Life on another planet?
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I believe that there is life on other planets as we are (Earth) a little speck in the galaxy so why not? and there are probably other planets but are trillion light years+ away. The question is that have there been any real hard evidence of landings/sightings or anything, or is it all a conspiracy? If there was, the Army probably hid from the public to prevent mass hysteria. When I say real I don't mean those shows on Sc-Fi called 'alien sightings' and stuff.
This can lead to scientific or religious discussion or what ever but I don't mind as long as I got my opinion down.
This can lead to scientific or religious discussion or what ever but I don't mind as long as I got my opinion down.
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Nikon
FAKKU Old Guard
There is no hard evidence, but I'm certain there's some form of intelligent life out there.
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People that think life doesn't exist anywhere else in the universe are retards. Not to say that I think little green/grey (aliens are always called little green men but the archetypal big headed alien is always grey for some reason) men pick up people out of cornfields every other week but the idea that humans are the only truly intelligent life in the universe is rather sad and terribly illogical. We have a pretty accurate idea of how huge the universe is and though we may not contact anything superior or equal to us in our lifetimes I sincerely believe that we will eventually.
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Why is it that whenever people think of other intelligent life forms in the universe like humans, They always assume they are so much more advanced than us?(other than the fact that we've "seen" UFOs and the such) It's always been a burning question in the back of my mind whenever i see discussions about other life forms in the universe.
My view on the whole thing is that there are indeed other intelligent Life forms in the universe, but i really don't think they are any better off than we are currently in the sense of reaching us. I mean, if they were any bit as curious about us as we are them, what would be the point of picking random people up and sticking thing's up their ass' for so many years if they had the ability to just come meet us from the start? I know we humans wouldn't be doing that, we'd be down there learning more a lot quicker.
Then again, they might have done it already and the government pulled a MIB on us... no wonder they made the movies, now if anyone tries saying that's what the government is doing, everyone will just laugh at them for watching to many movies =P
My view on the whole thing is that there are indeed other intelligent Life forms in the universe, but i really don't think they are any better off than we are currently in the sense of reaching us. I mean, if they were any bit as curious about us as we are them, what would be the point of picking random people up and sticking thing's up their ass' for so many years if they had the ability to just come meet us from the start? I know we humans wouldn't be doing that, we'd be down there learning more a lot quicker.
Then again, they might have done it already and the government pulled a MIB on us... no wonder they made the movies, now if anyone tries saying that's what the government is doing, everyone will just laugh at them for watching to many movies =P
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David wrote...
Hope we'll have contact of other intelligent life forms before I die loldude...i feel the same way :cry:
thats why i hate the fact that i was born in this era :x
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i would assume there is life on other planets. whether or not any of it is "intellegent", who knows, its all relative. the part i do doubt is that aliens have come here, that seems kinda silly to me. i think that life on other planets would be pretty dependent on whatever type of enviroment its from, so there probably wouldnt be much to be gained from coming here
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gizmo wrote...
David wrote...
Hope we'll have contact of other intelligent life forms before I die loldude...i feel the same way :cry:
that's why i hate the fact that i was born in this era :x
Yeah man I feel so excited but the chances of meeting contacting intelligent life forms in this era is slim boo.
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...depends on how you define "life"
if it's something that is born, consumes, grows, reproduces and dies, then we have one shining above our heads and makes the sky blue during the day and red at dawn and evening
...i was supposed to write some more but i'm just confusing myself and start to get philosophical
...gee, aren't we bored?
to actually find some time to be thinking of stuff like
"I wonder if there were really little green men out there"
and
"I wonder how it would be like for me to see a real alien?"
if it's something that is born, consumes, grows, reproduces and dies, then we have one shining above our heads and makes the sky blue during the day and red at dawn and evening
...i was supposed to write some more but i'm just confusing myself and start to get philosophical
...gee, aren't we bored?
to actually find some time to be thinking of stuff like
"I wonder if there were really little green men out there"
and
"I wonder how it would be like for me to see a real alien?"
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Well, the circumstances of our existence here on earth, not just as intelligent humans, but as living things, period, is quite complicated. Earth just happened to be the perfect distance from the Sun, able to maintain an atmosphere, etc.
Not to say that it's impossible for other life-bearing planets to exist, mind you, but the chances are probably a little on the low-side, unforunately.
I wonder when we will find life on other planets, much less "intelligent" life, and if we'd ever be able to communicate with them. The current laws of physics (ahaha, as if they'll change) kinda forbid practical communication with other star systems, since even at the speed of light, it'd take years for any sort of correspondence to occur. But /shrug, who knows. Maybe we'll be able to utilize wormholes and such someday and use them, if they turn out to indeed be useable.
Speaking of which, you know that little package that NASA sent out some years back that in an attempt to contact alien life? You know, with the music, the "map" to Earth, a drawing of a man and a woman, and all that? Even IF alien lifeforms come across that or if it's even still in existence, what with everything that happens in the cosmos, would it even help?
Take, for example, crop circles, stonehedge, the pyramids, or any other alien phenomenon, that is alleged to be true. What IF those are actually clues that aliens have left behind for us. Haha, certainly wasn't helpful at all. :p
Not to say that it's impossible for other life-bearing planets to exist, mind you, but the chances are probably a little on the low-side, unforunately.
I wonder when we will find life on other planets, much less "intelligent" life, and if we'd ever be able to communicate with them. The current laws of physics (ahaha, as if they'll change) kinda forbid practical communication with other star systems, since even at the speed of light, it'd take years for any sort of correspondence to occur. But /shrug, who knows. Maybe we'll be able to utilize wormholes and such someday and use them, if they turn out to indeed be useable.
Speaking of which, you know that little package that NASA sent out some years back that in an attempt to contact alien life? You know, with the music, the "map" to Earth, a drawing of a man and a woman, and all that? Even IF alien lifeforms come across that or if it's even still in existence, what with everything that happens in the cosmos, would it even help?
Take, for example, crop circles, stonehedge, the pyramids, or any other alien phenomenon, that is alleged to be true. What IF those are actually clues that aliens have left behind for us. Haha, certainly wasn't helpful at all. :p
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As aforementioned, Earth was a fluke. It just happened to have all the requirements to sustain life (or what we may think life is.. hah, wrap your minds around that). But over a long unimaginable length of time, there has bound to be other flukes.
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no, life on Earth isn't a fluke
it was meant to be
(xxxHolic comes into mind... i'd probably end up being philosophical again... gotta stop)
the universe can be studied because everything follows a pattern
if everything was to happen randomly, then science would not have even existed at all
there is a reason, a cause for everything
nothing is random
so life on Earth isn't a fluke
it was simply inevitable... due to the circumstances
it was meant to be
(xxxHolic comes into mind... i'd probably end up being philosophical again... gotta stop)
the universe can be studied because everything follows a pattern
if everything was to happen randomly, then science would not have even existed at all
there is a reason, a cause for everything
nothing is random
so life on Earth isn't a fluke
it was simply inevitable... due to the circumstances
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... Science is all about probability and chance and even luck... the easiest thign to happen usualyl happesn X% of the time (such as atom isotopes) and Earth is just like that. So far out all planets discovered, Earth is the only one to have had any sort of provable life-sustaining atmoshpere. Theres even speculation that after earth was live-able, a meteor bringing a few fragments of organic material fell into the atmoshpere and thats how life began.
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There are different sort of theories from scientific to religious that we can't cover everything to take one sides opinion
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Lieron wrote...
... Science is all about probability and chance and even luck... the easiest thign to happen usualyl happesn X% of the time (such as atom isotopes) and Earth is just like that. So far out all planets discovered, Earth is the only one to have had any sort of provable life-sustaining atmoshpere. Theres even speculation that after earth was live-able, a meteor bringing a few fragments of organic material fell into the atmoshpere and thats how life began.science isn't about chance
something being random is simply something that is unexplained or unknown
science explains how that seemingly random things happen, studying all the factors and organizing all the facts to form a conclusion
...ugh
i'm starting to confuse myself...
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Again, science is all about chance and the X% probability of something happening... nothign in science is definite
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I'd say Lieron is pretty much right on this one. Science explains what every probably outcome is and why they all could happen and how they all could happen and usually to what ratio they happen in nature but if you take two identical experiments all you can really say is "These two things will probably do almost exactly the same thing" and not be entirely sure about it.
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blind_assassin wrote...
People that think life doesn't exist anywhere else in the universe are retards. Not to say that I think little green/grey (aliens are always called little green men but the archetypal big headed alien is always grey for some reason) men pick up people out of cornfields every other week but the idea that humans are the only truly intelligent life in the universe is rather sad and terribly illogical. We have a pretty accurate idea of how huge the universe is and though we may not contact anything superior or equal to us in our lifetimes I sincerely believe that we will eventually.Since the discovery of Earth-2 (nickname coined by the news I have no clue of its actual name) found so close to us have increased the chances of their being intelligent life in the galaxy not the universe to 1% and many anyalst that number may grow higher...while that dosen't sound like alot...it is. There is no real doubt of intelligent life out besides us...just whevther or not mankind will ever see it.
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"random" happens when there are factors unknown
a dice for example, each number would have an equal 1/6 chance to come up
but if we were to take a number of factors to consideration, like how the dice was thrown, it's orientation before it was thrown, the distance of the dice to the center of the Earth, the temperature, density and pressure of the air in which the dice would travel through, the material where the dice would land, even the gravitational pull exerted by the moon, sun and other heavenly bodies, and so on... we would be able to predict exactly what number would be shown on the dice; the random factor is nullified...
although in practice, it's impossible to acquire such great amount of data in an instant...
well, in that sense, life on Earth is not a fluke, it was inevitable
Since the discovery of Earth-2 (nickname coined by the news I have no clue of its actual name) found so close to us have increased the chances of their being intelligent life in the galaxy not the universe to 1% and many anyalst that number may grow higher...while that dosen't sound like alot...it is. There is no real doubt of intelligent life out besides us...just whevther or not mankind will ever see it.
humans are the most adaptable living things on Earth because they could do away with any compromise, such as being unable to fly, by using their brains, front-looking eyes, dexterous hands and their convenient ability to communicate with its own kind, to come up with an airplane design instead of waiting for hundred thousand years to grow wings and have hollow bones
so eventually, with the help of the trial and error method called Survival of the Fittest by Mother Nature, life on another planet could be more than just "life" and be more like "intelligent life"
...that or extremely fast metabolism
(i'm thinking of Starcraft right now...)
i could say that there is a good 25% chance for life to exist on another planetary system, and as long as there is at least 10 billion years for that life-containing planet to sustain life, it might just bear intelligent life...
a dice for example, each number would have an equal 1/6 chance to come up
but if we were to take a number of factors to consideration, like how the dice was thrown, it's orientation before it was thrown, the distance of the dice to the center of the Earth, the temperature, density and pressure of the air in which the dice would travel through, the material where the dice would land, even the gravitational pull exerted by the moon, sun and other heavenly bodies, and so on... we would be able to predict exactly what number would be shown on the dice; the random factor is nullified...
although in practice, it's impossible to acquire such great amount of data in an instant...
well, in that sense, life on Earth is not a fluke, it was inevitable
Sub-Genuis wrote...
Since the discovery of Earth-2 (nickname coined by the news I have no clue of its actual name) found so close to us have increased the chances of their being intelligent life in the galaxy not the universe to 1% and many anyalst that number may grow higher...while that dosen't sound like alot...it is. There is no real doubt of intelligent life out besides us...just whevther or not mankind will ever see it.
humans are the most adaptable living things on Earth because they could do away with any compromise, such as being unable to fly, by using their brains, front-looking eyes, dexterous hands and their convenient ability to communicate with its own kind, to come up with an airplane design instead of waiting for hundred thousand years to grow wings and have hollow bones
so eventually, with the help of the trial and error method called Survival of the Fittest by Mother Nature, life on another planet could be more than just "life" and be more like "intelligent life"
...that or extremely fast metabolism
(i'm thinking of Starcraft right now...)
i could say that there is a good 25% chance for life to exist on another planetary system, and as long as there is at least 10 billion years for that life-containing planet to sustain life, it might just bear intelligent life...
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(In science, nothing is "inevitable")
The point is that you cant know all that, so it IS random chance,.. I mean you can define all cvariables but you can never define all of them (because they're variables).
Humans arent the most adaptable.. in a nature sense. Our brains enable us to chagne the surroundings for us, not s for the surroundings. Most adaptable would be able to say switch from water to land or w/e when you absolutely need to.
The point is that you cant know all that, so it IS random chance,.. I mean you can define all cvariables but you can never define all of them (because they're variables).
Humans arent the most adaptable.. in a nature sense. Our brains enable us to chagne the surroundings for us, not s for the surroundings. Most adaptable would be able to say switch from water to land or w/e when you absolutely need to.