Why Skyrim Made Me Appreicate Deus Ex: HR More

MegaTenLove · 2012-01-02T06:22:40-01:00

Skyrim is a good game. I would be pushing it if I said it was a very good game, though. It's a good game because it is interesting enough to pad out the traveling or area-skipping (from the map) stuff and keep what is essentially a time-waster game. However, Skyrim's story is fucking tired and dull, and every character is hollow and just a role being filled out (aside from Paarthurnax, who is the only character that HAS character and is pretty unique...mostly). _What does this have to do with Human Revolution? Not much aside from the fact that I once ranted on Deus Ex: HR believing it to be very lack luster when it came to the story and its characters. _The story behind Deus Ex was very good bordering on GREAT (were it not for those last ten minutes, it would be great). But you know what? I'll forgive those last ten minutes in light of the fucking laziness in Skyrim's plot. You are a hero foretold in legend out to kill Not-Lucifer after he comes back from the afterlife to destroy mankind. What revelations were had in Skyrim were totally inconsequential. Deus Ex was a mystery. Yeah, it went a little batshit with the Illuminati, but it was a good kind of batshit. A VERY good kind. The biggest crime of all is that, at no point in Skyrim does anyone really seem affected by the dragons. They're affected by the war, but not the ancient hellbeasts roaming the lands? I don't care if they forgot the legend of the Dovakiin (which, as is presented when you first kill a dragon, they didn't), there's FUCKING DRAGONS EATING PEOPLE ALIVE! And then the major side-quest stories don't seem to realize you're the Dovakiin. And then no one gives a rats ass that you killed Aldiun except a few passing guards. There's no substance to the main plot, and worst of all there's no weight. In Deus Ex everything you do in the story, everything that happens to you, affects the world. You get the sense that big shit is going down all across the world and that you're the only one left who can stop the biggest catastrophe in history. In Skyrim? Nope. I don't care dragons are killing us both. We need to negotiate to have a truce until the EPICLY HORRIFIC CRISIS is over with. Skyrim is a good game to waste time with, and that's all. Skyrim is an alright waste of time.

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ExESGO

12 years ago

MegaTenLove wrote...

You're right that, in light of what you told me, Deus Ex and Skyrim can't be compared to the fullest. However, Skyrim and Oblivion can. Oblivion had an interesting plot, good-to-great VA work, some very nice characters, a villain that wasn't a one dimensional monster (the old cult leader, I mean. Not the big evil giant thing at the end), and the main storyline affected the entire world.

If the writers just wanted to write a story about civil war in Cyrodil due to very realistic political circumstances, then why put in this thing about the dragons? It's clear barely anyone cares about them and the war is the only real thing that's talked about and worried about by everyone. The Jarls don't even care about the dragons until you mention Alduin. Some people even deny the existence of dragons all together!
_Then, after ending the main plot, aside from the blades, the Grey Beards, and a few passing guards from time to time, NO ONE mentions what you've done again. Not Tullius. Not Barlguf or whatever his name was. No one!
And whereas the Oblivion Gates closed after the main plot, thus signifying the final change in the world from the main plot (aside from the damage to the capital), in Skyrim the dragons don't even stop spawning! What was the point in killing Alduin if the dragons are going to keep popping up anyway?

I can understand that asking for characterization in a blank slate is too much sometimes. It wasn't too much in Persona 4 (or 2), as that blank slate had some parts of an established persona to add to your projection, but for the Elder Scrolls games it is. I can accept that. I wish more thought was put into everything else surrounding that blank slate, though.

And yes, Skyrim is very beautiful in certain areas. Since it's the arctic it's mostly just white, though. Very dull. Those other areas are gorgeous to look at. I liked following the foxes around.

Yeah, I personally also like Oblivion more (on top of it having tons of mods, which make my character looks beut). It just feels.. complete, eventhough it is buggy like every Bethesda game.

But, the fact that Skyrim is lacking.. it makes it a field day for us modders (especially once the Creation Kit comes out).

Imagine all the player houses/castle/shed/etc., most of which would have a quest so that you can aquire it or all the overhaul mods. Hell, even without the tools yet, we are getting some stuff out.

pozertron

12 years ago

If it's originality you want, Elder Scrolls II : Daggerfall is the way to go. It's by far my favourite TES game. The world is HUGE, dungeons are RANDOM, treasures are ENDLESS, customization is IMMENSE, graphics are CLASSY *i actually prefer the kind of graphics that Daggerfall has *X-Com UFO Defense for example has that dark vibe with these graphics, that it's remake UFO: Extraterrestrial just doesn't achieve*

The only downside which i have with Daggerfall is that there are not that much variety of items but, that's to be expected from such an old game.

ExESGO

12 years ago

pozertron wrote...

By huge world, you mean several of the "countries" in TES.

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