Maxiart wrote...
A question to you, though. Would you hold by what you just said if one of those soldier killed all your family? Would you still say "Ah, I cant really hate them, they just happen to be soldiers instead of salesmen" ?
I guess I have to explain every sentence I said.
But only for defending the country.
If my family happens to be a part of a terrorist organization that threatens to bomb places and disturb peace in my country then heck, no need for soldiers, I'll take the gun against them myself- Hollywood action movie style pew pew
If there are other reasons/motives, then it's a crime.
But if suddenly soldiers break through my house, saying false accusations about my family and start shooting them without any decent proof, it's clear that there's something wrong going on here and that only make the shooting an indiscriminate murder -> it's a crime -> people doing crime are criminals -> people
hate criminals -> I'm one of the people.
fatman wrote...
If anything, a person who kills anyone else because they're being paid to do so is pretty disgusting.
A lot of people are not as fortunate as you. No one likes to kill people in the first place, but they have little to no other options to keep on living. They're not disgusting, their environment is. And are you saying soldiers are disgusting too because they're paid and trained to kill people?
Soldiers don't have the luxury of deciding which orders are to defend the country and which are not. As a bit of devil advocacy on this topic, soldiers are trained to obey orders, since if they have to weigh which orders are moral or not, that would likely get them killed in the battlefield. They are trained to point, pull the trigger, and kill a target, not to differentiate which is a unarmed civilian and which isn't unless told specifically to do so.
You're missing my point. And a good army is
always ordered to differentiate between enemy soldiers and civilians and to secure civilians to safety. Yes, lots of them died because of hugging a crying child strapped with C4 beneath his clothes. Not all soldiers are mindless killing machines.
Not to say I don't want soldiers who commit genocide (or even just a single murder of a civilian) to go scot-free, though. They do(usually) have to the option _not_ to join the military in the first place. As far as I'm concerned "just following orders" is a bullshit defense.
You can see dr_roxo's post about it.