Feminism is a movement of equality and tolerance :)

Tis' true.

This thread and reno.

wassup nig

That was a joke on how loosely that word gets used...

Anywho

I'm done for tonight.

G'bye people

That got me to thinking maybe if I purge the Earth with a meteor then all this evilness and hatred on Earth will go away. Or maybe all I have to do is to have enough Human Willpower to push back a huge meteor away with some sort of New Gundam.

The problem is that the dictionary definition of feminism that you just posted isn't what present day feminism is. Its what feminism used to be when women were trying to get the right to vote and whatnot, but feminism as it exists today is actually designed to make men and women unequal rather than equal.

There's no such thing as "modern feminism", the definition of feminism has always been the same, what we see today isn't feminism anymore, if it doesn't fit the definition then it isn't it, extremist feminists use that word to justify their shitty behaviours, they're just sexists, extremist feminists, liars, bitches and cunts.

That largely depends on where you are, does it not? There are still places where women aren't allowed to vote, drive, work with w/e they want, get abortions etc.

Besides that women/men are still not equal due to old social constructs. That women/men are legally equal doesn't mean we're equal due to social stigmas. Which is largely what modern feminism is about, and this is where misandrists who call themselves feminists thrive. This is a problem, granted. Since we are somewhat equal (if not completely.) it gets fuzzier and fuzzier on what parts should legally be changed, and what things must we encourage and inform the public to change to become more equal.

Here in Sweden (Most equal in the world, allegedly.) the latest big debates have been female quotas on company boards, which I will not get into as there are both positive and negatives about this, but also attempts to raise the stigma for stay-home dads. Legally, the child benefits checks should be divided onto both parents (As now the standard is that if both parents have equal custody the mother gets the check.) but also to encourage fathers to actually take out their paternity leave - if they want to. As well as making it more even when determine who should have the custody of the child in cases of divorce.

There are a lot of these small things that need to change, both legal and in forms of social constructs.

It's a balancing act, and not an easy one. It's easy for both sides to step on someones toes and that riles people up and often ends in a shitstorm.

don't get married

solves everything

RENO QUIZ TIME
Imagine you were left on a deserted island with a pack of stereotypical feminist ladies. Would you
a)rape them one by one
b)ditch them and go to the other side of the island
c)stay and look out for them [size=10]maybe in hopes that anyone can change given the circumstances[/h]

Where's the choice where I cook them for a month's worth of dinner?

Feminists=/=Womynists

Haha, you're unironically telling someone to check their privilege. Priceless.
Wage discrepancies? Yep, everyone who determines their employees wages are women hating bigots who don't determine things based on experience, time spent with a company, diploma, what shift they're taking and other work related things.
Nope they're just sexist.(and probably racist too.
Ahh, the old "glass ceiling" point. More or less the same as the last point.
"Rates of spousal abuse". Aren't men like 40% victims of all domestic violence? Why are turning domestic violence into a gender issue when it clearly isn't?
Rape also isn't a symptom of Patriarchy or the "man trying to keep down women".(nor is it exclusively a female issue)
There's a huge problem with conviction because sometimes people just drop cases altogether, and sometimes it comes down to "this group's word against that group's word". At this point we meet two different kinds of feminist, the majority want to take the side of the person accusing rape, a small minority feel that innocent till proven guilty.

Man, the whole subject of rape and other violent sexual crimes have a whole array of problems, and it doesn't help that you trivialize it so much.
As for "asking for it"...That's not a real defense against any form of sexual assault. It's the same with slut shamming, no one is forcing people to wear certain clothes for their own safety(well not in most instances that don't relate to dangerous jobs). There has to be an understanding of personal responsibility, and that making yourself more vulnerable isn't a good idea. No one is stopping me from not locking my home/car at night, and no one is forcing me not to walk around Detroit or South Central LA with giant wads of cash.
Media portrayal is mixed. For everyone. Also gender codes are something made out of convinience? Yeah it sucks that sometimes you can't always find pink baby clothes for boys in every department store...but is that a serious issue?



This logic doesn't make sense. If I asked you if you believe in love and forgiveness for your fellow men(and women), and you said "sure", does that make you a Christian? No, but you're basically doing the same thing.



I'm not a feminist, but there are a lot of human's right issues many of them being primarily women's issues related that need addressing in all parts of the world.



There is no concrete definition of Feminism or what makes a "feminist". There's thousands of different issues, and people with their own thoughts on it. It's no longer an activist group/movement, but a more akin to a set of various philosophies that prioritize women's issues and non-issues.

There are also many types of feminist. One's who sexualization as liberating, others see it as oppressive.(Slutwalk was somewhat diveded)
There are those who don't think reproductive rights are a women's rights.(because their harboring another human life inside of them, and very often do people abort babies based on genders in some countries)
There are feminist who are adamant about personal responsibilities and equality, there are others who don't equality can exist without men bowing down and becoming commodities.
And although you might not like them, people who get bent over video games/comic books/tv shows and call anyone who disagrees with them "evil white-cis-hereto shitlords" are feminist too. You can't pull out the old "Not a true Scotsmen" fallacy.

I thank god that didn't cross my mind, cause i thought a) would already be legit enough.

also there's leaves, maybe coconuts, potable rain and what else is there on a stereotypical deserted island, so you don't have to.

It says a lot that your response to a laundry list of legitimate issues is first dazed confusion, and then an insult. But you keep cherry picking those videos. I can selectively counter your shit too. The wage gap is one particularly complex issue. You linking to a statistically dubious post on the self same site you decry does not magically win you the argument.



The internet, ladies and gentlemen! Yes, why should people listen to alternate opinions when they could accept your inscrutable argument verbatim? What good is stuff like cross referencing or debate or facts anyway? Boy, I am glad that you 'know' that feminism is bunk while openly admitting that you won't listen to any argument to the contrary, that's really sorted that one out. Let's just assume that the right option is the one that doesn't involve any self assessment or action of any kind, that sounds fucking marvellous.



All I'd say is that none of the things you claim to have debunked are anywhere near as clear cut as you make them out to be. Domestic abuse is fraught with problems including low rates of self-reporting by female victims, low rates of men admitting to perpetrating it, inflation of male victim figures by including those for self-defence, not to mention the figure that 40% of murders of women are perpetrated by their spouse, which is far higher than the reverse. That is one, I posted a link about the wage gap. Media influence is massively, disproportionately against women, and I say that as someone with a degree in journalism.

Also the notion of 'check your privilege' making an argument redundant is the same logic by which people get labelled as SJWs and suddenly everything they say is redundant. It's lazy, reductive and shows a complete unwillingness to listen to an argument and debate it on its merits. But that's a more general point and not really aimed at you, since you did at least broach the points.