Rovencrone wrote...
The mayans simply didn't have the time to make their calendar go on for all eternity...
Eternity isn't exactly a matter of great importance, in the sense that its a long fucking time. However, there are inscriptions about October 21, 4772 and other dates beyond December 21, 2012. Logically, people are ignoring something important if they're saying 2012 is the end of the calendar. Its not implausible to think that the world will end at some point, in fact its rational. Its inevitable that the sun will consume Earth, unless its been destroyed already or we don't go completely insane and find a way to move the entire planet to a "safer location."
GameON wrote...
December 2012 is when the next solar storm hits the Earth (happens every 3 years). Scientists fear that this one could be the next "perfect" solar storm. The last perfect solar storm to hit the Earth was back in 1960 when it fried all of the telegraph lines.
A lot of shit is gonna happen in 2012, but nothing that could directly lead to the destruction of the planet or the destruction of all life. All it would do, if anything, is create a scenario where something could happen. We've been warned, so all we to do is not destroy the planet or eradicate all life on it.
Chlor wrote...
As for the mayan-theory part; This is bullshit too, but the mayan calendar does end. Year 2012 will be the end of the 13th Bakun time-period. And since mayan culture is mostly dead no one has been around to made/name a time-period to follow this one up. Thus the calendar does end, as it has done quite a few times in the past.
If there is an end to the Mayan calendar, the evidence hasn't been discovered yet. The fact that there are inscriptions that extend beyond the 13th b'ak'tun means that while the cycle may reset, the calendar continues. While everyone has been so obsessed with Dec. 21, 2012 being the beginning of a new b'ak'tun, they've either downplayed, or completely ignored the beginning of the current one. The date of the beginning of the b'ak'tun we're living in was either the 11th, 12th, or 13th of August, 3114 BCE. I can't be totally sure, but I doubt people woke up and said, "damn, the end of the world was pretty serious, but at least I got a good night's sleep."
People who are using the Mesoamerican long count to rationalize their doomsday theories completely disregard that beyond b'ak'tuns there are piktuns. There's also the issue that those who've done extensive research on the calendar aren't even sure whether the end of this b'ak'tun will reset the cycle or begin a 14th b'ak'tun.
KG989 wrote...
The Mayans didn't even accurately predict the end of their own civilization. Why the fuck would I take their word on it this time?
GreenZero wrote...
Mayan calander it's all just bullshit, they could predict the fucking world coming to an end but not that they were coming to an end.
I try to avoid being a dick as much as possible, but what you said is childish and ignorant. I'm not gonna pretend that I know everything about the Mayans, but whether or not they could predict such events in detail, I can say that its highly unlikely that they were caught completely off guard by the collapse of the civilization that they spent centuries developing. That's not even considering the fact that they were living there. Learning a little bit about the Mayans before you start talking out of your ass about them is worth considering, but you should at least use some fucking common sense.
Arbitor wrote...
The Mayan's calendar was said to end 2220 >.>
Unless it comes from the mouth of someone who has intimate knowledge of the Mayan calendar that can prove definitive archaeological evidence wrong, its bullshit to me. Hopefully, when people realize that 2220 is wrong too, they'll be able to admit their mistake as easily as they did when they thought the end was 2012. Of course, I'm only talking about some people, because others would much rather wait for the world to end than to admit they made a mistake.
I guess that's good enough for now. While some people are irritated that there is another 2012 discussion, I'm quite relieved. Its not like I've been on enough to actually take part in them and when I do get a chance they're in chaos. It feels good to be able to provide something.