Crazy Christian Ladies

has anyone seen the movie the mist? that movie was a great rendition of the book in my opinion, but god did the religious lady ruin the buzz at times. she gets her cumupins though, oh she certainly does. i just think that these fanatics are a little to over justified, there are plenty of other ways to force your opinion on others... like torture or fear! i think teaching in this way is contradictory to their beliefs, your sapose to love and support one another... despite opinions.

... completely untrue and slightly offensive...

The question is what and how exactly is the term "logical" used these days. How does ones brain define it for oneself? Those crazy ladies knew they were being logical.

When I personally use the word logical I mean it as "understanding reason". If you can't stop and talk calmly about something (even if you disagree with the subject) or are being irrational then I don't consider you a logical person. Such as in the second movie the guy was being calm and polite and yet she flew off the handle because of his disagreement. In my view she isn't logical. If something can't be rationalized then its not logical. I personally couldn't rationalize being a Christian when I was younger and I came to the belief that I currently hold (being an Atheist)

Though as you said being "logical" is all up to ones definition. Read Russell's Teapot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

Logical is an objective term, not subjective. To use pure logic is to...how do I put this? You know Tousen from Bleach? His view of taking the path that would result in the least lives being lost, despite it meaning he's following the villain, would be a path taken from a logical standpoint, regardless of how cold and unforgiving logic can be. Logic is not something held back by emotions. Rather, emotions hinder and warp logic.

Therefore, these women are not being logical in the slightest, as they are allowing their personal beliefs to affect their judgement. Cold as it sounds, a person's logic is strongest when they cast off all beliefs regarding an issue and simply look at it in it's most basic form.

I have NEVER met a logical christian before. I asked a christian science teacher why is it so hard to believe that there is evolution?
He answers with this...

"Well I mean everything with you people has to be coincidental, that we have brains, lungs and everyting. I mean thats just ridiculous, we cant just be created by an explosion, for no reason. Our bodies are created through Gods breath, and they said we came from apes?"

And I was pretty mad, about the fact that everything has to have a purpose for these guys. I mean does the fact the kids dying in Africa have to have a purpose? Nothing has a fucking purpose, we were borned just to fucking live, why the fuck would God make dumbass rules about sins, and say that he had to fucking kill a guy to save our sins? What kind of dumbass purpose is that, when he doesnt have to make those dumbass sin rules. Like hell, they say that the worlds about 10,000 years old!

Translation @ Spoiler in BLACK text

lol it's ok, I wasnt able to stay mad at you for more then 30 seconds, who could stay mad at ragakitty?

A terrible person, it would take a terrible person to stay mad at something so adorable.

As an athesit I believe everything has a purpose. Those Brains and lungs where some of the most effecient ways to surive so it happened. People in Africa strave for complex social and poltical reasons that have started since the dawn of civilsation. Its just that we are responsible...not some guy in a cloud. People don't want to take the credit for mess they've made...hence why God was invented. I may be wrong on this....its just what I beleive.

I see it from that point of view as well, what I meant was that it was a decicion from an invisible person, who lives above us -_-

I'm not some dumbasss that thinks that humans dont need lungs

What ever happened to: "To each their own" ?

*sigh*

Yeah right, like it ever existed. As long as humans feel a need to connect themselves to larger things in order to define themselves or get a feeling of self worth, they will always want to tear down what other's have connected themselves to, in order to make what they are connected to seem "right". People will always want to prove other's connections weaker than their own, because it's easy to connect yourself to something large in scale that everyone knows about (such as a church/political party etc.). And via that prove your "worth" by simply saying you belong to that group, which is of course superior to all similar groups. It's much easier and quicker than actually standing on your own as a human being and letting yourself be judged and judge others on their own individual merit.

Humans will always feel a need for that connection to something greater than themselves (race, city, state, country, political party, company, religion, sports team, music band, tv show, etc. etc. etc.). It's just too bad that most of them can't figure out that the greatest thing they can belong to is that of Humanity as a whole, which should override all those other trivial connections. I wonder when they will learn.

i still hold that sentiment so your not completely alone. I couldn't care less if someone worship a cow, a statue, an imaginary friend or the almighty milk jug. Humanity has begun to lose its individuality. Its easier to just join a group and give up the self rather than do it the other way. The sad thing about humanity is. Put two of us in a room and we immediately pick sides and start plotting ways on how to kill one another.

That's the thing, it's not just losing it's individuality that is the problem. It's that, as I stated, the thing people are losing their individuality to are petty and inconsequential connections mostly. The only greater connection that would allow us to maintain our individuality without causing conflict would be to realize that we're all members of the human race, and that is our major connection.

Instead most people (especially those in western culture) seem to have an inside out circle of importance, instead of an outside in. In order for humanity to truely progress our greatest attachments and connections should be to the largest circles of connection, primarily our collective homeo-sapieness. Instead most people have their strongest connections to those things closest to their own bodies (immediate family, local church, local high school, city, etc.), which does make sense. Unfortunately due to our desire to feel less like a spec of dust in a vast universe it will forever doom humanity to a world of violence and conflict over which of these connections is superior.

There needs to be a paradigm shift within the entire human race. One that allows us to feel important and give us a true sense of accomplishment and pride to call ourselves human. Currently most people get that feeling more from saying "I'm a Star Wars fan" or "I'm a Yankee Fan" then saying "I'm a human". Which is mostly due to the fact that EVERYONE on this planet that you can talk to is human, and thus it doesn't allow us to differentiate ourselves from those around us to make ourselves feel superior.

Your final statement would be more accurate if you said "Put three of us in a room and one will immediately pick sides with the one they feel is most similar to them and start plotting ways on how to kill the other one." Because of this the best way for humanity to actually evole and realize how important our connection as humans is, would be for us to have something to unite against as a whole, such as something silly like an alien/demon/robot/evolved monkey invasion or something. Because nothing like that exists at the moment, we tear each other apart instead, and find divisions within ourselves that shouldn't be important.


Erm...yea...soo.... /rant off. :oops:

I just said two for simplicity. Two is the smallest number in which people can choose sides. Most often even with people who are almost identical in every aspect will eventually find something to disagree over. If a disagreement doesn't come before something like starvation then they will plot to kill the other person thus reaffirming my statement. Either way 2-3 or whatever number of people the end result will be the same. An interesting idea is this is similar behavior to men in prison. Its either join up with a side or die.

because no one can fucking keep it to themselves. If they didn't knock on my door, trying to convert me, I wouldn't care as much.

That comment applies to both sides of the arguement, FYI. I wasn't singling out non-religious people for being anti-religion.

Why can't there be a balance with you people?

What if God made the "Big Bang"? Nobody talks about that alternative.

I aksed that question to a priest before, he says that it doesnt go with the bible at all. It was suppose to be like this for them, God said let there be light, and the sun just appears there... heh...

Nono, the Bible clearly states the universe and world was created in 7 days. Unless you're saying the Bible is lying?