ecchigaijin wrote...
There's a link somewhere, and the information is available on the Internet. If you want to find it, though, put through the effort. I don't care to, this is your spare time. I won't ask you to make links for the "facts" you stated, either.
As for the "couple percent", depending on the coupling you're speaking of, the "couple percent" could be up to 50%. That's a whole lot of couple. There is a LOT higher chance of an incestual relationship producing an unhealthy and or mentally inhibited child. As I said, I'd be all for allowing those relationships if there was a way of making sure if the children needed support above the "average", given the fact the parents knew of the increased likelihood of their children having these problems, that the parents foot the bill. There is no way for that to happen.
It's not the raising of taxes I'm protesting, it's what the taxes are used FOR. I have no problems if my taxes are put towards improving roads, paying to keep fire engines and ambulances running, or other things that make the country better. I do have an issue with my taxes going towards paying for a child that has a significantly higher chance of being unhealthy and/or mentally disabled AND THE PARENTS KNEW DAMNED WELL. If two siblings want to have a kid and foot all the bill, or better yet, pay for their own clipping and cutting to make sure they CAN'T have kids, fine. Unfortunately, if that were enforced it would be "being unfair", so we have to settle for it being illegal altogether.
Do you think mandatory self-paid sterilizations or mandatory paying of "above average" childrens' health care is worse than going to jail for having the relationship? Even though my personal opinion will never be used to make laws in a country, I think what I'm offering lends a hand to those who want that type of relationship and those who don't want to pay for inbred children with their tax money. Best of both worlds.
I don't understand how you can't see the contradictions in your argument.
You think 1 in 10 people who drink won't go driving afterwards? I believe most would. i.e. I think more than 5 out of 10 would go driving after having a drink.
Are you aware that taking just one standard drink impairs your reaction time and alertness?
I have studied pathophysiology. Smoking, alcohol, bad diet, a sedentary lifestyle. These ridiculously common things have
horrible effects on your body, probably worse than you realise (almost definitely, if you haven't studied this). And when they require care, it's government subsidised.
Perhaps 1 in 10 who take a drink and drive won't get into an accident, but let's not look at percentages anymore. It's not as relevant as the actual number.
The amount of people who engage in the former debilitating health factors is
far more than the number of people who would engage in incest if it were legalised. How many incestuous couple do you think there would be? 100? 1000? 10000?
In fact, you're already assuming that more people would commit incest if it were legalised. Why assume that legalising it would increase the amount of people who start feeling attracted to their immediate family?
The Westermarck Effect won't suddenly vanish thank to our artificial laws. People won't suddenly be oblivious to every potential mate outside of their household.
Now that you've considered the amount of people who would engage in incest compared to the amount that smoke or drink or eat fatty foods or even remain seated in their waking life (yes, this is bad) hours a day, consider this:
How many of that former fraction would choose to have children knowing the possible side-effects? How many of that fraction of children would be born with a defect? How many of the fraction born with a defect would require the government to help in some way with costs?
And how many couples would choose to adopt instead, if they felt the need to care for children together?
Less than the number of people we have to care for thanks to their smoking habit.
You can't pick and choose and remain logically consistent. You have to go all or nothing. You don't want something as it's a causal factor of disease? You must advocate the removal of all the unnecessary ones.
I don't agree with incest. I just can't bear the contradictions in your logic.
Another couple of questions:
Do you want couples with recessive diseases such as cystic fibrosis to be sterlised?
If a fetus is found to have Downs Syndrome, do you want enforced abortion?
How about sickle-celled anaemia? It's an interesting one, you should look it up, it's effects depending on whether it's heterozygous or homozygous and especially it's relation to malaria.
In reply to OP, I feel the need to point out that those countries don't punish you for having sex, but they also do not allow you to marry incestuously. Seems illogical but I guess it's their way of showing their disapproval.