[Locked] Good Grammar and Spelling
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Honestly, the level of dyslexia on this forum is startling. I am here to educate those of you who truly need it. Many of you want to be taken seriously, and the first step towards that is being understood. Now, let the lesson begin.
1. Correct Spelling
Spelling is very important. If you can't spell a word correctly, people are not going to be able to understand you, and that doesn't help when you are asking a question. Now, I play a lot of MMORPGs, and when people come up to me with questions, they always say plz. I suppose they say plz because it is shorter than please. I say no because it is shorter than yes. Once you get used to typing, it won't matter how long the word is. If you can type fast, all you have to worry about is spelling, punctuation, and good grammar.
2. Punctuation
Punctuation can make all the difference in typing. Many people refuse to use periods when they type out paragraphs. This not only creates a massive run-on sentence, but it makes you look retarded as well. Also, separate items in a list with commas.
i.e. I need to get eggs, milk, and butter.
If your list contains separate sections with commas in them, use semicolons.
i.e. I need to go to the mall to get clothes, shoes, and a new tie; go pick up lunch for Jacob, Nikon, and Azumax; and find the download links for episodes 5, 6, and 7.
3. Grammar
When speaking, (or typing for that matter) it is important to follow the basic rules of grammar. This includes making sure that when referring to yourself and another as a group, it looks like this:
i.e. Minsc and I developed the guidelines of Fakkumon.
Also, make sure that you use the proper forms of the various articles. Articles are the words the, a, and an. You use a when the next word in the sentence starts with a vowel sound. Not necessarily a vowel, as y is occasionally considered a vowel, and words like yacht don't start with a vowel sound. Example:
i.e. Don't forget to find a decent seat.
i.e. I ate an apple for a snack.
The forms of the can be confusing for ESLs. ESL stands for English as a Second Language, and is my term for anyone attempting to learn to speak English as, well, their second language. The forms of the are the, those, that, they, and them. The is used when talking about a noun. Those is used when talking about multiple nouns. That can be used in place of the most of the time, but is generally used when trying to give direction to a sentence. They is used when telling about a group of people. It is not to be used in the same sentence that you actually list the people in. Them is also used when talking about a group of people, but used at the end of an action, rather than at the beginning. Examples:
i.e. The car was impounded.
i.e. Those apples belong to Nikon.
i.e. That car is horribly slow.
i.e. They were unable to locate the Main Screen.
i.e. The auto-turrets began to fire at them.
Another important part of grammar is being able to tell when to use then, and when to use than. Then is used when talking about time. Than is used when comparing two things. Examples:
i.e. We have to go to the store first, but then we can go to the bank.
i.e. This pencil is much more dense than that pen.
MORE TO COME
1. Correct Spelling
Spelling is very important. If you can't spell a word correctly, people are not going to be able to understand you, and that doesn't help when you are asking a question. Now, I play a lot of MMORPGs, and when people come up to me with questions, they always say plz. I suppose they say plz because it is shorter than please. I say no because it is shorter than yes. Once you get used to typing, it won't matter how long the word is. If you can type fast, all you have to worry about is spelling, punctuation, and good grammar.
2. Punctuation
Punctuation can make all the difference in typing. Many people refuse to use periods when they type out paragraphs. This not only creates a massive run-on sentence, but it makes you look retarded as well. Also, separate items in a list with commas.
i.e. I need to get eggs, milk, and butter.
If your list contains separate sections with commas in them, use semicolons.
i.e. I need to go to the mall to get clothes, shoes, and a new tie; go pick up lunch for Jacob, Nikon, and Azumax; and find the download links for episodes 5, 6, and 7.
3. Grammar
When speaking, (or typing for that matter) it is important to follow the basic rules of grammar. This includes making sure that when referring to yourself and another as a group, it looks like this:
i.e. Minsc and I developed the guidelines of Fakkumon.
Also, make sure that you use the proper forms of the various articles. Articles are the words the, a, and an. You use a when the next word in the sentence starts with a vowel sound. Not necessarily a vowel, as y is occasionally considered a vowel, and words like yacht don't start with a vowel sound. Example:
i.e. Don't forget to find a decent seat.
i.e. I ate an apple for a snack.
The forms of the can be confusing for ESLs. ESL stands for English as a Second Language, and is my term for anyone attempting to learn to speak English as, well, their second language. The forms of the are the, those, that, they, and them. The is used when talking about a noun. Those is used when talking about multiple nouns. That can be used in place of the most of the time, but is generally used when trying to give direction to a sentence. They is used when telling about a group of people. It is not to be used in the same sentence that you actually list the people in. Them is also used when talking about a group of people, but used at the end of an action, rather than at the beginning. Examples:
i.e. The car was impounded.
i.e. Those apples belong to Nikon.
i.e. That car is horribly slow.
i.e. They were unable to locate the Main Screen.
i.e. The auto-turrets began to fire at them.
Another important part of grammar is being able to tell when to use then, and when to use than. Then is used when talking about time. Than is used when comparing two things. Examples:
i.e. We have to go to the store first, but then we can go to the bank.
i.e. This pencil is much more dense than that pen.
MORE TO COME
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You call yourself the Grammar Nazi, I see the title is well deserved (I also recall calling you something to that effect before the server was back up, and forgive me but I'm currently subscribing to the belief that you adopted that title because of me.)
However, I do agree with you, using proper English goes a long way toward separating yourself from the normal internet population, and make you seem more intelligent than you probably are (this reply could be called a case toward my argument) Admit it "Why are you such an infantile jackass?" reads a lot better than "WHY U 50 5TUP1D"
Also, spelling and grammar shouldn't be that hard if you use a web browser that has spell check
However, I do agree with you, using proper English goes a long way toward separating yourself from the normal internet population, and make you seem more intelligent than you probably are (this reply could be called a case toward my argument) Admit it "Why are you such an infantile jackass?" reads a lot better than "WHY U 50 5TUP1D"
Also, spelling and grammar shouldn't be that hard if you use a web browser that has spell check
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well i'm asian, so don't expect me to be as perfect as you but i do try my best to keep up with you guys :roll:
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Lesson one ; Smiley's aren't periods. :P
( i know this sentence is flawed but meh point reached XP.)
( i know this sentence is flawed but meh point reached XP.)
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UPDATE:
Generic Internet Rules:
1. Do not shorten words. That means do not turn please into plz.
2. Do not misspell words on purpose in a serious sentence. I will occasionally say Nao or moar, but that is for comedic purposes only.
3. Caps Lock is not cruise control for cool. Do not type in all caps, it makes you look like an uneducated barbarian. Again, this only applies to serious conversations. I do enjoy my "ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT!?"
MORE COMING SOON TO A TOPIC NEAR YOU!
Generic Internet Rules:
1. Do not shorten words. That means do not turn please into plz.
2. Do not misspell words on purpose in a serious sentence. I will occasionally say Nao or moar, but that is for comedic purposes only.
3. Caps Lock is not cruise control for cool. Do not type in all caps, it makes you look like an uneducated barbarian. Again, this only applies to serious conversations. I do enjoy my "ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT!?"
MORE COMING SOON TO A TOPIC NEAR YOU!
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o my god. you really didn't make this post lol. the grammar lord has given his decree. everyone must have good spelling or else!
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Noutakun wrote...
3. Caps Lock is not cruise control for cool.Actually Caps Lock is a lot like cruise control. It's just that people who try and use it a lot forget that when using cruise control you still need to steer. :wink:
EDIT: I do agree though that, in general, it's not cool.
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however putting something in Caps is a good way of adding emphasis to something you're saying. For example: "STOP FUCKING POSTING THAT" has a lot more impact than, "stop fucking posting that".
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lickwidfoxxx wrote...
Everyone in this post is an omega nerd. Including me...If you're going to post in a thread about good grammar, make sure you use said grammar yourself. :)
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Aust wrote...
lickwidfoxxx wrote...
Everyone in this post is an omega nerd. Including me...If you're going to post in a thread about good grammar, make sure you use said grammar yourself. :)
+10 Win points.
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Well I understand the point of using proper grammar and all in real life, but whats the point of using it in gaming or web forums? (The pls,plz,plx thing though...I just say "Fuck off noob." Please is a word you should never shorten for it loses its value if you do.) The main point in both worlds is just to have a little fun before we go back to our real-boring-lives(though some are lucky and don't have to work or go to school...sigh). But to some it is important in ever situation to have great "something", so I wont talk down upon it. But some people are too lazy(me when I'm tired as hell) to use proper grammar, or even to look at misspelled words. Now that should be fixed. If you 70% of the time can type/write/speak properly then it should be ok for the other 30% to just be lazy. But if you are lazy 70+% of the time.............Then you need to change that.
Ok...im shuting up now O_oo
Ok...im shuting up now O_oo
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well said. i do like to have good grammar, but sometimes on the web you just want to be quick, and just get your point across fast.
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lickwidfoxxx wrote...
well said. i do like to have good grammar, but sometimes on the web you just want to be quick, and just get your point across fast.yup, who cares about long winded conversations that are typed up in about 2 minutes, when you can shorten some words and make it done in less than 30secs?
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Bakalova wrote...
lickwidfoxxx wrote...
well said. i do like to have good grammar, but sometimes on the web you just want to be quick, and just get your point across fast.yup, who cares about long winded conversations that are typed up in about 2 minutes, when you can shorten some words and make it done in less than 30secs?
You... I would advise that you make it a point to avoid me.
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lol ^_^...naa i just might clean up my typin alil bit...starting nxt post...
Hmmm...might as well start........Now:
Ok then, if you could please explain to me why I should "make it a point to avoid" you? Though I rather prefer proper grammar in most things in life, it would seem that the internet/gaming community has turned into fools by lack of it. Now, why should people not be free to express themselves the way they want to? Whether it be in real life or online. Like I said, I prefer proper grammar myself, but if someone else wants to look like a moron...So be it! Let them make themselves look stupid while others do it their way and look better. So plainly, people have their own ways of doing things; and you should not be as forceful as you are being. By saying "You should make it a point to avoid me.", it seems like you are threating me. And I believe that is uncalled for. Expeshally when its about something so small as this.
Hmmm...might as well start........Now:
Ok then, if you could please explain to me why I should "make it a point to avoid" you? Though I rather prefer proper grammar in most things in life, it would seem that the internet/gaming community has turned into fools by lack of it. Now, why should people not be free to express themselves the way they want to? Whether it be in real life or online. Like I said, I prefer proper grammar myself, but if someone else wants to look like a moron...So be it! Let them make themselves look stupid while others do it their way and look better. So plainly, people have their own ways of doing things; and you should not be as forceful as you are being. By saying "You should make it a point to avoid me.", it seems like you are threating me. And I believe that is uncalled for. Expeshally when its about something so small as this.
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Bakalova wrote...
By saying "You should make it a point to avoid me.", it seems like you are threating me. And I believe that is uncalled for. Expeshally when its about something so small as this.I'm crazy! The ending of the 15th volume of Negima! has left me mentally unstable.