Shift, Pole shift hypothesis, Inner solar systems a shooting galaxy, sink holes.. we can starve or freeze on the majority of Earth &c.
Universe
Heat/ Cosmic Radiation/Cold (A giant Microwave Oven..so to speak) in the majority of the Universe (we cannot survive), Galaxy Orbits bring you near a Supernova (That will wipe out our Ozone layers and kill all), Star Formation is completely inefficient, Gamma Ray Bursts, that “beautiful shooting star” is really just a Meteoroid burning the Earths Atmosphere, Black Holes, Galactic Cannibalism (when a Galaxy Eats another Galaxy), A Vacuum Meta stability Event (From my Junior Understanding of Quantum Physics; We may Exist in a false vacuum state that in which has a an energy level too low for more than temporary maintenance. Any given moment it could call it quits and succumb to the added pressures and be replaced by energy levels much higher), One-way Universe will wind down to Oblivion & that the majority of orbits are unstable &c..
Note this will be my last thread on this site until the start of September.
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I expect you to get at least -3 rep for this. Just a prediction, seeing how controversial religion is.
Anyway, assuming that God exists, there's a very simple explanation for this: He's a sadistic bastard. Alternatively, He doesn't care and just leaves the world to do whatever while the devil causes mayhem. While there are plenty of scientific reasons for everything listed in this thread, those are my two religious answers.
Anyway, assuming that God exists, there's a very simple explanation for this: He's a sadistic bastard. Alternatively, He doesn't care and just leaves the world to do whatever while the devil causes mayhem. While there are plenty of scientific reasons for everything listed in this thread, those are my two religious answers.
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Well, God may or may not be the entity every human expects. After all, who has seen and known God's personally? For all we know, this whole universe thing may be an 'accident' and God couldn't care less. That or God probably just created this universe of the hell of it because God just wanted to. It is perhaps one of the mysteries that can only be revealed by whatever is responsible for this.
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HouraiTeahouse wrote...
I expect you to get at least -3 rep for this.Anyway, assuming that God exists, there's a very simple explanation for this: He's a sadistic bastard. Alternatively, He doesn't care and just leaves the world to do whatever while the devil causes mayhem. While there are plenty of scientific reasons for everything listed in this thread, those are my two religious answers.
Why would I get negative reps for this thread ? Is it not serious ?
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
Let's ignore the stupidity in this. Anyway I'm curious.
Mind explaining why the star formation is inefficient? It would be especially helpful if you can suggest ways that are more efficient, or even better, a formation that is the most ideally efficient.
Mind explaining why the star formation is inefficient? It would be especially helpful if you can suggest ways that are more efficient, or even better, a formation that is the most ideally efficient.
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It can be summed up with three conclusions:
A.) God Doesn't exist.
B.) God is sadistic.
C.) God does love us but doesn't help his creations for reasons i don't understand.
A.) God Doesn't exist.
B.) God is sadistic.
C.) God does love us but doesn't help his creations for reasons i don't understand.
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If you start talking about religion, politics, or philosophy then you're just asking for a shit storm of assholes to talk shit. Yes I could have said that more intelligently but what's the point when your already viewed as a fool? If someone has an unbreakable determination to believe in something than you CANNOT waver their view point. No matter which angle you view people's mind at, it is all subjective. I'm not being disrespectful but what is the point of this post? Depending on your perspective this can either be a grand or a disgusting world but dubbing it as either or is nothing more than ignorance because such views as "right" and "wrong" or "good" and "bad" are subjective and have little meaning in a world that has no emotions. If you truly believe that the world is atrocious then why believe in a god that created such a hostile place?
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Science explains how. Philosophy explains why. Rather than focusing on the facts, it is our mission to find why God, if he exists, created an imperfect universe. If god doesn't exist, then how did the universe come to exist in the first place? And if we figure out how, then we figure out why it occured, always leading to the same answer: God.
Remember, there always comes down to the point of why, and through there, comes out the question: what is the meaning of life? So? What would you say the meaning of life is? If you answer that, then you might just discover whether god truly exists or not.
Remember, there always comes down to the point of why, and through there, comes out the question: what is the meaning of life? So? What would you say the meaning of life is? If you answer that, then you might just discover whether god truly exists or not.
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FinalBoss
#levelupyourgrind
I can't believe I read all that...
If you take into consideration that God didn't create the universe for us, then you can probably understand why the universe functions the way that it does. However, that is assuming God even exists. I believe God is the universe itself. Not the traditional type of God, I just acknowledge it as an absolute force of existence.
If you take into consideration that God didn't create the universe for us, then you can probably understand why the universe functions the way that it does. However, that is assuming God even exists. I believe God is the universe itself. Not the traditional type of God, I just acknowledge it as an absolute force of existence.
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Lughost
the Lugoat
Your threads are still just as bad as they were. It shall be a nice five months.
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If God exists then religion tells us that this is all some sort of grand scheme.
You can also look at this as God created the universe and its processes and let it run its course. Remember the part where God supposedly works in mysterious ways? Totally applies here.
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If God exists then religion tells us that this is all some sort of grand scheme.
You can also look at this as God created the universe and its processes and let it run its course. Remember the part where God supposedly works in mysterious ways? Totally applies here.
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There is nothing good or bad in our universe as those are opinions of the beholder. What you may think of as atrocious others may find glorious and fascinating, and as for religion, most religions were created in a time with little logical explanations for most of nature, and as humans are curious we try to find explanations for everything, so they will use what they know to come up with the best solution.
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nobody13 wrote...
There is nothing good or bad in our universe as those are opinions of the beholder. What you may think of as atrocious others may find glorious and fascinating, and as for religion, most religions were created in a time with little logical explanations for most of nature, and as humans are curious we try to find explanations for everything, so they will use what they know to come up with the best solution.Wouldn't you agree that suffering, starvation and death are bad things, especially when it happens to so many people? Regardless of what you think, I highly doubt these vulnerable children and adults feel that what has befallen them can be considered "good".
Indeed, most religions were created back when there weren't enough knowledge to explain even the most basic of natural phenomenon, but that doesn't mean curiosity has anything to do with it. Even if it did, which isn't the case with the Abrahamic religions, then it's highly irrelevant right now seeing as we've disproven many assertions that the Bible and the Qu'ran has made.
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godsend
The Pun Master
Instead of answering your wall of text with another wall of text, I shall respond with another set of questions.
If God exists, why would we even register on its level of consciousness? Something which supposedly created the universe would have a state of being so immense that we'd seem like a single gluon in comparison to its galaxy.
If it doesn't exist, why should we even care?
If God exists, why would we even register on its level of consciousness? Something which supposedly created the universe would have a state of being so immense that we'd seem like a single gluon in comparison to its galaxy.
If it doesn't exist, why should we even care?
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Humans made it bad.
Religion was an outlet used by by people.
The world is bad don't sit around and blame a deity you don't even believe in. That's contradictory.
You don't sound too smart
Religion was an outlet used by by people.
The world is bad don't sit around and blame a deity you don't even believe in. That's contradictory.
You don't sound too smart
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623
FAKKU QA
Androgeny wrote...
Humans made it bad. Religion was an outlet used by by people.
The world is bad don't sit around and blame a deity you don't even believe in. That's contradictory.
You don't sound too smart
No you don't sound too smart. Did you even read the OP? How could humans possibly influence anything before they existed? And how could they influence anything outside of the Earth let alone the universe?
OT: Science and technically everything works. Don't fix what ain't broken I guess. And I hate to make this comparison because I will feel so nerdy but. In the game League of Legends, the dev team releases new characters to play relatively often. However, the gameplay (or "meta") has evolved since its release, making some of the older characters not as good as newer ones because the new ones are made with hindsight. So the dev team has actually started doing "visual updates" and reworks to make older characters more relevant.
Anyway the point is maybe everything was "made" without full understanding and without hindsight so, some things might turn out shitty, but can still function fine.
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godsend wrote...
Instead of answering your wall of text with another wall of text, I shall respond with another set of questions.If God exists, why would we even register on its level of consciousness? Something which supposedly created the universe would have a state of being so immense that we'd seem like a single gluon in comparison to its galaxy.
If it doesn't exist, why should we even care?
I second this.
Assuming there is being that can create universe our existence to it would be similar of bacteria on our bodies, not only that but such being would need to exist prior of start of time / space.
Now assuming God did create everything, there is plenty of stuff out there outside our planet, alot more than on our planet, so why assume that everything that was created was created for us. Maby on some far away planet there is some form of exotic fly thats main part of Grand Plan.
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There is no god, the end, no but really, we are simply an atrocious mistake that shouldn't have seen the light of day. And I think the universe is great, weather its planets, animals, nature, stars wtv all of it is amazing and wonderful, other then the bad stain the humans are. So, no god didn't make an atrocious universe because there is no god and no, the universe isn't atrocious, its just us humans really.