Do Women Really Want To Kill Men?
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I perfectly understand that these are a minority of radicals but... I'd never have ever thought before today that I'd see women(fuck it, mothers even !) talk about infanticide, or obstructing to their own children's nutrition, like it's a damn good thing (which could save the world even !). That's just sick. I mean, where the fuck do they see a difference between a baby boy and a baby girl ? All I see is a damn baby, or a kid, nothing else. They do not need to be involved in all the sick schemes - supposedly - grown people make in their sick heads. Why corrupt the only little bit of purity, of sanity there is still in this world ?
Thinking calmly about this, I say these people are either ignorant or have a few more loose screws in their heads than the average folk. I guess I'm still happy that those are only radicals and not mainstream. That does mean the average folk is sane to one point.
About a bunch of women laughing their asses off because one of them felt the urge to cut her ex-husband's dick off, well, that doesn't surprise me. I'm pretty sure something like that wouldn't be shown on TV in my country (France), but that doesn't mean no french woman would laugh at it. Humans, after all, are kind of all sick in their heads. I am, you are, we are, that's what I think. Add to that the atmosphere of a TV show, give them the power to talk about it like it's nothing, they'll laugh. It's not like they'd all suddenly go and do it. They may well become more likely to, but it was more of an anger-triggered act. Laughing about it gives them power, and they like it. This is not about women, humans are like that, period. It might be horrid just to think about it but well, just protect your jewels.
This all happens because they are not alone. As long as more than one person has one sick idea, it will bloom into this kind of thing. It might even start up as a joke, but when people start taking things seriously, they make things big.
Thinking calmly about this, I say these people are either ignorant or have a few more loose screws in their heads than the average folk. I guess I'm still happy that those are only radicals and not mainstream. That does mean the average folk is sane to one point.
About a bunch of women laughing their asses off because one of them felt the urge to cut her ex-husband's dick off, well, that doesn't surprise me. I'm pretty sure something like that wouldn't be shown on TV in my country (France), but that doesn't mean no french woman would laugh at it. Humans, after all, are kind of all sick in their heads. I am, you are, we are, that's what I think. Add to that the atmosphere of a TV show, give them the power to talk about it like it's nothing, they'll laugh. It's not like they'd all suddenly go and do it. They may well become more likely to, but it was more of an anger-triggered act. Laughing about it gives them power, and they like it. This is not about women, humans are like that, period. It might be horrid just to think about it but well, just protect your jewels.
This all happens because they are not alone. As long as more than one person has one sick idea, it will bloom into this kind of thing. It might even start up as a joke, but when people start taking things seriously, they make things big.
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Radicals of any sort are crazy people. There is a patriarchy STILL!It's just not as extreme anymore. For the most part some women just over exaggerate some things. Equal is supposed to be equal unless you're a radical.
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That kind of feminists are just crazy, and as already pointed out, not really a big portion of women out there. The anti-pornography ones for instance talk about pornography as if women didn't like sex at all, as if it was torture or something, and as if it is made for the purpose of satisfying men only (because no woman ever sees porn, right?). Here's a quote from one of the leaders of those "feminists":
I like to call that kind of "feminist" anti-feminists myself. Makes much more sense, and you can differentiate actual feminists from them that way.
Not all feminists are radical. There are plenty of rational feminists who just want equal rights for women and don't wants to cut penises off. Also, by making such blanket statements about feminism and women you are doing the same thing as radfem. Judging a majority by the actions of a few
Because there are feminists on both sides, those who the main post is talking about, and those who disagree with them, but a big portion of the feminist movement have been created around these nutjobs as Robin Morgan above and many others. The "good feminists" are actually much of the women themselves, the most level headed of the movement. Most of the founders however are just castrators. Thinking about that, Freud's "Penis Envy" concept fits perfectly on them.
I don't think OP is generalizing, though, he only said there are a group of women that think like that, not every feminist or every woman, and is asking what others think.
Robin Morgan wrote...
Pornography is the theory, and rape is the practice.I like to call that kind of "feminist" anti-feminists myself. Makes much more sense, and you can differentiate actual feminists from them that way.
Black Jesus JC wrote...
KageMinowara wrote...
Its this Radical Feminist website and the people on it are going on and on about creating a new female world orderNot all feminists are radical. There are plenty of rational feminists who just want equal rights for women and don't wants to cut penises off. Also, by making such blanket statements about feminism and women you are doing the same thing as radfem. Judging a majority by the actions of a few
Because there are feminists on both sides, those who the main post is talking about, and those who disagree with them, but a big portion of the feminist movement have been created around these nutjobs as Robin Morgan above and many others. The "good feminists" are actually much of the women themselves, the most level headed of the movement. Most of the founders however are just castrators. Thinking about that, Freud's "Penis Envy" concept fits perfectly on them.
I don't think OP is generalizing, though, he only said there are a group of women that think like that, not every feminist or every woman, and is asking what others think.
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Unfortunately there is no cure for stupidity, so until we get the go ahead to sterilize the people with an IQ low enough to accept the double standards and idiotic ideals, it's just something we'll have to live with. There are people of both sexes that are equally stupid, and will vouch that the other deserves this or that, and frankly, it's useless horse shit. Nothing's going to be done about it by talking about it. Unless some guy or girl who has actually been through "X" situation kills a good 300 people of the opposite sex, no one's going to give a serious thought to anything like this.
It's sad but true. People just want to live their lives, day by day, and for some reason they weren't beaten enough as children and watch this crap on television and believe it to be entertainment. It's where society is at the moment. It'll change in a few years, but until that point, it really is, just a problem the few in the back seats really listen to.
On the note of 'are there actually many women that believe this', yes, yes there are. Thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands. Eventually one woman will become the next Hitler, and we'll have WWIII and all that fun stuff. Earth has passed the Seven Billion mark, so I guess it's about time fore another world war to attempt to clean the filth that has gathered in the gutters. The only problem is, that for every 10 retards that are killed, 12-17 highly intelligent and valuable men and women die because of idiots that are too stupid to think for themselves, or just don't have the ability to deal with that which is life.
My opinion is, people who start shit like this, need to be euthanized. We are a people of equal rights and wrongs. We are all born capable of good and evil, and no one is better or worse because of skin color, gender, hair color, religion, or any other external stimuli. Each individual is to be held responsible for his or her actions. In the case where a group of people have been convinced to follow in something like this, then they need to be tested, categorized and labeled for the danger they pose, then promptly sterilized to prevent the continuation of their genetic line.
On the above, sterilization, I am both for and against this, because two retards can, potentially, create someone of high value that can be beautiful and intelligent, however, the chances of that are so remote, I personally vouch for sterilization.
It's sad but true. People just want to live their lives, day by day, and for some reason they weren't beaten enough as children and watch this crap on television and believe it to be entertainment. It's where society is at the moment. It'll change in a few years, but until that point, it really is, just a problem the few in the back seats really listen to.
On the note of 'are there actually many women that believe this', yes, yes there are. Thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands. Eventually one woman will become the next Hitler, and we'll have WWIII and all that fun stuff. Earth has passed the Seven Billion mark, so I guess it's about time fore another world war to attempt to clean the filth that has gathered in the gutters. The only problem is, that for every 10 retards that are killed, 12-17 highly intelligent and valuable men and women die because of idiots that are too stupid to think for themselves, or just don't have the ability to deal with that which is life.
My opinion is, people who start shit like this, need to be euthanized. We are a people of equal rights and wrongs. We are all born capable of good and evil, and no one is better or worse because of skin color, gender, hair color, religion, or any other external stimuli. Each individual is to be held responsible for his or her actions. In the case where a group of people have been convinced to follow in something like this, then they need to be tested, categorized and labeled for the danger they pose, then promptly sterilized to prevent the continuation of their genetic line.
On the above, sterilization, I am both for and against this, because two retards can, potentially, create someone of high value that can be beautiful and intelligent, however, the chances of that are so remote, I personally vouch for sterilization.
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I don't hate men, I don't hate women. I'm pro-everybody. I believe that status should be given based upon merit, and I believe that everyone should be given an equal chance to excel in life and achieve the goals that they have, whatever they might be. I think that by having fair grounds to start life on, neither men nor women can blame the success of failure of themselves or others upon their gender or race or whatever. Just get rid of their excuses, and the whiny bitches (men and women) will no longer be able to condemn society for their problems in life.
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Haha, the transgender thing made me laugh because I understand where it comes from. Guys make terrifyingly hot women. I'd be scared too.
But in all seriousness, you can't take a position this aggressive and have friends in this day and age. A majority of women aren't actively looking towards being passive/aggressive psychopaths. Most people can compartmentalize well enough to see that bad personalities, financial success or basic entitlement aren't synonymous with having a dick.
But in all seriousness, you can't take a position this aggressive and have friends in this day and age. A majority of women aren't actively looking towards being passive/aggressive psychopaths. Most people can compartmentalize well enough to see that bad personalities, financial success or basic entitlement aren't synonymous with having a dick.
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It is common knowledge that human society is erected on patriachal ideology. While women are held in high regard, history has proven that men have been the most driving force (not to sound sexist or anything). However, if men are the force, then women are the source. No man could exist without a woman. To quote Arthur Schopenhauer:
"Without women, our lives would be without meaning. Our beginning devoid of care, the middle devoid of pleasure and the end devoid of comfort."
Unfortunately, there are many cultures that consider women to be no more than property to be traded or barted, and to a point I can understand the rantings of radical feminists. Men do have a better chance at life simply because they are men. I don't condone however the unprecedented growth of hatred towards men by some women. It's true that experiences shape us, but a single one shouldn't define the rest of your life. I have come across some very nasty women who made it very clear that I was not trustworthy simply because I was born male. Thankfully I've never met one that wanted to kill me due to it (at least as far as I know).
I think that resentment can breed extreme jealousy and eventually misguided hatred. This type of thinking can be very volatile and dangerous. I wish people would listen and consider before taking the words of ranters too seriously.
"Without women, our lives would be without meaning. Our beginning devoid of care, the middle devoid of pleasure and the end devoid of comfort."
Unfortunately, there are many cultures that consider women to be no more than property to be traded or barted, and to a point I can understand the rantings of radical feminists. Men do have a better chance at life simply because they are men. I don't condone however the unprecedented growth of hatred towards men by some women. It's true that experiences shape us, but a single one shouldn't define the rest of your life. I have come across some very nasty women who made it very clear that I was not trustworthy simply because I was born male. Thankfully I've never met one that wanted to kill me due to it (at least as far as I know).
I think that resentment can breed extreme jealousy and eventually misguided hatred. This type of thinking can be very volatile and dangerous. I wish people would listen and consider before taking the words of ranters too seriously.
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Kutharos
Not a dentist
I think we need to bring into context not as to whether women were oppressed or not, but see why women were restricted in such roles, and how women were allowed into.
Just by genetics, men are stronger, faster, and have more stamina then the average women. Also account that women are the only ones who can actually produce children, and thus the value of a women's life is outweighed over a man's life. How so?
In history, we see most soldiers to be men. They fought and died for whatever cause, they did so because sending a woman, who is capable of producing children, would be just downright stupid. If we give an example of two groups of 11 people, one with 10 men and one women & 10 women with one man, which group is going to produce more kids?
Women back in the day were seen to be protected from the elements, other tribes/nations, mother nature etc, and let's not forget how deadly birthing a kid was back in the day, you may not even have a kid from a women.
So is it anyone's surprise that women were restricted to what they would do with their lives by society? No. Yet as we progress in the fields of medicine, government, protection and clear numbers, such thinking is out of date. Men do not have to risk their lives for their country while women stay home. Women can indeed go to the front line and die for their country, and they have in the last few wars we have been in.
Yet even so, every man in the US is forced into a Selective Service. We may not think about it, but if WWIII goes down, every person with a dick is likely to be enlisted and die for the country.
What does this all add up to? Men and Women have had two different roles to serve. These roles have pros and cons. We must also admit that these pros and cons are separate from both roles. Men have greater freedom to do what they wish, but they are expected to sacrifice their life if need be. Women have less freedom, but are given protection, benefits and assistance. I speak for at least western cultures.
Women have been oppressed, and that needs to change. This fact does equate to males having the longer end of the stick. If all of us wish for sexual equality, we must admit that both sides have been put into roles that are no longer needed.
This is pretty much why I am an anti-feminist. Feminism, by its nature, focuses on female rights, it does not focus on male rights nor equality. You can call yourself an Equalist, a sexual rights activist, but being a feminist means you are exclusive to issues with women only.
Feminism is not going to ask why:
Teen boys have a higher risk of suicide than girls.
Divorce rates are more likely initiated by women and the most popular reason from women is because they were not 'fulfilled' with the union.
The definition of Rape in court. FBI defines rape as forceful penetration sex. Women are unable to rape by this standard and hence we get numbers of high rape rates with women. Women have a term called 'forced erection' which is not defined as rape, but as 'other sexual acts'.
Family Courts are a woman's playground. Women by default have rights to their children, and the court will usually favor women over men, even if the woman has a history of mental, drug, abusive history.
These are just some of the issues that feminist are not and will never raise as a common issue. MRM is doing this job, and no one pays attention to them.
Just by genetics, men are stronger, faster, and have more stamina then the average women. Also account that women are the only ones who can actually produce children, and thus the value of a women's life is outweighed over a man's life. How so?
In history, we see most soldiers to be men. They fought and died for whatever cause, they did so because sending a woman, who is capable of producing children, would be just downright stupid. If we give an example of two groups of 11 people, one with 10 men and one women & 10 women with one man, which group is going to produce more kids?
Women back in the day were seen to be protected from the elements, other tribes/nations, mother nature etc, and let's not forget how deadly birthing a kid was back in the day, you may not even have a kid from a women.
So is it anyone's surprise that women were restricted to what they would do with their lives by society? No. Yet as we progress in the fields of medicine, government, protection and clear numbers, such thinking is out of date. Men do not have to risk their lives for their country while women stay home. Women can indeed go to the front line and die for their country, and they have in the last few wars we have been in.
Yet even so, every man in the US is forced into a Selective Service. We may not think about it, but if WWIII goes down, every person with a dick is likely to be enlisted and die for the country.
What does this all add up to? Men and Women have had two different roles to serve. These roles have pros and cons. We must also admit that these pros and cons are separate from both roles. Men have greater freedom to do what they wish, but they are expected to sacrifice their life if need be. Women have less freedom, but are given protection, benefits and assistance. I speak for at least western cultures.
Women have been oppressed, and that needs to change. This fact does equate to males having the longer end of the stick. If all of us wish for sexual equality, we must admit that both sides have been put into roles that are no longer needed.
This is pretty much why I am an anti-feminist. Feminism, by its nature, focuses on female rights, it does not focus on male rights nor equality. You can call yourself an Equalist, a sexual rights activist, but being a feminist means you are exclusive to issues with women only.
Feminism is not going to ask why:
Teen boys have a higher risk of suicide than girls.
Divorce rates are more likely initiated by women and the most popular reason from women is because they were not 'fulfilled' with the union.
The definition of Rape in court. FBI defines rape as forceful penetration sex. Women are unable to rape by this standard and hence we get numbers of high rape rates with women. Women have a term called 'forced erection' which is not defined as rape, but as 'other sexual acts'.
Family Courts are a woman's playground. Women by default have rights to their children, and the court will usually favor women over men, even if the woman has a history of mental, drug, abusive history.
These are just some of the issues that feminist are not and will never raise as a common issue. MRM is doing this job, and no one pays attention to them.
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What dudes (and hell, uninformed ladies) need to realize is: MOST feminists ARE NOT radicals.
Believing so is akin to thinking all Muslim people support terrorist sects. It's misrepresentation of a very varied group of people due to the actions of a more visible, outlying minority among them.
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It's akin to saying people who think PoC should get the same rights as "white" persons are really just out to hate white people.
Those being oppressed don't necessarily want to kill (much less harm) the population that has oppressed them. They just want to be treated like any other person, without being controlled by laws or ideals meant to oppress/harm/malign them.
Also, this thread's topic name is pretty messed up. It's going off the assumption that, to begin with, women somehow want to kill men (hence the use of the qualifier "REALLY" in the question). Which makes zero sense.
Believing so is akin to thinking all Muslim people support terrorist sects. It's misrepresentation of a very varied group of people due to the actions of a more visible, outlying minority among them.
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It's akin to saying people who think PoC should get the same rights as "white" persons are really just out to hate white people.
Those being oppressed don't necessarily want to kill (much less harm) the population that has oppressed them. They just want to be treated like any other person, without being controlled by laws or ideals meant to oppress/harm/malign them.
Also, this thread's topic name is pretty messed up. It's going off the assumption that, to begin with, women somehow want to kill men (hence the use of the qualifier "REALLY" in the question). Which makes zero sense.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
gizgal wrote...
What dudes (and hell, uninformed ladies) need to realize is: MOST feminists ARE NOT radicals.Believing so is akin to thinking all Muslim people support terrorist sects. It's misrepresentation of a very varied group of people due to the actions of a more visible, outlying minority among them.
I don't think this is a fair analogy since as a religion, you can pull out a variety of quotes from the Quran like this one,
Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah" which would more than likely bring uncomfortableness in the room, leaving a sense of conflict(sometimes) with other parts of the Quran and it's "followers".
If someone claiming to be a feminist says something, considered "radical" it's easier to dismiss them as loonies/radicals/whatever.
Although out of curiosity, what do you think deviates from the "normal" feminist?
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As a raven begets its own, so does hatred.
These -- "radical" thoughts have always been in women (and men) since time immemorial. They have just sat in the darkness of people's hearts, festering and being passed down from parent to child. It intensifies with age, just like alcohol. People refuse to see the fact that they make their own traps, tortures and deaths. We believe if we don't see it, it'll go away. It's pitiful really.
Maybe it's because Christians blame the weakness of Eve for listening to the serpent; I really don't know nor care. You would condemn all females for the weakness of one and make them care the sin and burden of one because your- sorry, going a bit too Doctor. I'm just saying, blame is on all sides and we should just stop and think; we should use our brilliant minds to come up with a compromise like we- oh that's a bad example. Part of me is just thinking "Screw everyone and take all the newborns away from everyone and build a new civilization from them and-" oh I'm doing it again.
People whine and complain and despair and moan, question is: why don't you do anything about it you ninnies? We are brilliant human being with a great power, our mind. "Oh we're oppressed!" "Oh no one ever gives us a chance!" "Oh what's the point!" "Oh why try when we'll fail?!" Listen to yourselves! Great and brilliant people make a difference because they have one thing that sets them apart: conviction!! Stop trying to prove everyone's notions and preconceptions and break, shatter and obliviate them! Sure it'll take a while before everyone cones to an agreement, but it's worth it in the end. And usually, big world projects like this because there are challenges: people set in their ways, people who want to keep their power, people who make money off this stuff; you have your work cut out for you. But are you going to let it intimidate you? … I deviated didn't I?
These -- "radical" thoughts have always been in women (and men) since time immemorial. They have just sat in the darkness of people's hearts, festering and being passed down from parent to child. It intensifies with age, just like alcohol. People refuse to see the fact that they make their own traps, tortures and deaths. We believe if we don't see it, it'll go away. It's pitiful really.
Maybe it's because Christians blame the weakness of Eve for listening to the serpent; I really don't know nor care. You would condemn all females for the weakness of one and make them care the sin and burden of one because your- sorry, going a bit too Doctor. I'm just saying, blame is on all sides and we should just stop and think; we should use our brilliant minds to come up with a compromise like we- oh that's a bad example. Part of me is just thinking "Screw everyone and take all the newborns away from everyone and build a new civilization from them and-" oh I'm doing it again.
People whine and complain and despair and moan, question is: why don't you do anything about it you ninnies? We are brilliant human being with a great power, our mind. "Oh we're oppressed!" "Oh no one ever gives us a chance!" "Oh what's the point!" "Oh why try when we'll fail?!" Listen to yourselves! Great and brilliant people make a difference because they have one thing that sets them apart: conviction!! Stop trying to prove everyone's notions and preconceptions and break, shatter and obliviate them! Sure it'll take a while before everyone cones to an agreement, but it's worth it in the end. And usually, big world projects like this because there are challenges: people set in their ways, people who want to keep their power, people who make money off this stuff; you have your work cut out for you. But are you going to let it intimidate you? … I deviated didn't I?
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cruz737 wrote...
gizgal wrote...
What dudes (and hell, uninformed ladies) need to realize is: MOST feminists ARE NOT radicals.Believing so is akin to thinking all Muslim people support terrorist sects. It's misrepresentation of a very varied group of people due to the actions of a more visible, outlying minority among them.
I don't think this is a fair analogy since as a religion, you can pull out a variety of quotes from the Quran like this one,
Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah" which would more than likely bring uncomfortableness in the room, leaving a sense of conflict(sometimes) with other parts of the Quran and it's "followers".
If someone claiming to be a feminist says something, considered "radical" it's easier to dismiss them as loonies/radicals/whatever.
Although out of curiosity, what do you think deviates from the "normal" feminist?
Normal, mainstream feminism these days constitutes the basic desire by anyone to have women's value equal to men's. Equal rights, pay, treatment, and respect.
"Feminism is the radical notion that women are people".
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
That's an extreme simplification that entails thousands of issues.
Over time I learned that Feminism and Egalitarianism aren't the same thing.
Over time I learned that Feminism and Egalitarianism aren't the same thing.
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As it regards Feminism, I'd have to say that I believe females to deserve all of the inherit rights that belong to any Human Being. However, it should be made clear that some "rights", are better left unhad. There was one female soldier, serving in Afghanistan(The Camp David incident), how can anyone not look at that woman and not think "deprived"? Deprived of her humanity, deprived of her elegance and beauty. To me, if that were my wife or my daughter, I'd feel sick to my stomach.
I don't want an America where women are deprived of their beauty, made to be sex slaves or made to be ginny pigs to the army. Similarly, I don't want an America where the right to give child birth(once held sacred by the Feminine), is now seen as disposable.
Rather than career advancement, and equality of the sexes, Feminism has destroyed the feminine. And I refuse to allow it, I love women to much to see them degenerate into something very far from feminine.
I don't want an America where women are deprived of their beauty, made to be sex slaves or made to be ginny pigs to the army. Similarly, I don't want an America where the right to give child birth(once held sacred by the Feminine), is now seen as disposable.
Rather than career advancement, and equality of the sexes, Feminism has destroyed the feminine. And I refuse to allow it, I love women to much to see them degenerate into something very far from feminine.
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LustfulAngel wrote...
As it regards Feminism, I'd have to say that I believe females to deserve all of the inherit rights that belong to any Human Being. However, it should be made clear that some "rights", are better left unhad. There was one female soldier, serving in Afghanistan(The Camp David incident), how can anyone not look at that woman and not think "deprived"? Deprived of her humanity, deprived of her elegance and beauty. To me, if that were my wife or my daughter, I'd feel sick to my stomach. I don't want an America where women are deprived of their beauty, made to be sex slaves or made to be ginny pigs to the army. Similarly, I don't want an America where the right to give child birth(once held sacred by the Feminine), is now seen as disposable.
Rather than career advancement, and equality of the sexes, Feminism has destroyed the feminine. And I refuse to allow it, I love women to much to see them degenerate into something very far from feminine.
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Beauty is something that's up to the individual to control. If someone doesn't like being feminine, they don't need to be.
There are plenty of feminine feminists. Feminism doesn't mean depriving anyone of the right to look the way THEY want to appear: it simply says, "you don't need to dress to impress anyone but yourself".
You can't "refuse to allow" someone to look how they want, for their own sake. Not yours.
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gizgal wrote...
LustfulAngel wrote...
As it regards Feminism, I'd have to say that I believe females to deserve all of the inherit rights that belong to any Human Being. However, it should be made clear that some "rights", are better left unhad. There was one female soldier, serving in Afghanistan(The Camp David incident), how can anyone not look at that woman and not think "deprived"? Deprived of her humanity, deprived of her elegance and beauty. To me, if that were my wife or my daughter, I'd feel sick to my stomach. I don't want an America where women are deprived of their beauty, made to be sex slaves or made to be ginny pigs to the army. Similarly, I don't want an America where the right to give child birth(once held sacred by the Feminine), is now seen as disposable.
Rather than career advancement, and equality of the sexes, Feminism has destroyed the feminine. And I refuse to allow it, I love women to much to see them degenerate into something very far from feminine.
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Beauty is something that's up to the individual to control. If someone doesn't like being feminine, they don't need to be.
There are plenty of feminine feminists. Feminism doesn't mean depriving anyone of the right to look the way THEY want to appear: it simply says, "you don't need to dress to impress anyone but yourself".
You can't "refuse to allow" someone to look how they want, for their own sake. Not yours.
Women already have a preconception to what beauty is and have been told what is beautiful by their mothers, sister, friends, and the one the are infatuated/in love with. It's a preset conception you have to break. What I precieve as beautiful is a wide, and honest to Gallifrey, completely lunatic. I'd tell them all, but then I'd tear a hole in the fabric of reality because I would have summed it up.
People don't exactly know what they want because they hobest to Gallifrey never had all the options right in front of them. People only had those 'options' because those were the ones previous exposed to them. Suddenly they have tons more shoved in their faces with the whole world screaming in their faces what is accepted, what isn't, what's going to happen if they don't pick this, what will happen if the pick that. You people overwhelm others who just suddenly pop up and you don't give them the chance to gather themselves and because of that they become what you wanted them to be. People argue that they wouldn't know what they want. Yeah, because you're not giving them time to think enough about what they want.
The problem is though, a human can't live alone without any human contact being exposed to it, or it dies! We're people of gathering, of protection. We seek out others so we aren't alone. And people follow others mindlessly because they are afraid of being abandoned and thrown away. That's why people will cling onto something irrational, because it's all they've ever known and they don't want to be exposed to the unknown.
Stop avoiding the subject and dancing around it. It's a serious problem! You are fighting over so many things and binding them together under one big word called "Problem" and address all of them as one, never breaking all the little itty bits apart and trying understand all the little details to see the the big picture. Now maybe I'm too optimistic, but is it a little bit too much to sit down and look at all the details? Hmmm?
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Jackpot_King-777 wrote...
gizgal wrote...
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Beauty is something that's up to the individual to control. If someone doesn't like being feminine, they don't need to be.
There are plenty of feminine feminists. Feminism doesn't mean depriving anyone of the right to look the way THEY want to appear: it simply says, "you don't need to dress to impress anyone but yourself".
You can't "refuse to allow" someone to look how they want, for their own sake. Not yours.
Women already have a preconception to what beauty is and have been told what is beautiful by their mothers, sister, friends, and the one the are infatuated/in love with. It's a preset conception you have to break. What I precieve as beautiful is a wide, and honest to Gallifrey, completely lunatic. I'd tell them all, but then I'd tear a hole in the fabric of reality because I would have summed it up.
People don't exactly know what they want because they hobest to Gallifrey never had all the options right in front of them. People only had those 'options' because those were the ones previous exposed to them. Suddenly they have tons more shoved in their faces with the whole world screaming in their faces what is accepted, what isn't, what's going to happen if they don't pick this, what will happen if the pick that. You people overwhelm others who just suddenly pop up and you don't give them the chance to gather themselves and because of that they become what you wanted them to be. People argue that they wouldn't know what they want. Yeah, because you're not giving them time to think enough about what they want.
The problem is though, a human can't live alone without any human contact being exposed to it, or it dies! We're people of gathering, of protection. We seek out others so we aren't alone. And people follow others mindlessly because they are afraid of being abandoned and thrown away. That's why people will cling onto something irrational, because it's all they've ever known and they don't want to be exposed to the unknown.
Stop avoiding the subject and dancing around it. It's a serious problem! You are fighting over so many things and binding them together under one big word called "Problem" and address all of them as one, never breaking all the little itty bits apart and trying understand all the little details to see the the big picture. Now maybe I'm too optimistic, but is it a little bit too much to sit down and look at all the details? Hmmm?
...I don't even get what you're saying here.
That it's impossible to fix standards of beauty? Yeah sure, but that's not what I was even talking about...
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Ugh. I rambled on. And I know what you were talking about, but my mind tends to connects things a bit too much and it's annoying. I know.
Yes, I see what you meant by what you said, LustfulAngel is just as bad as feminists because she is trying to tell other women what beauty is. I'm not harping on you LustfulAngel, but people have free will, that means men and women. They have a choice of what they want to be. I just rambled on about how people have ideas shoved don't their throats and can't pick their own without a headache.
Was that better gizgal-sama? I'm kinda new at voicing my thoughts. As my previous post shows you, I tend to ramble.
Yes, I see what you meant by what you said, LustfulAngel is just as bad as feminists because she is trying to tell other women what beauty is. I'm not harping on you LustfulAngel, but people have free will, that means men and women. They have a choice of what they want to be. I just rambled on about how people have ideas shoved don't their throats and can't pick their own without a headache.
Was that better gizgal-sama? I'm kinda new at voicing my thoughts. As my previous post shows you, I tend to ramble.
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Jackpot_King-777 wrote...
Ugh. I rambled on. And I know what you were talking about, but my mind tends to connects things a bit too much and it's annoying. I know.Yes, I see what you meant by what you said, LustfulAngel is just as bad as feminists because she is trying to tell other women what beauty is. I'm not harping on you LustfulAngel, but people have free will, that means men and women. They have a choice of what they want to be. I just rambled on about how people have ideas shoved don't their throats and can't pick their own without a headache.
Was that better gizgal-sama? I'm kinda new at voicing my thoughts. As my previous post shows you, I tend to ramble.
Firstly, I'm a male. That should've been clear enough when I said "If that were my wife or daughter"(but then, with same-sex marriage and as I read recently, even now it's possible for artificial birth for children of same said relationships I can see how that wasn't proof.)
Secondly, you're right in that people can "choose" their own beauty, but I really want you to envision the beauty of a female prostitute, or the beauty of a female going into the front lines, or the beauty of a female giving up her motherhood(and also, by that same definition defiling the right of the child to live), in the name of the artificial, and frankly disgusting "idea" of beauty or equality called feminism.
If I'm so clear as to show you how the feminine has been destroyed, do you remember no less than a decade ago? The Barbie series was out in mass production, and so invoked the imagination of a young girl. Now, return to this decade and tell me if you so much as see a commercial for a toy that invokes anything similar?
There's no equality to be had in the defile of the sacred feminine, just so that they can "feel" equal to men. And gee, just how equal indeed....Relationships and marriages are at an all-time worst, women are choosing "bad boys" that frankly don't and shouldn't fit them at all.
Don't you see that these young women are headed for destruction? You'd think that they themselves would be able to see the foolhardiness of the kind of "feminism" they've invoked, but as you've said: Many ideas(feminism) are being thrown at them and now, just as Eve was tempted to eat the Apple, females are tempted to feel as though they're getting "closer."
If females want to get "closer" to Manhood, they should start by realizing they're in fact socially superior in many ways to Man. We call it the Sacred Feminine, but do we even invoke the words 'sacred' as it regards to Manhood? We do not, and for good reason. The feminine is that which nurtures and gives birth, it's that which raises children into fine adults. And the feminine, at one point took great pride in her ability to nurture life.
Now, with the advent of feminism where exactly has that pride gone? Look at the young women in America today, and tell me where the feminine exists? I'm more than willing to be Authoritian if it means protecting that which is valuable to the feminine, that which is valuable to the female.
Because it's my duty and our duties as Men. A female's beauty is most sacred, and no, throwing away her life or the life of her newborns or her own sacred sexual beauty in the name of "It's my body", is not beauty. It's discrimination against the female!
Today, the female faces more discrimination than ever before, she discriminates against herself by denying her innate nature and her innate talents, gift and beauty. And what's even more insane than that fact, is that we cannot acknowledge this discrimination and that many 'feminists' in fact want it.
I'm not going to bare my daughter in this world, I refuse to allow her to have her sacred beauty defiled, where she'll look at these other sluts and ask what is the "social norm". I refuse to bare her in a world, where as she grows up she's told that it's okay to kill a child in the name of her own "right". She deserves much better than that, and I intend to give it to her.