Dude i fucking give up ! love is a skanky bitch

Some guys out there "being nice" is their merit. If the girl falls in love with the nice guy in first place, why would she cheat on him and hook up with a faggot? Simply put, I can't see how the blame would fall on the guy side except that it was his fault for having a relationship with such a capricious and flippant girl, and that's not easy to tell, especially once one is in a relationship.

Either that, or someone is telling us that being a jerk is the number one way to pick up girls, which if it is, than that's pretty damn sad.

It is isn't it? Unfortunately most of the time, from what I've seen, that's what tends to happen. And Ziggy makes a good point. That actually helped me a bit. Thanks.

great advice :3 thanks alot

Any girl who has self respect wouldn't be looking for a jerk to have a relationship with. So it's not all girls, just most of them - as most girls enjoy having something to complain about with their girlfriends.

@Ziggy: Oh ya, my post wasn't meant to lambast the entire female population, just a specific type of girl of which our TC seems to be saddled with.

As a man, never bother over lost relationships or girls that dont want you. Always go to the next.

And if you find a girl you love and wanna keep, make sure she knows you do love her, but never give her the assurance that you'll always be there no matter what.

If you want more detailed advices on women/relationships PM me and I'll help as much as I can. :)

Get a nicer girl. Thats about it. If you find someone with a history of boyfriends and lots of cheating, you should try to avoid them not date them.

What?

Ziggy, I know you have to know girls who went out with guys even though all their friends thought that guy was a jackass or stupid. I never meant to give the impression that girls rather date someone who beats them and throws them into the kitchen. I just meant that even when to other people it looks like the dude is an ass, there is still a connection between the two that only the two of them know about or feel. And I think most girls will initally go out with someone who makes that connection over someone else, even if that someone else is a very nice and kind person. They may or may not regret the choice later. They might break up with the jerk and say "I should stop going out with jerks like him" and go out with a nice guy. But if there isn't any chemistry, they'll probably go back to their ex or anyone else who can provide that connection.

So I meant to say that it is the nice guy's fault for not making that connection and thinking that just because he is nice, kind, acts gentlemanly, and compliments her he will be able to earn her affection.

I don't know, it's seriously something I can't grasp with my mind.
Also, yes - when you mentioned having female friends who have done that, one particularly came to mind, but she had many other reasons for doing that.

She gets herself into bad relationships because she feels like she HAS to be in one to be worth anything, regardless of how she is treated. Her one ex boyfriend was like her parole officer and one time when she stayed the night at my house and I had to run some errands, her ex called my house 5 times leaving messages within a 3 hour time frame, each time more pissed off - he had her crying the whole night on the phone screaming at her because he didn't believe she wasn't doing something she wasn't supposed to do.

She always ends up in bad relationships, just because they're easy to get in a relationship with - and I think it's subconscious for her to pick shitty guys just to have something to complain about, something for attention and so forth. I've had a lot of talks with her about it, and she agrees what she does is wrong, but you can only lead a horse to water - she still acts the same way.

To me that's not healthy, if a girl wants in a relationship with a guy who isn't going to treat you nice all the time, or show you respect - why get in the relationship at all?

But my point earlier was the girl and the topic starter must of had something otherwise the relationship wouldn't have started. You and I both know how stupid girls can be, the ex probably just said something really nice to hook her in and 3 weeks later when he knows he has her reeled in, he'll revert back to however he used to be. Guys don't change, and they certainly play their manipulating cards the same way as females do.

I just think the reasons you listed and how you claim it's his fault without really knowing him or even the girl for the matter, and saying it's because he's too nice isn't very realistic, at least in my mind.

It's more realistic to say to just avoid relationships with females who recently came out of other relationships, because I'm sure you've felt like you wanted to cling to someone for a bit after a bad breakup or something awful happening in your life as well.

When a girl hasn't cut her strings with past relationships, she can find herself pulled by the ex a bit and end up confused, mislead, and so on. It's just better not to bother with a girl who still has those strings on.

^ Okay, and I just was stating why I think that even though you act every way you think you are supposed too and do everything you think possible to make someone happy, those strings will still pull strongly enough too lure her back in.

Of course it is best too just avoid being the rebound guy obviously. But still I think coming off as desperate by acting too nicely - regardless if the OP user did or not - just makes things even worst.

Lol girls want guys who break the rulEs and stuff, not someone who is nice cuz that implies the guy isnt independent. Also not being ugly helps.

I don't see the implication there.

What you're implying is an opinion; subjective, and not objective. If you wanted to date a girl, maybe if you looked past the movie cliches, you'd realize there are women who want good relationships with good men.

I want somebody who can treat me right, I don't want to babysit a child.

PROTIP: If you're only sweet and kind, the relationship wont work very well. You have to be a little mean, play practical jokes every now-and-then. Too nice is boring.

I think it's not about being "a little mean", but about keeping things fresh.

That is the greatest advice that can be given.

You know, I think what you need to find is just someone who really would be with you coz she wants what you have already and what you are; If youre a good person, look for one who does want and is happy with that. Not all women want an asshole adventurous fun to be with boyfriend who is useless in reality, some think those are the losers. There are those who wont think youre a loser and see you as a winner, some in my office and friends for one want such and tons more out there.

Dont lose hope. I think if you want something serious you should start looking at the serious qualities not just the superficial; You want love, then stop looking at stuff that matters to just fucking