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I have to agree with baka. The whole global warming thing is about it affecting us in both the near and far..

I used to believe in global warming. I don't as much anymore.

Not saying that we can't affect the planet. But I don't think it's as bad as liberals make it out to be.

Seeing as how they blame it for why terrorism exists or they try to divert to it when other things are more important.

And I think that increasing taxes to accommodate for projects that ultimately cannot be determined to have any real effects is foolish.

Also the fact that liberals continually try to make laws to forbid people from saying that they don't believe in it. Calling them climate change deniers, even if it's simply for criticising the programs that they try to enact.

I disagree with Reno that it's not a big deal, but what's your plan to deal with climate change?

It's not like we could tell other nations what to do. since China is the lead creator of pollution right now.

Debating whether or not it exists nowadays is pretty stupid when there are thousands of scientific journals that have proven it to be true.

Let Johnny O. explain:

What the Fuck did I just say

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> John Oliver

Funny how you always quote John Oliver and yet you accuse me of getting all my information from Infowars

You guys post faster than me and my slow fingers. ;w;

Can you actually just articulate a point with your own words instead of constantly doing this shit?

Like maybe link a scientific paper, or an article, instead of posting videos with John Oliver. Because you're quickly becoming one of the stupidest people I know on this site. And before you start, I know you're not trolling. You make it evidently clear when you say something you believe.

Advance fuel efficiency while investing in clean energy. Making better electric and biofuel cars. Cut emission on the road and livestock methane. Funny enough a lot of dairy farmers run there sheds and convert cow shit to run the power and fruit dryers and packing here. Alot of the greenhouse gasses are from livestock farts and waste. Invest in better natural gas capture. Fracking causes a lot of problems. Fucks land and water. Leaks of the gas are worst than burning coal and oil per Sq inch. But china and India also have to stop also polluting since they do much more.

But in the long run we're too fuck to stop what happen. Only stave off the worst that can happen. But I'm not a politician. Most of this is from reading newspapers and that gasland doc. I'm just some random guy who shoots pictures and reads Chinese comics.

I feel somewhat similar. But I'd be hard pressed to simply throw money at people or make laws from simply making cars that aren't as efficient as others. But I guess as more people are reliant on better and better mileage for their cars, that problem would somewhat solve itself.

I feel like the best way to cut down on methane emissions is by ending farm subsidies that encourage over production and having a lot of livestock. But cutting all that down is just a drop in the ocean compared to giant lake of frozen methane up in the frosty north that might melt.

Don't really know what to do about China and India myself. Damage trade to force them to stop their development strides? Never going to happen.

Simply saying that we should research it to make it more efficient and affordable will not make it so.

No matter how much you try, the cost for these things to be created will be extremely high.

It doesn't help that whenever there's a crowdfunding projects it's usually a scam. like solar panel roadways.

And honestly, companies that deal with natural oil and such will continue to get in the way of real progress in that field.

As I said, it's not that I don't believe that we can affect the environment or that it's not important.

Let me put it this way if they put out a top-of-the-line vehicle that ran entirely on biodegradable fuel and creates almost no pollution.

The amount of money that had to be used to research it, design it and ultimately build it will be added to the price tag.

For the average citizen. The people who are most likely to have a vehicle that creates a lot of pollution. Are also the ones least likely to afford those new cars.

We would also have to think about what to do with all the old cars that were left over.

Not to mention that the manufacturing for such Vehicles would probably create pollution in itself.

to expect any investor to fund such an Endeavor, a project that does not have clear profits, is a high risk.

And making it a government-funded project would just put more pressure on our governments finances.

Edit: seems someone doesnt like realism

Hah, my thread has turned into a debate thread.

I expected this, and you guys didn't disappoint me.

^_^

Well, this election had to be the biggest upset in American History. I'm sure if Trump wasn't such a potty mouth it probably would've been a landslide victory for him. Unless of course the electoral college votes screwed him over like it did Killary.

No, I feel like maybe he won BECAUSE of his potty mouth.

Or rather, if not for his potty mouth, people would more than likely have sided more with Hillary.

It comes down to advertisement and exposure in my opinion, and any press is good press in the world of media, including bad press exposure.

Well, in Hillary's case she was trying to also have a good reputation, which backfired with all of the fishy stuff going on (possibly) with her e-mails.

The scandal with the attorney general didn't help, either.

Things are incredibly divisive in politics recently, but that's not without merit when it comes to politicians furthering their own goals.

Bad for the people, good for the elite.

Believe whatever you want, the prerequisite to become a politician and take office, is to be a slimy motherfucker.

Every single one of these people is just trying to convince you they're less evil than the others.

Sadly, politics is always the battle of lesser and greater evils.

Arguably, this time people chose the lesser or greater evil, depends on what you believe and who you chose.

Though, to be fair Trump did lose the popular vote by roughly 1 million votes.

That's not to excuse that 1/2 of registered voters (121 million people) didn't even vote this year.

Fuck you guys and your complaints, if you didn't even vote, or even write someone in, you have no right to complain.

If you at least wrote someone in, I could understand, but most people didn't even do that, and pretending you care now is like pretending you're not a whiny entitled little bitch.

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Anyway, back to things related to this, Trump claims to want to make more drastic changes, whereas Hillary wanted to continue the legacy of Barack Obama.

I'm not taking either side of republican or democrat, since I wrote in someone non-affiliated to the four parties that ran this time.

Of course, they wouldn't win, even though I did try convincing others they were clearly less terrible than the four people that ran.

It seems (going by the roughly 59 million voters who voted for him) roughly 1/6 Americans "want" drastic changes that (they believe) Trump will bring.

Whether or not they will happen is yet to be seen.

I feel like in both of the mainstream candidates cases, most people that voted for them were not making fully informed decisions, only taking what they know from media or online articles.

It's better to actually look at what they have said or written themselves, and their stances on the issues, than taking things other people say with anything more than a grain of salt.

I strongly urge people to vote for a better president than the four that ran this time in 2020.

https://70news.wordpress.com/2016/11/12/final-election-2016-numbers-trump-won-both-popular-62-9-m-62-7-m-and-electoral-college-vote-306-232-hey-change-org-scrap-your-loony-petition-now/

Unsure how accurate this is

If it was from a news place and not twitter/facebook/some random blog made to do be 'citizen journalism' then maybe. With that... even fox news is reporting Clinton was half a million more votes over the donald.

And the rest of the newspapers and news outlets who has a count on the mobile side are similar. Sadly we don't have one govt site with the tally since we have 50 states who in charge for the public vote so unless you want to go to every state site plus dc and calculate them, but all the news organizations are doing right now anyway. There still absentee ballots from outside the United States from citizens in different countries and the military, but doubt it will matter. Most of them send it in like me a month ago and they get them earlier that us state dide.

But those numbers were decided before they even finished counting them. They really should check.

Funny thing was Trump was ahead by two million at the moment he was announced the winner.

If they can "update" the information to show her winning, it should go the other way as well.

At the very least we'll stop getting retards that say that Hillary won because she got the popular vote.

So 30 mins ago update isn't fast enough... from the Republican news channel? I'm sure all the votes received by yesterday to when the first vote cast has been counted with the other 50 states... because cali has counted all the ballots... the largest election in the US. Atleast the ones not send after the election post marked. 500 thousand ballots aren't gonna be received with Tuesday postmark.

But does it really matter if he does? Will it change the fact he is the president elect unless he caught doing something the congress has to impeach him or someone blows him up? Bush lost by 2 million vote, he still was the president. Fucking Quincy Adams didn't even win the popular nor electoral vote and still the president. Votes don't matter in the prez elections. Only what states you won on the big map of numbers.