Harvard Scientists REVERSE aging
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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Alzheimers/aging-reversed-mice/story?id=12269125
Gambler, I'm pretty damn sure this shit is SERIOUS. No moving.
Scientists apparently were able to reverse the aging in mice. The mice literally grew YOUNGER. This is an enormous break-through in medical science. The ridiculous part is that they found it accidentally. It seems that many of the medical knowledge were discovered by chance.
Now, what do you think about the new discovery? i can see that this might CHANGE the world. But, like all things, there are issues. It will probably create problems, such as over population. DISCUSS
Gambler, I'm pretty damn sure this shit is SERIOUS. No moving.
Scientists apparently were able to reverse the aging in mice. The mice literally grew YOUNGER. This is an enormous break-through in medical science. The ridiculous part is that they found it accidentally. It seems that many of the medical knowledge were discovered by chance.
Now, what do you think about the new discovery? i can see that this might CHANGE the world. But, like all things, there are issues. It will probably create problems, such as over population. DISCUSS
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The world's overpopulated already. This discovery could very easily lead to disaster lest they immediately impose strict government sanctions upon it.
What on earth would they use it for, anyway?
What possible, practical use could this have, save prolonging the lives of what is simply too many people?
If the gene doesn't discriminate against species, perhaps we could reboot plants, algae, and several specimens from endangered species.
But Lord & Satan forbid the day we see this become commercially available.
What on earth would they use it for, anyway?
What possible, practical use could this have, save prolonging the lives of what is simply too many people?
If the gene doesn't discriminate against species, perhaps we could reboot plants, algae, and several specimens from endangered species.
But Lord & Satan forbid the day we see this become commercially available.
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I agree completely. The world is over populated as it is now and yet the rate is getting higher every year. India, China, U.S..... if this actually becomes available to the public, it would lead to disastrous consequences. Food shortage is one.
But what I'm more concerned about is the fact that even if this becomes commercially available, it will be expensive as hell. the only people who has access to such is the rich. I think this will widen the gap between the rich and the regular even more. It will cause much hatred
But what I'm more concerned about is the fact that even if this becomes commercially available, it will be expensive as hell. the only people who has access to such is the rich. I think this will widen the gap between the rich and the regular even more. It will cause much hatred
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There are many other factors that determine aging besides telomere shortening, but if this is able to become controllable for humans, it could very well mean a dramatic increase in life span, or even the end of aging.
But it's not actually the fountain of youth, per se, as the other factors involved in aging hasn't stopped. Things like arterial clogging and compiling tissue damage will still shorten lifespans, as well as things like cancer and diseases.
So for true indefinite lifespan to be reached, we'll also need to catch up on nanoscale medicine, stem cell manipulation, and cancer prevention/cure.
But it's not actually the fountain of youth, per se, as the other factors involved in aging hasn't stopped. Things like arterial clogging and compiling tissue damage will still shorten lifespans, as well as things like cancer and diseases.
So for true indefinite lifespan to be reached, we'll also need to catch up on nanoscale medicine, stem cell manipulation, and cancer prevention/cure.
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Oh wow, thats pretty interesting. Although this is a break through in the scientific field, it definitely can lead to some serious problems if the average human can get their hands on it.
I wonder how far the reverse aging progression goes...
I mean, does it stop at a certain point or does it just keep going until...I dunno. Seems like the mice reverse aging stopped somewhere when they reached the middle ages again.
It would be risky to deal with something like this and be unsure about the possible years worth of reverse aging contained in it. Ninety year old man turns into an eight year old kid. Course it is years away for this to even be tested on a human.
I wonder how far the reverse aging progression goes...
I mean, does it stop at a certain point or does it just keep going until...I dunno. Seems like the mice reverse aging stopped somewhere when they reached the middle ages again.
It would be risky to deal with something like this and be unsure about the possible years worth of reverse aging contained in it. Ninety year old man turns into an eight year old kid. Course it is years away for this to even be tested on a human.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
It seems right now that they are aiming for helping with those one advanced aging diseases people occasionally get.
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Reminds me of a Travel Channel special where they took 7 tribal men from a Pacific Island and brought them to America.
During their stay in Beverly Hills, they were getting anti-aging treatments, where they asked one of them:
"Oh, how would you like to look 10 years longer?"
His response:
"I'd rather live 10 years longer."
Wisdom, yep.
During their stay in Beverly Hills, they were getting anti-aging treatments, where they asked one of them:
"Oh, how would you like to look 10 years longer?"
His response:
"I'd rather live 10 years longer."
Wisdom, yep.
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x-gen wrote...
There are many other factors that determine aging besides telomere shortening, but if this is able to become controllable for humans, it could very well mean a dramatic increase in life span, or even the end of aging.But it's not actually the fountain of youth, per se, as the other factors involved in aging hasn't stopped. Things like arterial clogging and compiling tissue damage will still shorten lifespans, as well as things like cancer and diseases.
So for true indefinite lifespan to be reached, we'll also need to catch up on nanoscale medicine, stem cell manipulation, and cancer prevention/cure.
I agree; this breakthrough, amazing though it may be, is not an absolute solution to aging in humans. Any uses to be found for humans in it wont be developed for a very long time as well. It's great and everything, but I wouldn't get my hopes up for immortality based on it.
I had heard about some other research being done recently that sounds pretty similar to this, having to do with extending telomeres to try and repair certain causes of blindness. It would seem that there is a promising future in it.
I really don't think they should have said, "reversed aging." It's not actually what they are doing. It's repairing and impeding damage associated with aging, which while sounding like the same thing, isn't. So it's leading people to get the wrong idea about what this could actually do.
Besides, until we can cure cancer, everyone will eventually die. The world is carcinogenic.
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Wouldnt this technically mean that someone will eventually find a way to speed up aging?
dear god.
dear god.
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Leh wrote...
Wouldnt this technically mean that someone will eventually find a way to speed up aging?dear god.
The next weapon of choice for assassins. Delayed time-effect super-aging rounds. Tag your target then super-age them to death when they're sleeping.
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Hmm... Want to bet we'll not hear about this at all in a year or so? That's how all these scientific breakthroughs seem... something amazing happens, and then you never hear about it again...
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Only thing I can really think to say is I'd rather a more realistic approach to living be taken. Something along the lines of improving the quality of life in relation to age.
You often see science fiction epics about humans being able to easily survive over a hundred or more years, as if so certain that will become a common sight some few generations down the line. Sounds fine and all, but if the quality of life doesn't improve than who wants to live in their hundreds feeling as though they might croak at any given moment.
Reverse aging implies a possibility of endless life, which sounds terrifying to be honest. Yes, most of us have a great fear of dying, but living forever is a pretty scary thought, too. Just try to imagine it for a moment. You'd live to see such horrible things happening throughout the course of history. You'd constantly see everyone around you perish. I'd hate to become attached to anyone because you'll just see everyone you love die again and again.
You often see science fiction epics about humans being able to easily survive over a hundred or more years, as if so certain that will become a common sight some few generations down the line. Sounds fine and all, but if the quality of life doesn't improve than who wants to live in their hundreds feeling as though they might croak at any given moment.
Reverse aging implies a possibility of endless life, which sounds terrifying to be honest. Yes, most of us have a great fear of dying, but living forever is a pretty scary thought, too. Just try to imagine it for a moment. You'd live to see such horrible things happening throughout the course of history. You'd constantly see everyone around you perish. I'd hate to become attached to anyone because you'll just see everyone you love die again and again.
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Voice of reason: "This could have disastrous consequences..."
Neko-chan: "I don't care! I DON'T WANT TO DIE!!!"
Seriously, it can at least make sure that people don't live their golden years as hobbled cripples waking up every morning in pain. We might be living to 75, but are those last years of good quality?
Neko-chan: "I don't care! I DON'T WANT TO DIE!!!"
Seriously, it can at least make sure that people don't live their golden years as hobbled cripples waking up every morning in pain. We might be living to 75, but are those last years of good quality?
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Kind of pointless if you ask me (... I'm new to the forums, who would ask me anyway? )
It's just a sad step trying to advance into science/technology.
They might have some sad excuse like curing a disease barely anyone ever gets or trying to increase human lifespan but in the end they are just wasting a lot of money on poor results, Ofcourse it's hard to come up with this stuff but for the amount of money put into these kind of projects and the final efficiency of the ''product'' this is rather poor.
I mean I think there's 11 people on this earth now with that aging disease, I'm sorry but instead of spending millions on this project how about send a few liters tap water to the middle east and save 1000 times that amount of people?
And then there's the lifespan increase which I'm not even going to get into, earth would get overcrowded etc.
These kind of things make me facepalm, we think we are getting way ahead in technology but in the end no one will gain anything out of it, basically like the search for life on other planets, even if we do find organisms, I highly doubt it will be a superadvanced alien race, it might be a bunch of mutated dinosaurs or pigs.
In the end incredible amounts of money will get wasted on it and what do we get out of it? t-rex mounts, i mean nothing!
It's just a sad step trying to advance into science/technology.
They might have some sad excuse like curing a disease barely anyone ever gets or trying to increase human lifespan but in the end they are just wasting a lot of money on poor results, Ofcourse it's hard to come up with this stuff but for the amount of money put into these kind of projects and the final efficiency of the ''product'' this is rather poor.
I mean I think there's 11 people on this earth now with that aging disease, I'm sorry but instead of spending millions on this project how about send a few liters tap water to the middle east and save 1000 times that amount of people?
And then there's the lifespan increase which I'm not even going to get into, earth would get overcrowded etc.
These kind of things make me facepalm, we think we are getting way ahead in technology but in the end no one will gain anything out of it, basically like the search for life on other planets, even if we do find organisms, I highly doubt it will be a superadvanced alien race, it might be a bunch of mutated dinosaurs or pigs.
In the end incredible amounts of money will get wasted on it and what do we get out of it? t-rex mounts, i mean nothing!
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Apparently xuni has never heard of the Methuselah foundation.
Neither has xuni noticed that there are people who would want to keep spending their money far beyond normal limits of human age haha! Thus a breakthrough result, even small, to keep old geezers interested in their work to keep the money flowing for inevitable human testing.
And then there are people, like me, who are interested in Methuselah formula for longer life, obviously for personal gains and interests that do not interest the human race as a whole. haha!
In another case, I wonder if it would be possible to reverse diseases and sicknesses brought in old age. Imagine reversing your age to the effect you don't have that particular disease anymore. Though its a thought, and it probably won't work, I'd definitely like to see a kid with senility. HAHA!
BTW: Why kill by super aging when you can turn them into a fetus again?
Neither has xuni noticed that there are people who would want to keep spending their money far beyond normal limits of human age haha! Thus a breakthrough result, even small, to keep old geezers interested in their work to keep the money flowing for inevitable human testing.
And then there are people, like me, who are interested in Methuselah formula for longer life, obviously for personal gains and interests that do not interest the human race as a whole. haha!
In another case, I wonder if it would be possible to reverse diseases and sicknesses brought in old age. Imagine reversing your age to the effect you don't have that particular disease anymore. Though its a thought, and it probably won't work, I'd definitely like to see a kid with senility. HAHA!
BTW: Why kill by super aging when you can turn them into a fetus again?
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Lots of things work on mice.
Making them work on bigger things is where the trouble starts. Also, where ethics and law kick in (example: we clone sheep, not humans).
Making them work on bigger things is where the trouble starts. Also, where ethics and law kick in (example: we clone sheep, not humans).
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So it WAS the telomeres...but this could prove disastrous. We already have enough problems with overpopulation, this discovery could end up bringing the world down
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neko-chan wrote...
Voice of reason: "This could have disastrous consequences..." Neko-chan: "I don't care! I DON'T WANT TO DIE!!!"
Seriously, it can at least make sure that people don't live their golden years as hobbled cripples waking up every morning in pain. We might be living to 75, but are those last years of good quality?
"It's not the years in your life that count, but the life in your years".
No way in holy hell am I gonna let myself rot for the last 20 years of my life. If I've had my run, I'm going skydiving and then ditching the chute.
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oohhh! honor harrington style prolong eh? id have to say tuck that away AT LEAST until we colonize the moon or mars, this place is to damn crowded
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shinji_ikari
Mustn't Run Away...
This won't see the light of day until they can make it into a very lucrative procedure(i.e. shortly after you stop doing it you die)..like aids ,and cancer treatments =_=...