Fate/Zero Anime (TM FES Edition)
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Maxiart wrote...
Man, the lancers really got shit for luck, uh?Definitely. Even Carnival Phantasm has illustrated their lucks in the most precise manner. LOL.
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I new things would get dark here as soon as the episode opened with Sola-ui getting her arm cut off and Kayneth shooting Risei dead. What followed was one of the most engrossing anime episodes I believe I've ever seen.
I love it when an episode totally turns what you thought you knew about a character on it's head. I almost forgot how cold and ruthless a character Kiritsugu was painted to be in Heaven's Feel but this reminded me all right. During the course of my re-watch of the first season I paid careful attention to him and thought he was turning out to be a much better character than I originally thought. This episode proved me right.
I can't say I agree or approve of Kiritsugu's methods, in fact I'm definitely siding more with Saber here, but I can't argue that he nailed a few things at the end there. What's compelling about this is that the writing isn't siding with either character viewpoint, it feels as though both sides were presented at the end and the viewer can make what they will of it. Brilliant writing.
What's also interesting is how much of a contrast Kiritsugu is to Shirou from Fate/stay and the latter persons image of him. And, then you add Rin's distorted image of Tokiomi and you have a sort of commentary of how different "parents" can be from our "rose tinted" image of them. Both of these two are ultimately undeniably influenced by both of their fathers in Fate/stay.
As for Lancer, I thought it was once again great writing to end him the way the series did. It's depressing as shit, but it ultimately showed a downside to "honor" and, well, the scene of him cursing everyone (including Saber and Iri who had no idea of Kiritsugu's "plan".) was beyond powerful. His hate was incredibly well portrayed.
And, finally, the short scene with Kirei just shows him going further down the "dark" path. It'll be interesting when he and Kiritsugu eventually clash.
I love it when an episode totally turns what you thought you knew about a character on it's head. I almost forgot how cold and ruthless a character Kiritsugu was painted to be in Heaven's Feel but this reminded me all right. During the course of my re-watch of the first season I paid careful attention to him and thought he was turning out to be a much better character than I originally thought. This episode proved me right.
I can't say I agree or approve of Kiritsugu's methods, in fact I'm definitely siding more with Saber here, but I can't argue that he nailed a few things at the end there. What's compelling about this is that the writing isn't siding with either character viewpoint, it feels as though both sides were presented at the end and the viewer can make what they will of it. Brilliant writing.
What's also interesting is how much of a contrast Kiritsugu is to Shirou from Fate/stay and the latter persons image of him. And, then you add Rin's distorted image of Tokiomi and you have a sort of commentary of how different "parents" can be from our "rose tinted" image of them. Both of these two are ultimately undeniably influenced by both of their fathers in Fate/stay.
As for Lancer, I thought it was once again great writing to end him the way the series did. It's depressing as shit, but it ultimately showed a downside to "honor" and, well, the scene of him cursing everyone (including Saber and Iri who had no idea of Kiritsugu's "plan".) was beyond powerful. His hate was incredibly well portrayed.
And, finally, the short scene with Kirei just shows him going further down the "dark" path. It'll be interesting when he and Kiritsugu eventually clash.
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Now that I think about it. Did you guys notice the similarity in the words of Kiritsugu's words, and Heroic Spirit Emiya? Like father, like son I guess.
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Cyndas wrote...
Now that I think about it. Did you guys notice the similarity in the words of Kiritsugu's words, and Heroic Spirit Emiya? Like father, like son I guess.I also noticed how much they resemble physically (barring the stress-induced white hair, of course), even thought Kiritsugu and Shirou are not blood-related at all. Or is that just the art style?
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insan3soldiern wrote...
I new things would get dark here as soon as the episode opened with Sola-ui getting her arm cut off and Kayneth shooting Risei dead. What followed was one of the most engrossing anime episodes I believe I've ever seen.I love it when an episode totally turns what you thought you knew about a character on it's head. I almost forgot how cold and ruthless a character Kiritsugu was painted to be in Heaven's Feel but this reminded me all right. During the course of my re-watch of the first season I paid careful attention to him and thought he was turning out to be a much better character than I originally thought. This episode proved me right.
I can't say I agree or approve of Kiritsugu's methods, in fact I'm definitely siding more with Saber here, but I can't argue that he nailed a few things at the end there. What's compelling about this is that the writing isn't siding with either character viewpoint, it feels as though both sides were presented at the end and the viewer can make what they will of it. Brilliant writing.
What's also interesting is how much of a contrast Kiritsugu is to Shirou from Fate/stay and the latter persons image of him. And, then you add Rin's distorted image of Tokiomi and you have a sort of commentary of how different "parents" can be from our "rose tinted" image of them. Both of these two are ultimately undeniably influenced by both of their fathers in Fate/stay.
As for Lancer, I thought it was once again great writing to end him the way the series did. It's depressing as shit, but it ultimately showed a downside to "honor" and, well, the scene of him cursing everyone (including Saber and Iri who had no idea of Kiritsugu's "plan".) was beyond powerful. His hate was incredibly well portrayed.
And, finally, the short scene with Kirei just shows him going further down the "dark" path. It'll be interesting when he and Kiritsugu eventually clash.
Totally agree.
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Now that I think about it. Did you guys notice the similarity in the words of Kiritsugu's words, and Heroic Spirit Emiya? Like father, like son I guess.
Lol bro. Heroic spirit Emiya is the embodiment of Kiritsugu's ideals. Judging by that, he'd experienced most of the things Kiritsugu has, and pretty much thinks and feels the same way as him, his (Archer's) hypothetical existence that is.
@Kirei w/enlightenment: Imo, he hasn't yet reached enlightenment yet. Though this is just me bro.
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And Tokiomi's role was pretty cool in the whole series. For the guy who did everything by the book all his life, planned thoroughly and took every step possible to guarantee success, it's in those steps themselves that caused his downfall. Best servant, Archer, screwing up his plans (lol). Puppet Master with Assassin that kills him (lol).
Basically Gen was showing you can't win like that bro. Gotta be douche. through and through.
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Wish description for Saber's boss bike was there though.
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Tohsaka family characteristic perhaps? That for all their planning and preparation, one simple mistake pretty much blows everything up in their face?
EDIT: And in an earlier episode, did Natalie remind anyone else of (blue hair) Touko?
EDIT: And in an earlier episode, did Natalie remind anyone else of (blue hair) Touko?
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HiroyukiShota wrote...
Ep. 18 Spoiler:
That aside, Tanned women sure are hot eh?
Spoiler:
They changed the ending song; it's 満天 by Kalafina. (I think)
As for my earlier post:
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Anyway, next is the second half of the interlude. Can't wait for next week~
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K.Epiren wrote...
HiroyukiShota wrote...
Ep. 18 Spoiler:
That aside, Tanned women sure are hot eh?
Spoiler:
They changed the ending song; it's 満天 by Kalafina. (I think)
As for my earlier post:
Spoiler:
Anyway, next is the second half of the interlude. Can't wait for next week~
Thanks for the song name, it's the vocalized version of Let The Star Fall or something from OST 1. That was the most satisfying episode of any anime I've watched in a long time.
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Hentanize
rebaS
A medicine that can turn someone into a dead apostle? Never heard of that.
Suddenly I want them to make a whole anime spin off based on the characters we've seen in episode 18 haha. (And not just cameos)
Suddenly I want them to make a whole anime spin off based on the characters we've seen in episode 18 haha. (And not just cameos)
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K.Epiren wrote...
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I personally didn't disliked it at all, it brings out the "revenge" factor more from Kiritsugu to fatally wound his father with Shirley's knife.
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
K.Epiren wrote...
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I dislike it, how they made the gun to be Noritaka's. He's not supposed to has gun, I see him as the same type as Tokiomi.
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I liked this episode. The entire change of scenery and character lead made it feel so different from Fate. ESPECIALLY with the incorporation of magic it felt like Fate all the same. What an amazing series. But seriously, what the hell.
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