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First im... nah, too early to say anything yet. I'm just going to ask a question that's been bugging me a little twenty minutes into Root Double.
Is this world related to 999? There are certain keywords such as, wait for it, '9'! and telepathy talks that made me think that...
Also, I suddenly recall another Visual Novel that's also written (I guess? I just know it's definitely related to the creators of Ever 17) by the same author, but it's on PSP. Synopsis is about a group of people working together and trying to escape their imprisonment, but little did they know that they DID manage to escape before, they just don't remember it. Some sort of twisted experiment or something.
And I wanna read it. =3 Is there anyway to keep track of all the VNs that's er, made? written? by dem creators?
Is this world related to 999? There are certain keywords such as, wait for it, '9'! and telepathy talks that made me think that...
Also, I suddenly recall another Visual Novel that's also written (I guess? I just know it's definitely related to the creators of Ever 17) by the same author, but it's on PSP. Synopsis is about a group of people working together and trying to escape their imprisonment, but little did they know that they DID manage to escape before, they just don't remember it. Some sort of twisted experiment or something.
And I wanna read it. =3 Is there anyway to keep track of all the VNs that's er, made? written? by dem creators?
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Zolnir wrote...
First im... nah, too early to say anything yet. I'm just going to ask a question that's been bugging me a little twenty minutes into Root Double.Is this world related to 999? There are certain keywords such as, wait for it, '9'! and telepathy talks that made me think that...
Also, I suddenly recall another Visual Novel that's also written (I guess? I just know it's definitely related to the creators of Ever 17) by the same author, but it's on PSP. Synopsis is about a group of people working together and trying to escape their imprisonment, but little did they know that they DID manage to escape before, they just don't remember it. Some sort of twisted experiment or something.
And I wanna read it. =3 Is there anyway to keep track of all the VNs that's er, made? written? by dem creators?
[size=14]Well KID are the guys that made Ever 17. It should have a list of all the VNs made by them if that's what you are looking for.[/h]
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Zolnir wrote...
First im... nah, too early to say anything yet. I'm just going to ask a question that's been bugging me a little twenty minutes into Root Double.Is this world related to 999? There are certain keywords such as, wait for it, '9'! and telepathy talks that made me think that...
Also, I suddenly recall another Visual Novel that's also written (I guess? I just know it's definitely related to the creators of Ever 17) by the same author, but it's on PSP. Synopsis is about a group of people working together and trying to escape their imprisonment, but little did they know that they DID manage to escape before, they just don't remember it. Some sort of twisted experiment or something.
And I wanna read it. =3 Is there anyway to keep track of all the VNs that's er, made? written? by dem creators?
Nakazawa Takumi (the director of the Infinity series and one of its main writers) was involved in Root Double (and also I/O for example) so it's not surprising to find some elements that may somehow resemble other VNs.
I think there is a site where you can confirm who worked on a determined VN and the same thing inversely. Try ErogameScape. This is one thing I'm not too sure.
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I finished the harem route for Boob Wars: Big Breasts vs Flat Chests last night (or this morning technically). I'm about to start playing Saya no Uta. I also had sex with Lily last night in Katawa Shoujo.
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Yosh, just finished Root Double. They really aren't lying when they say it's freaking 50+ hours long; this took me 3 days+ of 16 hours play even with a walkthrough and various skipping of bad ends (most of them are kind of stupid >_>).
As usual, let's go with the plot first. Basically you'll play through 4 routes titled After, Before, Current and Double in that order to learn the entire story. There are two protagonists - the Rescue Team Leader, Watase and the Communicator high school student Natsuhiko whose point of view would tell the story and eventually the truth as everything is slowly pieced together, one by one like a puzzle.
I'm not going to spoiler anything, but let it be known (... wait a second did I just use an Umineko reference?) that this is a more emotional-fueled story as compared to the Infinity series (as in the logic build up and scientific theories are much more persuasive). I shed tears at the ending of Before; it was really touching (though of course... ~_~). One of the unique traits of this game - or should I say an accumulated fault actually - is that you would spend 70% of the read time reading into every characters' pasts and memories. After and Double are practically the only routes that talk about the 'present' (and in Double you still spend more time in the past than present - play it and you'd get what I mean), whereas Before is the story, from Natsuhiko's point of view, of the 6 days before the Incident, and Current is simply a retelling of After also from Natsuhiko's POV.
In a sense, I've never read a more emotionally complete Visual Novel in my life - there's always some regrets here, a little dissatisfaction there that a certain character did not get enough attention etc - but Root Double covers all 9 people's pasts, stories, motives and feelings in a most masterful manner. Unfortunately readers may sometimes be plagued by the fact that they're spending way too much time looking backwards when all they want is to know what happens next, but this is ultimately a subjective matter.
While the plot is certainly not all that unfamiliar, I'm surprised at how accurate the writer manage to pinpoint an emotion (though in retrospect I can't imagine anyone who wrote this to be any less sensitive). The crisis, climax and aftermath was exactly as the writer said in one of the character's lines, "It's as if I woke up from a very long nightmare". I'll leave everything else to imagination; I really can't imagine spoiling anything about this awesome story.
Characters. I don't really need to say anything, but heck, I read so many things about all 9 characters that I feel sick from overload. Rest assured that no one gets left behind, and you'll be smashed in the face with everything you ever want to know about your most hated guy/girl until you want to knock yourself silly. :P
Art wise it's not special but definitely well made. Honestly I don't have much to say about this except that it's a fucking pain in the arse trying to collect all of dem CGs even with a walkthrough to follow. Gawd. >_<
Music, same impression. The final song at the end is certainly beautiful, but I find the OP Song Terminus from Dsyfunctional Systems to be far more effective and touching. Then again, Dischan is made up by a bunch of geniuses. Still, they are definitely not bad at all.
Systems. First, the Sense Sympathy System is kind of troublesome to use but ties in very well with the plot, so no problemo. Second, I kind of like how they hint that: Finally, the Save System can be a little tricky to use since you have to save a lot of times, so be careful is all that I can say.
In short, Root Double scores 8.7 out of 10 from me. Most of the time the story didn't really surprise me - not even close when you compare it with the shock I experienced reading through epics like Ever 17 or Remember 11, especially Remember fucking 11 >_> - and if you pay attention it's easy to realize what the many hidden truths. Or if I put it bluntly, IT'S NOT EVEN A CHALLENGE; TRY ME HARDER! :D One hint - though it may come of as spoiler-ish, so I'll spoiler it accordingly:
And that's it for today.
EDIT: Dysfunctional Systems Complete Review. I just couldn't resist. T_T
Originally I didn't mean to write this since I already had one (first impressions) completed at another forum, but after having the game literally haunting the corners of my mind for days even when I'm playing Root Double, I decided to get this out.
Before I start, note that if you are a fan of Katawa Shoujo or one of its artist Doomfest, then you really shouldn't miss out on this game. The game was declared to have 5 Episodes in total, and Episode 1 takes about two hours to complete - though it could be shorter depending on your reading speed. You can buy it for $5, and its definitely worth in my opinion every penny you spent.
Now then. Dysfunctional Systems Episode 1 - Learning to Manage Chaos describes the journey of the newbie mediator Winter as she travels to many different worlds trying to resolve their plaguing issues, and ultimately saving them from chaos. In this Episode 1, Winter and her mentor Cyrus lands on the system Sule (more specifically, the Brighton colony) in attempt to figure out and avert the increasingly dangerous tension between the 3 major colonies of the Sule. Currently there are only 2 Endings in Episode 1, though there would be, I guess, more different outcomes in future Episodes.
Unfortunately this review would seemed incomplete if I do not at least include my heartfelt impressions, but I'm spoilering them all because they contain massive spoilers. I repeat, if you had not played the game, please do NOT read the below spoilered texts.
From here on the review would be spoiler-less, so feel free to read them:
Story - Really, if you've read above then there is nothing else that I could say. Otherwise, good GOD I need far more than just two hours of gameplay dammit! WHEN IS THE NEXT EPISODE!?
Art - Holy shit. No Doomfest, no Dysfunctional Systems, no success. I have said it before, but the art is so hauntingly beautiful that I could not imagine this game in any other light but his. There're also various guest arts (actually there's more of these than actual CGs, so grumble grumble) included and needless to say they are a wonderful treat.
Music - Salute to CombatPlayer, and sheeeet I can't believe I actually bought music for the second time in my entire life (Note: Not the one that comes with the game). Maintenance, Terminus and Cado Astrum are absolutely golden, and none of the other soundtracks sound like your generic bullshit. Sure, Analysis sounds kind of weird at the beginning, but like, you know, PEOPLE I JUST BOUGHT MUSIC! ME! LIKE WTF!?
Presentation - Almost perfect. I mean, I seriously could not say anything but this if I want to keep this section spoiler-less; just go play the goddamn game already lol.
System - This I have some complains. First, the general outlook of the game can look rather blurry due to its kinda-abstract art, which is fine, but not when all the text looks blurry as well. Next, when viewing CGs in the Extras section, the hotkeys slightly differs from that of a common Japanese PC Visual Novel so it could be confusing. The Codex section text can be too small for some people to read. Lastly, the Jukebox could've offered more play options such as Loop all songs or something.
All in all a 9.2 out of 10, and once again kudos to Dischan; they are certainly the best Western Visual Novel creators out there right now. If you're seeing this guys, can't wait for Cradle Song to come out - hopefully :P - this year. Good job, good luck, and good night everyone~
As usual, let's go with the plot first. Basically you'll play through 4 routes titled After, Before, Current and Double in that order to learn the entire story. There are two protagonists - the Rescue Team Leader, Watase and the Communicator high school student Natsuhiko whose point of view would tell the story and eventually the truth as everything is slowly pieced together, one by one like a puzzle.
I'm not going to spoiler anything, but let it be known (... wait a second did I just use an Umineko reference?) that this is a more emotional-fueled story as compared to the Infinity series (as in the logic build up and scientific theories are much more persuasive). I shed tears at the ending of Before; it was really touching (though of course... ~_~). One of the unique traits of this game - or should I say an accumulated fault actually - is that you would spend 70% of the read time reading into every characters' pasts and memories. After and Double are practically the only routes that talk about the 'present' (and in Double you still spend more time in the past than present - play it and you'd get what I mean), whereas Before is the story, from Natsuhiko's point of view, of the 6 days before the Incident, and Current is simply a retelling of After also from Natsuhiko's POV.
In a sense, I've never read a more emotionally complete Visual Novel in my life - there's always some regrets here, a little dissatisfaction there that a certain character did not get enough attention etc - but Root Double covers all 9 people's pasts, stories, motives and feelings in a most masterful manner. Unfortunately readers may sometimes be plagued by the fact that they're spending way too much time looking backwards when all they want is to know what happens next, but this is ultimately a subjective matter.
While the plot is certainly not all that unfamiliar, I'm surprised at how accurate the writer manage to pinpoint an emotion (though in retrospect I can't imagine anyone who wrote this to be any less sensitive). The crisis, climax and aftermath was exactly as the writer said in one of the character's lines, "It's as if I woke up from a very long nightmare". I'll leave everything else to imagination; I really can't imagine spoiling anything about this awesome story.
Characters. I don't really need to say anything, but heck, I read so many things about all 9 characters that I feel sick from overload. Rest assured that no one gets left behind, and you'll be smashed in the face with everything you ever want to know about your most hated guy/girl until you want to knock yourself silly. :P
Art wise it's not special but definitely well made. Honestly I don't have much to say about this except that it's a fucking pain in the arse trying to collect all of dem CGs even with a walkthrough to follow. Gawd. >_<
Music, same impression. The final song at the end is certainly beautiful, but I find the OP Song Terminus from Dsyfunctional Systems to be far more effective and touching. Then again, Dischan is made up by a bunch of geniuses. Still, they are definitely not bad at all.
Systems. First, the Sense Sympathy System is kind of troublesome to use but ties in very well with the plot, so no problemo. Second, I kind of like how they hint that:
Spoiler:
In short, Root Double scores 8.7 out of 10 from me. Most of the time the story didn't really surprise me - not even close when you compare it with the shock I experienced reading through epics like Ever 17 or Remember 11, especially Remember fucking 11 >_> - and if you pay attention it's easy to realize what the many hidden truths. Or if I put it bluntly, IT'S NOT EVEN A CHALLENGE; TRY ME HARDER! :D One hint - though it may come of as spoiler-ish, so I'll spoiler it accordingly:
Spoiler:
And that's it for today.
EDIT: Dysfunctional Systems Complete Review. I just couldn't resist. T_T
Originally I didn't mean to write this since I already had one (first impressions) completed at another forum, but after having the game literally haunting the corners of my mind for days even when I'm playing Root Double, I decided to get this out.
Before I start, note that if you are a fan of Katawa Shoujo or one of its artist Doomfest, then you really shouldn't miss out on this game. The game was declared to have 5 Episodes in total, and Episode 1 takes about two hours to complete - though it could be shorter depending on your reading speed. You can buy it for $5, and its definitely worth in my opinion every penny you spent.
Now then. Dysfunctional Systems Episode 1 - Learning to Manage Chaos describes the journey of the newbie mediator Winter as she travels to many different worlds trying to resolve their plaguing issues, and ultimately saving them from chaos. In this Episode 1, Winter and her mentor Cyrus lands on the system Sule (more specifically, the Brighton colony) in attempt to figure out and avert the increasingly dangerous tension between the 3 major colonies of the Sule. Currently there are only 2 Endings in Episode 1, though there would be, I guess, more different outcomes in future Episodes.
Unfortunately this review would seemed incomplete if I do not at least include my heartfelt impressions, but I'm spoilering them all because they contain massive spoilers. I repeat, if you had not played the game, please do NOT read the below spoilered texts.
Spoiler:
From here on the review would be spoiler-less, so feel free to read them:
Story - Really, if you've read above then there is nothing else that I could say. Otherwise, good GOD I need far more than just two hours of gameplay dammit! WHEN IS THE NEXT EPISODE!?
Art - Holy shit. No Doomfest, no Dysfunctional Systems, no success. I have said it before, but the art is so hauntingly beautiful that I could not imagine this game in any other light but his. There're also various guest arts (actually there's more of these than actual CGs, so grumble grumble) included and needless to say they are a wonderful treat.
Music - Salute to CombatPlayer, and sheeeet I can't believe I actually bought music for the second time in my entire life (Note: Not the one that comes with the game). Maintenance, Terminus and Cado Astrum are absolutely golden, and none of the other soundtracks sound like your generic bullshit. Sure, Analysis sounds kind of weird at the beginning, but like, you know, PEOPLE I JUST BOUGHT MUSIC! ME! LIKE WTF!?
Presentation - Almost perfect. I mean, I seriously could not say anything but this if I want to keep this section spoiler-less; just go play the goddamn game already lol.
System - This I have some complains. First, the general outlook of the game can look rather blurry due to its kinda-abstract art, which is fine, but not when all the text looks blurry as well. Next, when viewing CGs in the Extras section, the hotkeys slightly differs from that of a common Japanese PC Visual Novel so it could be confusing. The Codex section text can be too small for some people to read. Lastly, the Jukebox could've offered more play options such as Loop all songs or something.
All in all a 9.2 out of 10, and once again kudos to Dischan; they are certainly the best Western Visual Novel creators out there right now. If you're seeing this guys, can't wait for Cradle Song to come out - hopefully :P - this year. Good job, good luck, and good night everyone~
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To Zolnir - Not going to quote the wall of text lol Liked the review and it seems that I'll totally love Root Double if I ever get to read it. Also, best to also fix Never 11 to Never 7 like you did on VNDB to not create confusions =P
Wait, is Never 7 twist bigger than Ever 17?! I saw some comments mentioning that Never 7 is not as good as Ever 17 so I was saving it for later but if it's that surprising I'll make a change on the next VNs I'll read.
Dysfunctional Systems seems pretty interesting but I don't like to read unfinished works so for now I'll refrain from reading it. Btw, better edit your post and bold the part where you start Dysfunctional Systems final review so that no one misses it lol
I finished Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice for All and like it happened on the first game of Phoenix Wright there's not much to add to my thoughts posted here previously.
The team that worked on Phoenix Wright obviously liked to save some serious development to the final cases. So, like the first game, I'll also give this one a 7.5/10.
Wait, is Never 7 twist bigger than Ever 17?! I saw some comments mentioning that Never 7 is not as good as Ever 17 so I was saving it for later but if it's that surprising I'll make a change on the next VNs I'll read.
Dysfunctional Systems seems pretty interesting but I don't like to read unfinished works so for now I'll refrain from reading it. Btw, better edit your post and bold the part where you start Dysfunctional Systems final review so that no one misses it lol
I finished Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice for All and like it happened on the first game of Phoenix Wright there's not much to add to my thoughts posted here previously.
The team that worked on Phoenix Wright obviously liked to save some serious development to the final cases. So, like the first game, I'll also give this one a 7.5/10.
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I'm playing Saya no Uta. I got the first ending last night where in my first choice I chose . I really love the ending theme that runs during the credits, Shoes of Glass. I actually downloaded it earlier today and put it on my iPod. Even though I knew that picking that choice would end the game, I picked it to 1) see what would happen and 2) it was 3am in the morning. I had to end it and force myself to go to sleep.
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Yu-No gave me the greatest headache so far. Looks like serious / full of twist VN is not for me lol.
Want to try Lovesick Puppies but 5 GB size.
*still figuring out how the fuck I beat that Stonehead at Africa. How I dispel the -5 all stats tech effect. Fuuuuu
Want to try Lovesick Puppies but 5 GB size.
*still figuring out how the fuck I beat that Stonehead at Africa. How I dispel the -5 all stats tech effect. Fuuuuu
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[size=14]Currently playing Hoshizora no Memoria but I still haven't gotten anywhere yet (only one decision after 4 hours+ gameplay) It's looking interesting even if it uses some of the most cliche VN themes ever particularly
[size=14]which gets on my nerves a little bit. There are a lot of comparisons I could make with Yosuga no Sora (I'm not joking... a lot) but it's selling point was never story for me, simply because in my opinion the art is amazing (especially the colouring), as soon as I saw it I had to download. It's one of those niggling mystery type VNs. The mystery isn't huge but it sure annoys the hell out of you until you eventually find out what the hell is going on. So yeah I'm going to be sticking with this one and hope that it takes me somewhere fun.[/h] [/h]
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[size=14]which gets on my nerves a little bit. There are a lot of comparisons I could make with Yosuga no Sora (I'm not joking... a lot) but it's selling point was never story for me, simply because in my opinion the art is amazing (especially the colouring), as soon as I saw it I had to download. It's one of those niggling mystery type VNs. The mystery isn't huge but it sure annoys the hell out of you until you eventually find out what the hell is going on. So yeah I'm going to be sticking with this one and hope that it takes me somewhere fun.[/h] [/h]
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I tried out Cat Girl Alliance and found it to be awful. Two of the three girls weren't interesting to me, and the third one had awful h-scenes. The most interesting character was the pretty bromantic foil, but there wasn't any strictly gay option to enjoy him with. Which is honestly very sad, since he has plenty of character that could be developed (more than the females, strangely enough) if he simply had his own route. Instead, if you want him then you need to have one of the routes where he's tacked on to another girl. Basically, this game is a disappointment and should be ashamed of taking spot number 153 in the database.
Issue solved. Thanks again, amorim.
Issue solved. Thanks again, amorim.
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HouraiTeahouse wrote...
Where did you get Root Double, Zolnir? I've been wanting to go through it for a while, but I'm too lazy to hunt it down. And does it come in English, or do I need to use a translation program?I sent you a PM with a link to torrent.
Root Double is not translated.
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Dysfunctional System.
Better than most VN I've come across lately. A bit surprised with the resolution, 1280x720, kinda giving it a professional sense. That and I sure love dem core concept. Those artwork, CG and Background looks really professionally done. I kinda recognize the artwork.
And let's not forget here, my heart went 'kyuuu' when I see her.
Music too, aint bad. Not stand out too much, it blends quite well with the story and atmosphere. Sure love them BGMs.
Overall it feels like those budget-ed VNs. A very good job, kudos to Dischan. I sure as hell want episode 2.
Oh yeah, the artwork remiinded me of some from Katawa Shoujo. Anticipating Cradle Song much.
Btw Zolnir, do you know other eng VN producer with up quality other than dischan?
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Better than most VN I've come across lately. A bit surprised with the resolution, 1280x720, kinda giving it a professional sense. That and I sure love dem core concept. Those artwork, CG and Background looks really professionally done. I kinda recognize the artwork.
And let's not forget here, my heart went 'kyuuu' when I see her.
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Music too, aint bad. Not stand out too much, it blends quite well with the story and atmosphere. Sure love them BGMs.
Overall it feels like those budget-ed VNs. A very good job, kudos to Dischan. I sure as hell want episode 2.
Zolnir wrote...
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Oh yeah, the artwork remiinded me of some from Katawa Shoujo. Anticipating Cradle Song much.
Btw Zolnir, do you know other eng VN producer with up quality other than dischan?
Also:
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As far as I know Dischan is the absolute top of Western Visual Novels. They had the luck to recruit both Doomfest and CombatPlayer, which are both excellent makers and looked to have great potential for growth in the future. The only problem they have - like they always did - was that the Visual Novels take one helluva time to make. >_>
Can't say for the text. Interesting sure, but not necessarily stuff that I can't find elsewhere. I believe - beat me into a pulp if the author IS Aura - that Aura, the writer of Rin's route in KS is better than the Dysfunctional Systems author.
As for the profiles, you may make an extra one if you like. I anticipate that the DS would ultimately end with at least 4 to 5 different endings, but for Episode 1 only 2 profiles are needed (since there's 2 different outcomes).
I await the day Winter become as cynical as Cyrus or worse, the destroyer of worlds! MUAHAHAHAHAHA *stomp inner demon into shreds*
Can't say for the text. Interesting sure, but not necessarily stuff that I can't find elsewhere. I believe - beat me into a pulp if the author IS Aura - that Aura, the writer of Rin's route in KS is better than the Dysfunctional Systems author.
As for the profiles, you may make an extra one if you like. I anticipate that the DS would ultimately end with at least 4 to 5 different endings, but for Episode 1 only 2 profiles are needed (since there's 2 different outcomes).
I await the day Winter become as cynical as Cyrus or worse, the destroyer of worlds! MUAHAHAHAHAHA *stomp inner demon into shreds*
