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lol that was awesome Jonoe. :lol:

Loli is 2d and Pedo is 3d.... please notice it.... Its like comparing a piece of paper with a human.... People won`t be arrested because of burning a paper right??? So why it is the same as burning a human??? Than loli and pedo is different.... Like that 3d devil can actually match the attractiveness of the loli..... Hahahahaaha

Snap!

Also, the final sentence sounds like a character I've seen... somewhere...

when sumbody is not into heroine, would you call him an ignorant?...

Redundant questions are redundant.

Under that logic. I'm ignorant of suicide because I never killed myself. Please, try to be reasonable when arguing.

Let me first say I've only read the first page and last page so don't hurt me if what I say has already been said or something...

Though I hope you appreciate what I have to offer to this conversation.


Um, yes. *Points very clearly at quote* That post was the last one on the first page. It got me to thinking on some stuff.

As in, duh. Haha, I myself can control my urges, usually by using some loli anime/manga for the most part.

To help this topic along, I want to say some things about myself:
Oh, and also:


:thumbs up: :D Funniest thing I've read all night, I think...

Only think about it and use the Lolicon....

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......only.

(Thank Jacob for legal GFs! :D )

Well, i do appreciate honesty and a good sense of rationality. In the end, what matters is what you do, not what you think or prefer, and every man is responsible for what he does, and must pay the price set by society, for that is democracy.

Myself, well, I have always liked real women or characters that were around my age at the time, so i probably was a pedophile when i was 16 (God, that was a loooooong time ago), because i liked 14~16 year old girls. I never really got into older women, and i mean older even by a year, so no seniors for me, dunno why.

Actually, it was a crime (for about a month) in my country to have sexual relationships to girls younger than 18 if you were older than that, so tough luck to couples with 18 yrs BF and 17 yrs GF.

That's how it is in america, right? I mean, I've been told I am no longer aloud to have sex with girls under 18...
Because that is the law of america. Which is fine if it helps stop people from taking advantage of little girls, but still...

D: My girlfriend is seven months younger than me! SEVEN MONTHS! That means I had to wait SEVEN MONTHS to be (Legally) Involved with her...

Thank the gods Lelouch and Kira for the fact that that is over with...

That was actually when I found the good stuff...and this site! Dark times when I first appeared on this site...
Fakku was the light at the end of the tunnel. Or was it the torch guiding my steps until I reached the light, which turned out to be my now 18 year old GF?

i lol'd.... if you do suicide, you'll die.... dude... argghh...*facepalm*

Please, try to be reasonable when arguing.

I wasn't being literal, just comparing an obviously exaggerated example to your flawed logic. Your rebuttal actually caused me to lol at your incompetence by not realizing that.

Just be a man and admit that Otaku and Waar got you with their individual points.

If you had bothered to do any research you would have found out that historically "pedophile" comes from the greek word paidophilia (Ï€αιδοφιλία): pais (Ï€αις, "child") and philia (φιλία, "love, friendship"). Literally "To love a child" and under this definition anybody who loves a child is a pedophile, especially parents. Any person who looks at lolicon and refers to themselves as a pedophile is referring to this definition 99% of the time, a few odd balls prevent the number from being 100%

Current legal definitions come from the works of

In 1886 a Viennese psychiatrist known as Richard von Krafft-Ebing coined the phrase paedophilia erotica which was described as having

1). The sexual interest is toward prepubescent youths only (didn't include teenagers).

Richard Von Krafft-Ebing also categorized them in three groups

1) pedophile
2) surrogate (that is, the youth are regarded as a substitute object for a preferred, non-available adult object)
3) sadist

This is the root of the modern definition which shows up in the book "International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems" along with a revision of that books definition by The "APA's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders". These are futher categorized
here.

So to answer you question in the simplest matter. A pedophile (child molester) can look at lolicon (art) but, being a lolicon (Lolita complex) doesn't make you a pedophile.
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Hate to burst your bubble champ but, research in 1996 by the the US Government Accountability Office concluded, "the existence of a cycle of sexual abuse was not established." The reason for the "cycle of violence" theory was because the research was retrospective. Most studies since then have asked the abusers if they were themselves abused in their childhood, the number which turned out to be low thus debunking the CoV theory. While research done by James Cantor, Ray Blanchard and several of their colleagues, reported a series of findings linking pedophilia with brain structure and function. Details can be found here.

-_-.... ok, i think you missed my point... it meant, i am not into loli, and i dont understand what they feel inside... why are they aroused to child anime....
would call it an ignorance?

and that where my question came from... and until now you people are questioning my question instead of answering it.

and the research you did is quite helpful for me to understand.
and your answer is appreciated.

happy?

Simplest answer, Biology. Human brains are programmed at birth to find certain things attractive. Same reason why some guys prefer blonds over brunettes. While this is a vague explanation, trying to get detailed just makes it the whole thing murky and a case by case basis. Jacob has his reason for liking lolicon while I have my own reasons,etc,etc.

being held accountable for your actions has nothing to do with democracy...



... you being 16 and wanting someone else who is 16 isn't pedophilia... there's a 2 year grace period for people who are dating, an 18 year old can date a 17 year old without repercussions...


as for you J: I wasn't calling you ignorant or close minded because you didn't know about it, I was calling you that because you asked that question here, among people who widely consider themselves lolicons, before you decided to do any research. I'm gonna stop right here though because it seems like you wont be able to hold your ground against anything i have to say as illustrated by your heroine post. Good luck with the rest of your thread.

I don't know how it is in Canada, but most states allow a 3 year 'grace' period. Though they don't call it a grace. After 3 years becomes statutory rape.

Well, it is democracy . In a monarchy, the one who decides the price to pay are the top tier political people, not the whole society. In a lawless society, you don't have to pay anything for whatever you've done. Read carefully, my posts are full with traps!

lol, you're debating civics?

you should have specified that you were referring to law as opposed to "the price set by society" which is a pretty grand term that isn't specific in the least. That being said, laws have existed for a long time and were no less important when kings and queens created them, they were for the most part socially accepted. If you really want to get down and dirty with the details what you're actually talking about is a republic. The democracy the United States has is referred to as a representative democracy: a form of republic where the people have the power, but there have been many republics in the past that have been led by a monarch. The two forms of government that you are really referring to are the absolute monarchy, and the republic. If you wanted your point to be valid you should have used the proper name as the democracy you enjoy in the united states is simply a baby form of government that has really only existed for the past 200 years.

but to be honest, what I believe your statement was saying was "the price set by society" meant the social price, i.e. social outrage, and the possibility of being ostracized/shunned by your fellow man, all of which are a price pedos have to deal with then their actions come to light.

that being said, bringing up civics in a debate over what's right and whats wrong is entirely ridiculous, no one argued against the law nor the repercussions of breaking said law... stop pulling things out of left field. The traps that your posts are filled with are pitfalls that trap you into an argument with an idiot. Avoid laying them.

To be redundant I agree completely with theotaku, Jacob, Penguin, etc. Lolicons and others who enjoy lolis are not pedophiles unless they molest/rape a child.

When I first saw loli hentai I was fairly disgusted, especially since I was attracted to it, until I started thinking about it. From an evolutionary stand point once a girl has hit puberty they should be considered attractive by (post)pubescent males so that the human race can continue. (Anyone who knows more about this than I feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.) However, because of how society has changed from what is "needed" to "what should or shouldn't be done" it's now considered "wrong." And for the most part I agree, a 12 year old girl should nothave to have sex with a 40+ year old man. But is it wrong for young teens to have sex with each other even if they're a couple of years apart? I don't think so, provided it's not for social status or something like that, even though I think you should wait until you find someone that you feel more than sexual attraction for. *shrug*

As far as whether or not I'm attracted to real (3-D) girls that young? Depending on the girl, I am occasionally attracted to them, however it's not something I'd ever act on (especially since Kokonoe Rin isn't real haha). On the subject of Rin... I have to say it would be pretty damn hard to resist her (this is of course assuming that I'm taking the place of her teacher as far as that goes). Does that make me sick? Probably. (Un?)Fortunately for me real life is not anime.

I enjoy loli because I like small DFC girls, and there's the innocence factor as well. And how can you ignore the way they say "onii-chaaan?"

Eh, redundant post is redundant.