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Lightning227 wrote...
How am I dumb? Because I'm not anti-american like you? The fact is that YOU are an asshole. Let's hear about the problems in your country so I can be anti German, Chinese, Mexican, or whatever country you live in.
The fact he's calling you dumb is because your making uneducated accusations in the Serious Discussions thread. He never called you out for being anti-American, he did so because you just brashly without making an argument, called him out on how bad his country without point out a problem and said it bluntly. Please don't make Americans look bad by blindly rushing in without thinking about how the argument is going to turn out.
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PersonDude wrote...
Lightning227 wrote...
How am I dumb? Because I'm not anti-american like you? The fact is that YOU are an asshole. Let's hear about the problems in your country so I can be anti German, Chinese, Mexican, or whatever country you live in.
The fact he's calling you dumb is because your making uneducated accusations in the Serious Discussions thread. He never called you out for being anti-American, he did so because you just brashly without making an argument, called him out on how bad his country without point out a problem and said it bluntly. Please don't make Americans look bad by blindly rushing in without thinking about how the argument is going to turn out.
Waar's Canadian. Also, if you ask me that's a good reason to call someone dumb. If you're going to argue make sure you know what you're talking about. However, Waar does come off as an asshole at times, and by reacting the way lightning did you're just egging him on.
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Lightning227 wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
Stop double posting. There's an edit feature, learn it and use it well.I didn't do that on purpose. I responded to the wrong person. Thanks for being a wise ass about it.
Reminding persons to be polite and being rude yourself does not give of the best of all impressions.
@PersonDude: Well, there are problems with corruption, but the main problem is that there is close to 0 proof except for the testimony of the one who tried to leave.
Anyways, back on topic: As I said before, I met many nice people from the states that are a pleasure to talk to :). I guess the problem is that changing your current system is somewhat of a Sisyphus task, which in the end is also caused by the lowered standards of schools etc. I sincerely hope that you'll be able to escape from that circle.
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omnicide wrote...
Waar's Canadian. Also, if you ask me that's a good reason to call someone dumb. If you're going to argue make sure you know what you're talking about. However, Waar does come off as an asshole at times, and by reacting the way lightning did you're just egging him on.
Wait are you talking to Lightning, Waar or me? Cuz I don't think I reacted like lightning did... >.>
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@Eranikum: Yes, it would be nice to break out of the circle, but it does seem like an impossible task seeing as how you need a majority. Some people are too afraid to start, too lazy to join or too afraid to join some have just given up on hope... that kind of sucks. The lower standards at least doesn't apply to college but I guess the majority of what you NEED to know is taught in the lower grades so that does suck...
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Lightning227
BANNED like the motherfucking north star.
Eranikum wrote...
mnx wrote...
ok,i seem to came out of nowhere,and i'm not american,but i feel the need to do something about american's negative image.let me tell you guys:AMERICANS ARE CONSISTING OF MOSTLY GOOD,ROCKING,BLUE-COLLAR PEOPLE WHO HAD THEIR COUNTRY'S NAME TAINTED BY THE ACTS OF THE TOP BRASS/FAMOUS PEOPLE AND TRAPPED IN A BAD SYSTEM(bad education system,bad insurance policy,bad waging policy,etc.)
THEY CONTRIBUTED A LOT TO THE WORLD.WITHOUT AMERICANS THERE WONT BE ANY LIGHTBULBS.OR PLANES.OR EVEN YOUR COUNTRIES(we'd be nazi german's lapdog had the american didn't join the ww2).
think.
As for part a) True enough, your right there. As for part b) I don't think that hit's the point. Truth to be told, it was just the way things developed. It is nothing to thank America for in general, but the inventions were done by the persons named. So much for generalization. As for WW II, yes, your country did do a good bunch of good things, but as before it is a "What if" thing. If you wouldn't name yourself "Americans" you would probably be British and still a colony by now :P
However PersonDude, seems like we missed each other somewhere along the path. I wasn't blaming the celebrities for scientology. I am blaming the law that a, let's call it "dubious" organization like that can work like it does. On that note: Celebrity or not, no person is warded against stupidity, so if they fall for it it is their own problem.
As for the general celebrity consensus: I think I wasn't trying to criticize you with what I said. I was trying to point out that due to the large amount of different cultures and mentalities it is only natural that your nation spreads way more "messages" and has a greater influence than others. It just so happens that due to the media, things often get across in a different way than it was meant to be.
Regarding German politics: The SPD and CDU story is a bit worn out by now. Yes, they are the two major parties, however the others have a large influence aswell. I for one rather vote for a "minor" party that is doing what it promised and that I find more agreeable with my own opinions, rather than a large party where my own opinion is met to only 15%. Also the balance in political power is currently shifting in Germany.
Nationality/Country of Origin where you live in can play a role at times. 2 examples I use at random would be China a communist country and America which is a democracy. A person who invents something in America may not necceasrly be able to do the same in China since communism keeps people from doing things that a person in America could normally do without thinking twice.
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@persondude: A little bit of both. I wasn't saying you reacted like lightning. I was saying when you react that way you're egging him on. It wasn't directed at anyone. I know about Waar's tendancy to seem like a dick from personal experience, but really he's not that bad. He just gets a kick out of pissing people off while maintaining his cool. That's all.
On Topic: The problem with corruption is the government has told so many lies they can't keep track of all of them. It's at the point now they're so corrupt they don't even try to hide it anymore. Since most of the proof is labeled "national security" so any efforts to expose anything gets you labeled a terrorist.
On Topic: The problem with corruption is the government has told so many lies they can't keep track of all of them. It's at the point now they're so corrupt they don't even try to hide it anymore. Since most of the proof is labeled "national security" so any efforts to expose anything gets you labeled a terrorist.
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Lightning227
BANNED like the motherfucking north star.
mnx wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
Though it seems even that freedom is starting to get fucked up slowly...freedom is always a good thing as long as you don't go overboard.
the celebrities are really the part of that freedom.
you're free to become whatever you want,no?
yes,what the celebs done is mostly wrong,but they're still ok,because it's partly the watchers fault to imitate their wrongdoings.....
....but what your government did is CATASTHROPE.
if they think they got the freedom to troll over others freedom(see the aftermath of iraq mission after saddam caught),they're wrong.
damn,i hate your current government. :evil:
but still,i love most of the people. :D
Finally, someone who isn't a asshole on this forum. Thank you Eranikum. I agree with you about America's Government hands down.
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Lightning227
BANNED like the motherfucking north star.
Lightning227 wrote...
mnx wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
Though it seems even that freedom is starting to get fucked up slowly...freedom is always a good thing as long as you don't go overboard.
the celebrities are really the part of that freedom.
you're free to become whatever you want,no?
yes,what the celebs done is mostly wrong,but they're still ok,because it's partly the watchers fault to imitate their wrongdoings.....
....but what your government did is CATASTHROPE.
if they think they got the freedom to troll over others freedom(see the aftermath of iraq mission after saddam caught),they're wrong.
damn,i hate your current government. :evil:
but still,i love most of the people. :D
Finally, someone who isn't a asshole on this forum. Thank you Eranikum. I agree with you about America's Government hands down.
Wait the comment above was meant for mnx not erakium.
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Lightning227
BANNED like the motherfucking north star.
Eranikum wrote...
Lightning227 wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
Stop double posting. There's an edit feature, learn it and use it well.I didn't do that on purpose. I responded to the wrong person. Thanks for being a wise ass about it.
Reminding persons to be polite and being rude yourself does not give of the best of all impressions.
@PersonDude: Well, there are problems with corruption, but the main problem is that there is close to 0 proof except for the testimony of the one who tried to leave.
Anyways, back on topic: As I said before, I met many nice people from the states that are a pleasure to talk to :). I guess the problem is that changing your current system is somewhat of a Sisyphus task, which in the end is also caused by the lowered standards of schools etc. I sincerely hope that you'll be able to escape from that circle.
That guy was being rude to me in the first place. As are you for jumping into the middle of our conversation.
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omnicide wrote...
@persondude: A little bit of both. I wasn't saying you reacted like lightning. I was saying when you react that way you're egging him on. It wasn't directed at anyone. I know about Waar's tendancy to seem like a dick from personal experience, but really he's not that bad. He just gets a kick out of pissing people off while maintaining his cool. That's all.On Topic: The problem with corruption is the government has told so many lies they can't keep track of all of them. It's at the point now they're so corrupt they don't even try to hide it anymore. Since most of the proof is labeled "national security" so any efforts to expose anything gets you labeled a terrorist.
Waar seems to keep it under wraps most of the times. I'm kind of like him in real life to my friends so... XD They just finally got used to it and found out they shouldn't take me seriously. I don't think that was egging him on. If anything I was encouraging him to post but make the posts count with words that will actually contribute rather than just lashing at someone for seamingly no reason.
I really don't think that is the case about the national security. If there were enough people, they would have to change, it's just that the American people want to do it, but the populus is so large it seems like a daunting task, and even if it did start up, it would be supressed quietly by the media and government.
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Lightning227
BANNED like the motherfucking north star.
PersonDude wrote...
Lightning227 wrote...
How am I dumb? Because I'm not anti-american like you? The fact is that YOU are an asshole. Let's hear about the problems in your country so I can be anti German, Chinese, Mexican, or whatever country you live in.
The fact he's calling you dumb is because your making uneducated accusations in the Serious Discussions thread. He never called you out for being anti-American, he did so because you just brashly without making an argument, called him out on how bad his country without point out a problem and said it bluntly. Please don't make Americans look bad by blindly rushing in without thinking about how the argument is going to turn out.
I'm not anti american because I am american. Why do you defend him? Arn't you American too? This guy is a coward. Let's hear where he lives since he finds it so enjoyable to put down america. His country better dam well be perfect.
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PersonDude wrote...
omnicide wrote...
@persondude: A little bit of both. I wasn't saying you reacted like lightning. I was saying when you react that way you're egging him on. It wasn't directed at anyone. I know about Waar's tendancy to seem like a dick from personal experience, but really he's not that bad. He just gets a kick out of pissing people off while maintaining his cool. That's all.On Topic: The problem with corruption is the government has told so many lies they can't keep track of all of them. It's at the point now they're so corrupt they don't even try to hide it anymore. Since most of the proof is labeled "national security" so any efforts to expose anything gets you labeled a terrorist.
Waar seems to keep it under wraps most of the times. I'm kind of like him in real life to my friends so... XD They just finally got used to it and found out they shouldn't take me seriously. I don't think that was egging him on. If anything I was encouraging him to post but make the posts count with words that will actually contribute rather than just lashing at someone for seamingly no reason.
I really don't think that is the case about the national security. If there were enough people, they would have to change, it's just that the American people want to do it, but the populus is so large it seems like a daunting task, and even if it did start up, it would be supressed quietly by the media and government.
Exactly the point I'm making. On both subjects.
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Lightning227
BANNED like the motherfucking north star.
omnicide wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
Lightning227 wrote...
How am I dumb? Because I'm not anti-american like you? The fact is that YOU are an asshole. Let's hear about the problems in your country so I can be anti German, Chinese, Mexican, or whatever country you live in.
The fact he's calling you dumb is because your making uneducated accusations in the Serious Discussions thread. He never called you out for being anti-American, he did so because you just brashly without making an argument, called him out on how bad his country without point out a problem and said it bluntly. Please don't make Americans look bad by blindly rushing in without thinking about how the argument is going to turn out.
Waar's Canadian. Also, if you ask me that's a good reason to call someone dumb. If you're going to argue make sure you know what you're talking about. However, Waar does come off as an asshole at times, and by reacting the way lightning did you're just egging him on.
If anyone is dumb, a ass, and just a strait forward loser it's Waar. To make ignorant accusations about a country just to piss people off sounds like that to me.
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Lightning227 wrote...
I'm not anti american because I am american. Why do you defend him? Arn't you American too? This guy is a coward. Let's hear where he lives since he finds it so enjoyable to put down america. His country better dam well be perfect.I wasn't defending him. I was just stating that the way you put it was blunt and attacking like that without a solid argument is as waar said, dumb. This is a serious discussion thread, you can make long posts that say what you feel that are serious and educated. He isn't a coward and he's mentioned he lives in Canada. With this I'm not calling you out, I'm just merly defending my earlier statement and I'm not saying Canada is perfect either.
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Lightning227 wrote...
omnicide wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
Lightning227 wrote...
How am I dumb? Because I'm not anti-american like you? The fact is that YOU are an asshole. Let's hear about the problems in your country so I can be anti German, Chinese, Mexican, or whatever country you live in.
The fact he's calling you dumb is because your making uneducated accusations in the Serious Discussions thread. He never called you out for being anti-American, he did so because you just brashly without making an argument, called him out on how bad his country without point out a problem and said it bluntly. Please don't make Americans look bad by blindly rushing in without thinking about how the argument is going to turn out.
Waar's Canadian. Also, if you ask me that's a good reason to call someone dumb. If you're going to argue make sure you know what you're talking about. However, Waar does come off as an asshole at times, and by reacting the way lightning did you're just egging him on.
If anyone is dumb, a ass, and just a strait forward loser it's Waar. To make ignorant accusations about a country just to piss people off sounds like that to me.
dude u need to stop ur sounding like a douche-bag
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biglw17 wrote...
Lightning227 wrote...
omnicide wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
Lightning227 wrote...
How am I dumb? Because I'm not anti-american like you? The fact is that YOU are an asshole. Let's hear about the problems in your country so I can be anti German, Chinese, Mexican, or whatever country you live in.
The fact he's calling you dumb is because your making uneducated accusations in the Serious Discussions thread. He never called you out for being anti-American, he did so because you just brashly without making an argument, called him out on how bad his country without point out a problem and said it bluntly. Please don't make Americans look bad by blindly rushing in without thinking about how the argument is going to turn out.
Waar's Canadian. Also, if you ask me that's a good reason to call someone dumb. If you're going to argue make sure you know what you're talking about. However, Waar does come off as an asshole at times, and by reacting the way lightning did you're just egging him on.
If anyone is dumb, a ass, and just a strait forward loser it's Waar. To make ignorant accusations about a country just to piss people off sounds like that to me.
dude u need to stop ur sounding like a douche-bag
Cut the guy a little slack. I suggest we just drop it and continue on with the topic at hand.
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Our education is so fucking stupid because of the fact that it's so hard to fire teachers that have tenure. They just keep the stupid teachers who just teach us directly from the text book and we don't get those passionate teachers who actually WANT us to learn something. School is just a chore now , and if they replaced the horrible teachers with better ones - It's likely that America would get better.
By the way, Lightning - Waar didn't say anything that horrible. Seriously, I read another post here that was way worse then Waar's post about Americans. He is entitled to his own opinion, just like you are. He might come off like an asshole, but he isn't. Plus his arguments aren't ignorant. Our education system sucks. That's why they put in effect the 'No Child left behind Act'.
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By the way, Lightning - Waar didn't say anything that horrible. Seriously, I read another post here that was way worse then Waar's post about Americans. He is entitled to his own opinion, just like you are. He might come off like an asshole, but he isn't. Plus his arguments aren't ignorant. Our education system sucks. That's why they put in effect the 'No Child left behind Act'.
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Rayne wrote...
Our education is so fucking stupid because of the fact that it's so hard to fire teachers that have tenure. They just keep the stupid teachers who just teach us directly from the text book and we don't get those passionate teachers who actually WANT us to learn something. School is just a chore now , and if they replaced the horrible teachers with better ones - It's likely that America would get better.By the way, Lightning - Waar didn't say anything that horrible. Seriously, I read another post here that was way worse then Waar's post about Americans. He is entitled to his own opinion, just like you are. He might come off like an asshole, but he isn't. Plus his arguments aren't ignorant. Our education system sucks. That's why they put in effect the 'No Child left behind Act'.
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which is doin very bad passing ppl who shouldent..
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Lightning227
BANNED like the motherfucking north star.
biglw17 wrote...
Lightning227 wrote...
omnicide wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
Lightning227 wrote...
How am I dumb? Because I'm not anti-american like you? The fact is that YOU are an asshole. Let's hear about the problems in your country so I can be anti German, Chinese, Mexican, or whatever country you live in.
The fact he's calling you dumb is because your making uneducated accusations in the Serious Discussions thread. He never called you out for being anti-American, he did so because you just brashly without making an argument, called him out on how bad his country without point out a problem and said it bluntly. Please don't make Americans look bad by blindly rushing in without thinking about how the argument is going to turn out.
Waar's Canadian. Also, if you ask me that's a good reason to call someone dumb. If you're going to argue make sure you know what you're talking about. However, Waar does come off as an asshole at times, and by reacting the way lightning did you're just egging him on.
If anyone is dumb, a ass, and just a strait forward loser it's Waar. To make ignorant accusations about a country just to piss people off sounds like that to me.
dude u need to stop ur sounding like a douche-bag
I'd say the real douchebag is the fag by the name of Waar who started all of this.
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Lightning227
BANNED like the motherfucking north star.
Rayne wrote...
Our education is so fucking stupid because of the fact that it's so hard to fire teachers that have tenure. They just keep the stupid teachers who just teach us directly from the text book and we don't get those passionate teachers who actually WANT us to learn something. School is just a chore now , and if they replaced the horrible teachers with better ones - It's likely that America would get better.By the way, Lightning - Waar didn't say anything that horrible. Seriously, I read another post here that was way worse then Waar's post about Americans. He is entitled to his own opinion, just like you are. He might come off like an asshole, but he isn't. Plus his arguments aren't ignorant. Our education system sucks. That's why they put in effect the 'No Child left behind Act'.
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Trust me, if you sound like a asshole and act like a asshole......your an asshole.