Desertion?

I've noticed that the Fakku forums have been pretty slow lately (even before the server change) and that the IRC is usually dead, even if it's filled with people. I've also noticed that several things have been set up by forum members that are completely independent from Fakku. The Random Squad has its own site, and there's a chat room-esque thing called Chat-Roll that's basically IRC with avatars. I notice that these things exist, and I notice that the forums and IRC channel are slow, and I start to wonder - Are people deserting Fakku?

That sounds sensationalist, but I don't mean it that way. I'm not saying that the RS or Chat-Roll or any things created by users are bad; I am simply curious about the existence of such things and the activity lull that the forums have been experiencing lately.

Are there users out there who prefer those things to the forums? Does anyone feel like they can post things on those sites that they can't post here? Why feel the need to create/visit a chat room when the IRC already exists?

This topic has been brought up before in Chatroll, and the main reason why we use Chatroll instead of IRC is due to the sheer amount of trolls and noobs in there. Also, Chatroll allows the users to upload pictures, links and videos, which is something that IRC does not allow. If you pop over more often you'll see what I mean. It is basically a much better chat thread.

I don't think it has anything to do with the forums becoming slower, at least not for me. I'm still posting as much as I always post. The existence of Chatroll has simply slowed the post count in the chat thread.

I believe it is the formation of cliques. An example would be IRC and the Random Squad. When the R.S. members split it was due to the flaming and grief they took for their rampant spamming and topic derailments. So R.S. formed their own little clique while a few IRC members have already developed their own. I can't comment on chatroll as I never knew they existed before now.

In short, it's like high school and little social groups have been formed.

If you ask me, I do feel like leaving/deserting FAKKU!, but not just to jump over any irc channels to chat. I'm not really into real-time chats nor "chatty" for that matter and if you know me irl, I'm a man of a few words; neither elsewhere online... or maybe not (if this post is to be considered) :lol:

I prefer "forum-based discussions" way more than of "irc" cause one can "really think/formulate" the ideas/thoughts he's got in mind "thoroughly" and even go over (review) it several times before deciding to say/post something that would actually make sense; which can truly be significant and provide further insight to the topic at hand... whereas in irc, the topic could drastically change in no time.

For the reason as to why I've felt like "deserting" - I didn't mean it as if I'd permanently never show up in here again but rather I just feel like giving up / dropping some of my usual activities... and quite frankly, I'm getting a bit tired of it. Seriously, who wouldn't?! It ain't that easy for me to come up with such discussion threads you know... I always exert truckloads of effort, esp when it comes to "word usage" (since I'm not a native English speaker); and I definitely put in all of my thoughts and pour in (express) my wholehearted feelings. While I truly do appreciate that a few people bothers to read my posts/comments, much to those who reply; shares wisdom, opinions, criticisms, and even answers my "rhetorical questions" lol (you know yourselves) - I'm very thankful to you guys... but to be honest, it isn't quite enough to keep me from going on till kingdom come. It's undeniable that FAKKU! has never been and will never be an intellectual anime-oriented forum site that I had hope it would become.

Enough of my irrelevant sentiments, now if anyone here knows some place where I can put my "enthusiast" into good use; where my existence may prove to have more meaning, please show me the way (recommend/provide sites/links)... I'm losing hope fast... or I might as well say that I've already lost all hope since awhile ago and I just don't wanna admit that I fell in love with the wrong place. :wink:

I really really really want the forums to stay and continue to be active as much as possible. I will do everything I can to make everyone want to post. This includes stepping up moderation on trolls/retarded posters. And I would like to see the IRC more active as well, though if you guys use this chat site that's fine too.

Last I checked, I can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. Which means I can also chat and post here normally, without neglecting one or the other in any fashion. Right now it's just a bit slow since there are still a few problems, so I think it is a bit early to say that people have jumped ship.

i hope fakku can be brought back to it's prime time again <__<

We believe in Jacob like he believes in us

Jacob, you guys are the best admins any forum can ask for. Your efforts are not unappreciated, so don't overdo yourself. Every day the first thing I do is log on and see what's happening and that shows this site is still very interesting. As zeriam says, we believe in you and the team to continue maintaining our great environment.

I also kinda hope it's all due the (more and more minor IMHO) technical issues and people dropping out of the rhythm for that past week. I mean, IRC has always been there and it's not that the people active there became absent on the forums (few exceptions perhaps).
As for the chatroll thingy ... I kinda expected it to die a natural death with the site going back online. It's not that I have anything against it (wisted it myself a few times) but it's kinda low on users and was meant (at least I thought so) as a temporary replacement for Fakku.

Anyways, I completely agree with tsuyoshiro on the subject. It's not that we can't do a few things at a time and spending all your time around the same people who complement your every statement seems kinda ... boring.

Only the random squad goes on it. It's, as I said, just a new Chat Thread.

It can't hold too many people anyway. If the numbers reach a certain peak, this happens:

Fakku has feelt less fun for a long time for me due to the low forum activity, the constant errors, the overall atmosphere that feels more crap than it used to, and the fact that obvious trolls like Freenadia gets to roam free without mods giving a shit is just annoying.
I like a losely mod'ed forum, but there's a diffrence between losely mod'ed and not mod'ed at all (close to anyway).
The mods are doing a fine job (except with the trolls..), so im not complaining about them, but there are too few of 'em, and as stated many times before the forum has no mod on like 85% of the time.

Uploading stuff isn't as fun either anymore, dunno if it's because of all the idiots asking the same question in all the threads making me go insane or if it's the link-prot i have to put on every link.

About irc vs chatroll..
Irc is total crap imo, during the downtime i was logged in there to check for updates, and the same amount of talking that was made during a day in there was made in like 30min-1hour in chatroll, and often the people talking was just some unknown lurkers (who talked about how the forum was full of idiot and how awesome they were lolz).
So it's practically Chatroom with Fakku regulars vs Chatroom with unknown lurkers with an attitude.

That said, im pretty sure Fakku will bounce back, it's not like it's crap, only less fun.

I apologize if making a chat roll has caused any hostilities in Fakku. As what Das mentioned, it was meant to be a temporary place for Fakku during the down time; also I didn't have a IRC client so I thought a c-box was more convenient. I still post in the forums. Also, Imperial mentioned that chat roll was just another Chat thread aka Chat thread 3.0. I appreciate the work that the admins have put into this site so far. I am thankful for finding a cozy place with people of the same interests as me. I thank you Jacob, Nikon, Hibia, Raze, and others unmentioned.


@ Hermit,

I wouldn't say that it's that much of a problem. It feels a bit like what happened after the time warp, so hopefully Fakku should bounce right back with the incoming wave of people posting requests in the wrong section and asking if games are translated. :P

It might also be due to the new forum layout, so we'll see what happens in the near future.

We should stir up the IRC again Jebus.

We didn't abandon Fakku. Chatroll served as a "bunker" during Fakku downtime. When things get better here meaning all the bugs have been worked out and such, I'm sure things will go back to the way i was.

Fakku is less active because of the Chatroll and when RS and all the members left due to certain circumstances. The chatroll thing needs to be killed in my opinion and just go back to posting in IB. I see no difference between Chatroll and Chat thread except Chatroll takes user traffic away from Fakku which is bad.

Mods are another issue that really needs to be brought up again. Even tho it has been brought up a bunch of times in the past the only mod we have gotten is Teclo and he is section bound so he is no help to the rest of the forum (does a great job in request section tho). I won't go on about it has been a ridiculous amount of time since the words "we are getting more mods" have been said cause I've mentioned it before. I also think Gambler scared people a little with his "put on a smile and be nice" thread. Flaming is fun, it is. It makes teh lulz and spontaneous thread making is fun except when spamming. Fakku will bounce back I'm sure. Just give it time.

@Jonoe


PS, pardon me for the semi "off-topic" post but "private messaging" isn't properly working atm... in any case, just go ahead and read it, you nosy bastards!

Honestly, I'd perfer it if their WAS stricter moderation, but thats just me. I really stopped posting due to the decline in quality of the forums and the lack of moderation. Also, I'm sure part of it was due to my own laziness.

Jake's not adding any mods anytime soon, he did however say he was going to be mega active from now on.