Newer vs. Older Animes
Do you like the newer animes or the older ones?
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Xil
Norse God of Sawdust
I watch a lot from the mid 2000s, but generally don't watch the older styles.
I've been know to, and there are plenty of good ones before the golden years of anime, just don't set out to watch as many as the new(er) ones.
I've been know to, and there are plenty of good ones before the golden years of anime, just don't set out to watch as many as the new(er) ones.
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Cinia Pacifica
Ojou-sama Writer
xerovlade016 wrote...
New anime these days suck it's not even funny :VLol...
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All this moe-boom stuff and mindless fanservice has left me in despair!
Where have you gone, story-driven anime! D:
Where have you gone, story-driven anime! D:
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
vaLentine wrote...
New animes have better art or better animation than old animes, but still some new anime are just so whatever. What matter most for me is their content or story or so. So I didn't vote.Bullshit.
animehot2 wrote...
New animes surpass old when it comes to drawing, plot, voice and graphics But we can never forget the classics that started it all
Bullshit.
You people never watched stuff from the OVA boom. Hmm... how to qualify what I'm speaking about:
1960-1970': Early anime, creation of classical genres
1980-1990': OVA BOOM, masssive experimentation, ridiculously high budgets, anime branches out into more adult themes. Debut of a new generation of directors and artists. Sci-fi is the flagship theme and anime frequently have cool settings made for the show. Also (body-)horror and over the top violence.
1990-2000': Age of Televise anime with frequent product tie-ins. Widespread Commercialization, end of high budgets, Codification of several genres. Era of deconstructions, often darker and edgier. Earlier new generation is making a variety of shows. More TV shows, so violence (compared to the boom) was toned down. Still quite a lot of good shows.
2010-today: Age of Otaku and DVD sales. Milking genres and pandering to earlier tropes... genuine invention is harder to encounter, usually relegated to big budget projects with veterans in the seat. Possible crash of industry due the over-reliance on shows pandering to fandom instead innovation. In one word: All that MOESHIT. Good shows are still made, however they're less frequent than before due overt codification and executive meddling.
PS.: No, I can enjoy good find slice of life animes as well as one focusing on "cute" things... however when this is done to the detriment of everything else (story, characterisation, innovation) then I find it highly annoying.
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Cinia Pacifica
Ojou-sama Writer
znxbcv2121 wrote...
Reading through Flaser's posts is like listening to a hermit...This lol, his points are always solid and right on.
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I like the old anime...traditionally hand drawn, lots of sweat, love and hard work placed on them...
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As time moves onward, so does storytelling and film techniques! Take a classic anime like Mazinger Z, for the time the super robot genre was new and exciting, and the action was thrilling. But today, it's animation is dated and story about a super powered robot that beats everyone through is cliche. These days instead of shounen action that will stale in a few years, we have moe moe girls that we throw away when a new one comes along and comedy that might not be funny next generation. True, good anime have passed by that didn't age that badly like serial experiments lain, cowboy bebop, or Grave of the fireflies; which are generally praised for their storytelling value and ability to entertain. Telling a story a great story can come any time, like recently, there was Puella Magi Madoka Magica. Old anime were meant to entertain people at that time, if it still entertains people now, then great. New anime is meant to entertain people now, if it entertains people in the future, awesome.
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DarkdaemonPK2 wrote...
I like the old anime...traditionally hand drawn, lots of sweat, love and hard work placed on them...Animes today aren't hand drawn?
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
OhSHI-! wrote...
DarkdaemonPK2 wrote...
I like the old anime...traditionally hand drawn, lots of sweat, love and hard work placed on them...Animes today aren't hand drawn?
What they're talking about it primarily shading and CGI. In the past, when stuff was done of cells, shading had to be done by hand and everything on the scene was also drawn. When computers (and digital tablets) started to replace cells, studios switched to computer assisted shading and more and more stuff was created using CGI.
Granted, you can do amazing things on digital animation - often by hand - however, most studios simply use digital shading and CGI as cost cutting measures. It also resulted in a lot simpler character designs... all done to cut down on manpower needed per frame.
In the end, "digital anime" while seemingly "nice" can be often very sparse and once one grows accustomed to its quirks is just skin deep. Granted there are still animes with awesome animation and elaborate shading/design out there, it's just that most of the time it's not the case.
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Flaser wrote...
OhSHI-! wrote...
DarkdaemonPK2 wrote...
I like the old anime...traditionally hand drawn, lots of sweat, love and hard work placed on them...Animes today aren't hand drawn?
What they're talking about it primarily shading and CGI. In the past, when stuff was done of cells, shading had to be done by hand and everything on the scene was also drawn. When computers (and digital tablets) started to replace cells, studios switched to computer assisted shading and more and more stuff was created using CGI.
Granted, you can do amazing things on digital animation - often by hand - however, most studios simply use digital shading and CGI as cost cutting measures. It also resulted in a lot simpler character designs... all done to cut down on manpower needed per frame.
In the end, "digital anime" while seemingly "nice" can be often very sparse and once one grows accustomed to its quirks is just skin deep. Granted there are still animes with awesome animation and elaborate shading/design out there, it's just that most of the time it's not the case.
My intelligence can't completely comprehend but I get some of it. Thanks anyway.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
Watch this young, whipper snappers! Unless you can identify a good dozen (more like two dozen) animes featured in this video you are NOT familiar with anime history and probably haven't watched enough stuff made before 2000.
BTW this video is close to 10 years old:
BTW this video is close to 10 years old:
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
Flaser wrote...
Unless you can identify a good dozen (more like two dozen) animes featured in this video you are NOT familiar with anime history and probably haven't watched enough stuff made before 2000.I recognized 49 titles, watched 30-ish of them. So how much titles were in that clip anyway?
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
Kaimax wrote...
Flaser wrote...
Unless you can identify a good dozen (more like two dozen) animes featured in this video you are NOT familiar with anime history and probably haven't watched enough stuff made before 2000.I recognized 49 titles, watched 30-ish of them. So how much titles were in that clip anyway?
97 titles. Full list below. Don't check this, 'til you've watched the video
Spoiler:
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
Flaser wrote...
Kaimax wrote...
Flaser wrote...
Unless you can identify a good dozen (more like two dozen) animes featured in this video you are NOT familiar with anime history and probably haven't watched enough stuff made before 2000.I recognized 49 titles, watched 30-ish of them. So how much titles were in that clip anyway?
97 titles.
Lol After looking at the list, I actually recognized 59, guess I lost count, and didn't expect "movies" to be counted as a different title, no wonder X got a longer video time in that clip.
